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Why do families who are poor, have pets

389 replies

hostleg · 06/08/2025 12:58

They are expensive to feed, look after and to recover from illness and injuries.

Hear people who have a dog who swallowed something they shouldn’t have - £900 at vets. I’m sure these poor families don’t have £900.

OP posts:
Pregnancyquestion · 06/08/2025 14:35

Paganpentacle · 06/08/2025 14:33

Errrrm .... yes?
Because feeding your child is pretty fundamental, so if you cant even do that...🙄

Eugenics?

Notsandwiches · 06/08/2025 14:36

Why do they eat crap, smoke, drink, have TVs, TV packages and internet. Because they want some joy and normality in their lives?

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 06/08/2025 14:37

It would be good if vet costs could be regulated by the government though. They are ridiculously high - like American medical costs. Insurance companies are also rather devious with exclusions.

Paganpentacle · 06/08/2025 14:37

Pregnancyquestion · 06/08/2025 14:35

Eugenics?

What's your suggestion?
Have a baby and starve it?
Or... have a baby and expect someone else to pay?

Saladbar · 06/08/2025 14:38

You do realise pets live a long time and most people weren’t in such poverty when they got them? My mum is now barely surviving and was doing fine prior to 2020. The cost of living has gone up a shocking amount and it’s insanely privileged to not acknowledge that. Should she abandon her dog that is elderly with medical needs?

waitingforpost · 06/08/2025 14:38

@Name4generalposts I think you have the same misconceptions about better earners that you are confusing them of!

I buy own brand food, had lessons from family, car is 2nd hand. Buy 2nd hand clothes etc, I am not unusual...

SingingintheWind · 06/08/2025 14:39

People who make poor life choices due to mental health, upbringing etc will also make poor life choices when it comes to animals, they won't see why it's a bad choice, and just keep repeating it

Saladbar · 06/08/2025 14:39

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 06/08/2025 14:37

It would be good if vet costs could be regulated by the government though. They are ridiculously high - like American medical costs. Insurance companies are also rather devious with exclusions.

Having lived in the U.S. I wish this was true, vet bills are high not not US med bill high! But they are shocking and should be better regulated.

TesChique · 06/08/2025 14:40

WHY ARE POOR PEOPLE ENJOYING THINGS GRRRR

Pregnancyquestion · 06/08/2025 14:40

Paganpentacle · 06/08/2025 14:37

What's your suggestion?
Have a baby and starve it?
Or... have a baby and expect someone else to pay?

there’s a difference between absolute and relative poverty. We have child benefits etc. So yeah it’s all a bit eugenics when we start talking about whether poor people should be having children or not

Absentmindedsmile · 06/08/2025 14:41

I put pets in the same box as religion to answer this question!

Both give comfort, happiness and hope. Both cost money.

Only one is tangible. And it’s not GOD.

ohsososo · 06/08/2025 14:41

littlemisstrytoohard · 06/08/2025 13:04

Because pets are absolutely lovely. They’re good for mood lifting, keeping kids busy etc….
There could be some financial help for the families genuinely struggling…..
Pets should be available to all, not just the privileged

Good, shelter, education and technology to actually be able to function are all necessary.
pets but so much.

pets are amazing. I love animals. But they are a privilege and if someone can’t afford a pet they shouldn’t get one.

after all if they can’t afford it, something else is going to have to give. Food? Heating? What exactly?

youreactinglikeafunmum · 06/08/2025 14:43

littlemisstrytoohard · 06/08/2025 13:04

Because pets are absolutely lovely. They’re good for mood lifting, keeping kids busy etc….
There could be some financial help for the families genuinely struggling…..
Pets should be available to all, not just the privileged

Couldn't agree more

I'm not well off but bought dd a kitten for company during the summer holidays and few years ago

Dcat completes our family

And there are charitable animal hospitals that provide support for the first pet of less well off families

That said, I wouldnt go and get loads of pets, which I wouldnt be able to afford x

Paganpentacle · 06/08/2025 14:44

Pregnancyquestion · 06/08/2025 14:40

there’s a difference between absolute and relative poverty. We have child benefits etc. So yeah it’s all a bit eugenics when we start talking about whether poor people should be having children or not

No it absolutely is not.
I see the effect of poverty on babies and children due to my work. Crap diet, health issues, poor educational outcomes, failure to thrive....
Its utter selfishness.
Nobody is entitled to have a baby they cannot feed /clothe or provide for.

waitingforpost · 06/08/2025 14:46

We have child benefits etc. So yeah it’s all a bit eugenics when we start talking about whether poor people should be having children or not

child benefit is not enough to raise a child on...

jannier · 06/08/2025 14:46

Oreosareawful · 06/08/2025 13:07

I'm sorry, but I disagree. Pets are a privilege, not a right.

Pets are a lifelong responsibility, and part of that responsibility is to ensure you can pay for their food, vets bills, emergencies etc. If you do not have insurance, you need to ensure you have the capital for a large unexpected expense.

