Daughter and son in law vaping around baby

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In the same rooms. No windows open.
Heavy vapers and grandchild is coughing a little but more recently I’m noticing she has a hoarse voice.
They won’t believe it’s the vape.
Think she has picked something up from nursery.
Concerned but they won’t listen.

I can imagine it’s also really hard to quit! Anyone I know that vapes tends to hardly ever be without a vape in their hands, and I imagine many vapers also do it inside and in the car etc. Along with it being so much cheaper. It used to be only people giving up smoking that vaped, now it’s people that never smoker taking it up. Especially teenagers. (As a mother of teens this is a huge concern of mine. It is so much easier to hide than smoking was back in my youth!) it’s really good of you to do everything you can to try and get them to take this seriously. Is there any support / services you can help them to find for the worries and stress they are under?

They won’t.

i plan on speaking to my daughter again and if I don’t see any changes I will report.
i know I will have done the right thing then.

Yes - you are trying to protect a child here so it’s the right thing to do

Thank you!

When out I’m noticing people with vape in one hand, mobile in the other!
Like magnets!

I do have other adult children and they don’t vape seeing what daughter does. They can’t understand it.

They have spoken to her aswell but instead of firmly speaking I think a gentler approach is needed due do their worries.

That’s it. I can report anonymously!

Quite a lot of the time they are really good to chat to but other times rather defensive etc. argumentative if things happening.

They do have a lot of support from our family.

Which I know whey appreciate.

Yes, have another chat with them. Show them articles. Convince them to bring up the question of 'to vape or not to vape near baby' with their doctor at the next visit.

Compliment them on their parenting and admire how well they are doing but also say that you are worried that they have been given the wrong information about vaping.

Would it help to print off some evidence and take it round? They’re clearly massively in denial. You telling them is unlikely to be effective, but published data might help.

I have shown them printed info before but to no avail though I am noticing some of their friends are reducing their vaping and quitting.

That will have a big influence I hope!

They would then screenshot me info to ‘prove’ I was wrong.

Quite immature in that respect and in complete denial.

But recently Dad did say he knows vaping isn’t good for him …

I think in time they will stop.

But of course that is up to them.
Only so much we can do

They shouldn’t vape around children, but going to nursery will mean they are in a germ filled environment.

That's what I don't understand. Why you wouldn't just go outside and vape. I'm a heavy smoker and I've never smoked in the same room as my son. Going outside is what most smokers do anyway

Vaping around the baby is really so grim and I understand your concern OP.
looking at some evidence:

https://www.nhs.uk/better-health/quit-smoking/ready-to-quit-smoking/vaping-to-quit-smoking/vaping-myths-and-the-facts/

there is no evidence so far that vaping is harmful to people around you, and any risks are likely to be very low.

and

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2024/jul/second-hand-vaping-exposure-very-low-compared-second-hand-smoking

This paper suggests that concerns about second-hand vaping may be somewhat overstated, with second-hand exposure to toxic substances likely to be very low.

The second link clearly explains that the baby will be exposed to nicotine, and that vaping is not completely risk free. parents are being very selfish but I guess knowledge is power and given they are refusing to stop the evidence might give you some reassurance. They may have read that there are no risks at all, and think you are being over the top about it.

What ???? Such a strange comment

They have asthma and they vape? Are they generally stupid?

You can tell them to try opening doors/windows, not in the same room as the baby, out the window/on the balcony /gardening just for a while to see if the baby’s condition improves. Just say that even if it’s a bug, breathing in extra stuff won’t help, just like pollen, dust, car fumes etc. Hopefully they’ll give it a go if framed that way .

Disgusting.

Make sure to tell them to inform the GP they both Vape excessively in front of the child.

If they refuse to tell the GP, they know its wrong. If they tell the GP, then the GP will reinforce its wrong.

They refuse to tell Gp and health visitor that they vape.
When health visitor last came around for baby’s health check of course they knew what time she was coming so house was cleaned from top to bottom and vapes were put away.
Both relieved when she went ‘that there weren’t any concerns’

They have cut contact before due to them not liking what I said about vaping so I will tread carefully,
They got offended!
They are 100% convinced it’s not doing baby any harm.
Deluded! The pair of them!
Think I’d haveto wait for the day when one of them suddenly starts vomitting blood or something…a wake up call …shame it should come to that but what do I know?!

The problem is people who do this are very selfish and will insist there's nothing wrong in it. My stepkids mum smoked during her 2 pregnancies and my oldest stepson had serious phnuemonia as a baby