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Aibu to have left the house to dine alone

22 replies

Windysummer · 04/08/2025 18:53

Long story but bare with me. For the past 3 weeks I have been hosting my in laws who are divorced first my mother-in-law for a week and now my FIL who is staying for 12 days. Although he is not sleeping at our flat but a local B&B he comes daily around 8.30 and leaves at about 21 when kids have gone to bed. He never goes out by himself for coffee/walk/to explore anything like that ever. Just sits on the sofa watching us or waiting for us to come up with a plan for the day. My DH has got a lot of trauma with his dad as his father is very particular and quite likely autistic however noone has ever pointed any of it to him. He lives by himself , doesnt have friends, only had one woman in his life who didnt really tell him how his ways can be a bit overwhelming for others and he is quite comfortable living this way as it allows him to follow his routines etc and not compromise with anyone. You can see how this becomes a problem when he comes.

He would successfully mask the first 2 days or so but then the frustrations from kids tantrums, mess etc would get to him and he would get more and more irritable. It causes my husband either to argue with him or simply to shut down in our bedroom in order to avoid confrontation.

I feel like I am constantly left to navigate any potential outbursts and mitigate these situations for the sake of my children. I am now exhausted after 10 days of doing exactly that. I do not think this is my job to plan out daily activities every single day (father in law is restless yet would not leave a house by himself without being sent to get something ) . I feel like I need to give people instructions every few minutes otherwise they just dont communicate at all. If my DH opens up a conversation with his dad about anything important in his life work/colleagues etc his dad just switched the conversatition to his safe topics like cricket or football or just suddenly asks me 'so what are we doing today?'

AIBU to thing I shouldnt be held hostage by their strained relationship? After hoovering the whole day today/cleaning/entertaining kids/cooking I also got this extra baby sitting. After once again being starred at and asked 'so what are we having for tea' whilst I was sorting the dishwasher out I just said ' not sure avout you two but I am going out for dinner by myself '. I ordered my children a pizza. I just have had enough of being a people pleaser for 10 days in a row. I am off on school holidays ( I am a TA) i am tired of being this perfect host and I havent even had a day to myself out alone.

OP posts:
Talltreesbythelake · 04/08/2025 18:59

Gosh, you need a medal for hospitality. I'm glad you went out for a meal by yourself. Can you make this the last time he visits for longer than 3 nights?

Jojimoji · 04/08/2025 19:00

YANBU

Your DH needs to step up and sort out his relationship with his dad.

dilema2024 · 04/08/2025 19:02

I hope you have something delicious and savour the peace

Soonenough · 04/08/2025 19:03

Definitely throw this back onto your DH . His father , his problem. And dont feel the need to entertain FIL let him just sit there. Ignore and get on with your day .
Hope you went somewhere nice and had a glass of vino. L

doitwithlove · 04/08/2025 19:06

Tell the inlaws you are away at the time they want to visit

murasaki · 04/08/2025 19:10

I hope you are enjoying your dinner. And that the kids make a mess and your H has to deal with it.

Nat4819 · 04/08/2025 19:11

Sorry I accidentally voted for you are being unreasonable but I meant to vote that you are not!! You have been a saint managing to put up with this all so far, enjoy your night out alone!

CaptainFuture · 04/08/2025 19:11

Enjoy your solo, satisfying dinner @Windysummer ! I raise a glass to you!

Windysummer · 04/08/2025 19:24

Just to clarify DH does everything but it gets super suffocating for him when his dad comes. I can see he is struggling mentally with him and it brings a lot of past memories of growing up with him and being forced to follow all these weird routines. When he tries to communicate with his dad or offer something to do even if its to watch something together so I can have a moment to myself he always gets ' no thank you'. Then DH just leaves to our bedroom. To be honest I dont blame him as it is tough. The toughest part is that FIL cannot give us any privacy he knocks on the doors, hums, asks silly questions for example can come into our room suddenly and ask ' which comfort do you use'. When we sit down to eat FIL finishes first (he eats very fast) then stands up (we normally are not even half way through our food ) and starts cleaning up and asking us where all the dirty plates go. I have to be careful not to choke. Its exhausting. The only thing that gets him out is kids getting ready to go to bed as he cannot deal with all the chaos and leaves. As I said he struggles with undiagnosed autism and cannot cope with other peoples dynamics well as he lives by himself. I am really exhasted at this point. We dont want to hurt his feelings so often just avoid any tricky moments by taking one of the kids out/serving snacks/ quickly getting everyone outside for some activity basically its additional childcare for me !