Animals should not suffer because they are owned by people less well off.

I guess you feel the same about children, don't ever have one incase you get sick can't work, you become unemployable, COVID takes your job away, AI replaces your industry etc.

Augustus40 · 06/08/2025 14:49

I have often wondered eg why benefit claimants have pets. I guess it is to while away the boredom of enduring too much time on their own at home.

Though why grown adults have guinea pigs and the like is ridiculous but as long as they are looked after properly each to their own. Though for the benefit of children is perfectly understandable.

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 06/08/2025 14:50

CriticalOverthinking · 06/08/2025 14:29

Having kids is a want also, are we saying poor people shouldn’t have children because they can’t afford to feed and care for them or don’t have time.

That is a very good question. I think the right to a family life in a society that can (just about) afford to support those who can’t afford to provide for a child is acceptable. My opinion is that this should be for a maximum of one child to limit the cost to tax payers whilst not making being a parent the preserve of the rich - I am aware that some would argue that two…three…four children should be supported but I don’t! Owing a pet is different on many levels. The biological and societal need isn’t there, it is definitely a want. Considering whether you have enough time to look after children should be considered by rich and poor. You don’t have to have children and you don’t have to have pets.

neverbeenskiing · 06/08/2025 14:51

My work regularly brings me into contact with people who keep getting pets, despite relying on help from social services, food banks and their children's schools to provide the basics for their children. I'm not talking about people who have unexpectedly fallen on hard times. I'm talking about families who have always been skint and will ask me for a Food Bank voucher or tell me they have no money to put credit on their electric and then, in the same breath, mention they're off to pick up a new puppy when they've already got multiple pets at home.

Why do they do it? Humans are complex, so the reasons will be many and varied. Yes, in an ideal world everyone would be financially responsible but it's not quite as straightforward as some on this thread make out.

It is fair to say that some of the families I work with simply don't think about the financial implications of their decisions, about pets or anything else. They've never learned how to budget, they've been in debt their whole adult lives, always robbing Peter to pay Paul. But they've never known any different and everyone around them is the same way, so to them that's just 'normal' life. There's often a level of denial about how far up shit creek they actually are, or blind optimism that "something will turn up", which is probably a necessary coping mechanism when you spend your whole life lurching from one financial crisis to the next.

But some of the parents I work with don't have the capacity to make financially prudent decisions through absolutely no fault of their own because of cognition and learning difficulties or Mental Health issues, or both. They often have little in the way of support and are socially isolated, so their longing for the love and companionship of animals is understandable, although in some cases they are not equipped to care for them properly.

This is purely anecdotal, but over the years I've noticed that the women I've worked with who keep having more babies despite struggling to cope (not just financially but emotionally and practically) often do the same with pets. The thing these women have in common is trauma. Not just a single traumatic event but years and years of trauma, often going back to their own childhoods. They have often experienced DA from multiple partners. I think it's something about trying to fill a void, feeling chronically empty.

I think its easy to say people who are living in poverty just need to make better choices, but that's a massive oversimplification of complex issues that in some cases have been entrenched for generations.

Notoloasy · 06/08/2025 14:51

Get over yourself!

Branleuse · 06/08/2025 14:52

I just like them! Doesn't feel like a home without pets. I'd sooner get rid of the husband and kids! They're expensive too

Foundress · 06/08/2025 14:54

Womblingmerrily · 06/08/2025 13:17

Because people make bad decisions and in our society we buffer the consequences of those bad decisions, leading them to make further bad decisions.

Yep agreed that’s it in a nutshell really.

XenoBitch · 06/08/2025 14:54

Augustus40 · 06/08/2025 14:49

I have often wondered eg why benefit claimants have pets. I guess it is to while away the boredom of enduring too much time on their own at home.

Though why grown adults have guinea pigs and the like is ridiculous but as long as they are looked after properly each to their own. Though for the benefit of children is perfectly understandable.

Many people on benefits work. They can have pets. And I had my pet long before I was on benefits.
Like a PP said, if your pet is fed and cared for, then the next best thing you can give them is time. What is the point of having a dog who is at a doggy day care all day when you are work... just so you can have a few hours with them on the evening. I don't see the point in that at all.

And what is wrong with adults having guinea pigs? No pets are "for kids".

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 06/08/2025 14:55

Saladbar · 06/08/2025 14:39

Having lived in the U.S. I wish this was true, vet bills are high not not US med bill high! But they are shocking and should be better regulated.

Hopefully before it gets to that level then!

ScholesPanda · 06/08/2025 14:55

For the same reason richer people have them. Poor people aren't a different species, they like being happy and have aspirations and needs and wants to.
I'm happy to support charities like the PDSA who help poorer people care for their pets. Yes, some poor people are dickheads for whom the pet is just the latest fad (just like some rich people). However, a lot are decent people who are disabled or chronically sick or just don't have the skills our economy values so don't earn much.