OP posts:
B0D · 04/08/2025 19:33

Can I ask why he visits for so long?

Windysummer · 04/08/2025 19:40

B0D · 04/08/2025 19:33

Can I ask why he visits for so long?

He lives about 4 hours away by train now but we lived in Europe for a long time so he had to fly and it was expensive if only for 3 days so he used to come for 2 weeks twice a year. I guess it became one of his habits. However, the past 3 Christmas visits have been the hardest as either one of the kids or myself or DH were sick and he would come anyway just to sit in the house when we were miserable! We need to prepare him that it can only be 6/7 days this year as we are just not in the mood to host it . Once we had to lie that we were going away for 5 days. FIL struggles with social clues a lot. I guess I feel sorry for him living his lonely life and kids love seeing him so I do it for them but ultimately it doesnt do me nor DH any good.

OP posts:
Enrichetta · 04/08/2025 19:42

B0D · 04/08/2025 19:33

Can I ask why he visits for so long?

And how frequent are his visits.

why did your MIL and FIL visit back to back? Would it be easier and feasible to spread them out?

FWIW, he is very unlikely to change his ways, so all you can reasonably do is adjust how you respond. Maybe find ways of ‘having to be somewhere/do something with the kids’ for a few hours most days?

And/or reduce the frequency and/or length of his visits.

HeyWiggle · 04/08/2025 19:49

start meeting midway for the day or one night.

Needlenardlenoo · 04/08/2025 22:05

The meals thing sounds very annoying.

What would happen if you said very bluntly: "FIL: we are still eating. Take your plate to the kitchen if you like but we do not need anything else doing. Go and watch TV." ?

Regarding the "what are we doing today?" maybe a now and next board?

I mean, you're a TA and as you say, you've got some childish behaviour occurring here, so try the kind of strategies you might use at school?

Although I think going out for dinner was a great idea!

Needlenardlenoo · 04/08/2025 22:21

One more suggestion which is going to sound mad but bear with me: sometimes very difficult people are more bearable with an additional person there to 'dilute' them. If you've only got a couple of days to go, invite your most easy going friend over...

notevencharging · 04/08/2025 22:28

You’re a saint for letting him visit for so long, having dinner on your own is the least you deserve.
A weekend would be the maximum I’d tolerate.

healthybychristmas · 04/08/2025 23:21

It's ridiculous that they are both using up all your holiday like that. I'm so sorry for you both. I would tell him you were going away over Christmas. In fact I think you deserve a holiday away because this summer has been ruined.

Tiredjusttired · 05/08/2025 08:35

How old is FIL? You say undiagnosed autism, but I see lots of early dementia traits, particularly the glued to your side and continual questions about ‘plans’.

rainbowstardrops · 05/08/2025 08:48

Fuck that! Why on earth are you having back to back visits with MIL and why are you entertaining 12 days?!
My DC was at university four/five hours away by train and we went for the weekend every now and then. It’s not that far!
I think you need to start being a bit firmer all round with him. How often does he visit?

Soonenough · 05/08/2025 10:48

Definitely throw this back onto your DH . His father , his problem. And dont feel the need to entertain FIL let him just sit there. Ignore and get on with your day .
Hope you went somewhere nice and had a glass of vino.

Laiste · 05/08/2025 10:55

It's too long.

No ones enjoying the visit by the sound of it so why not put a stop to such a loooong bloomin visit??

I know it's hard to break habits with older relatives - but a 4 hour journey does not require 2 weeks to get over!

Theres a million excuses you and your DH can construct to chop this visit down in future to about 5/6 days.

Laiste · 05/08/2025 10:56

I have to say - if this were me and DH was not open to shortening the visits in future i'd be staying away with the kids myself. Untill the last 3/4 days of the visit perhaps

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