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Am I unemployable?

30 replies

ConsultMe · 04/08/2025 13:56

I worked for my employer for several years and was promoted various times, and to a senior position. It has been the only employer I worked for during my 20s so it consists of the majority of my work experience.

My manager then sexually harassed me. When I complained about him, the company closed ranks and started contrived allegations against me - think petty yet untrue things being taken as serious misconduct. Simultaneously they didn’t do anything with my complaint against him. So ultimately I went off sick due to work related stress and feel I cannot return to that employer as they clearly are not treating me fairly and are constructively managing me out. I have explored the employment tribunal process and gone to ACAS/union etc. I have raised formal complaints etc but this employer is not taking me seriously and are in “protecting themselves” stonewalling mode.

Therefore I’m thinking about work with new employers, but then I am extremely worried about a reference. I believe the problematic employer will basically reference their contrived allegations against me and the fact I went off sick due to work related stress. Aibu to think I’m unemployable as a result? I can’t imagine what employer would want to hire someone being told that, and if I leave off that employer from my CV then I don’t have any job experience in the last 7 years.

OP posts:
PersephoneSeethes · 04/08/2025 19:33

ConsultMe · 04/08/2025 19:29

I am well aware of what a horrid situation I’m in. but what’s the practical steps to help me move on?

Your advice was “I'd change jobs quickly, I wouldn't go down the tribunal etc route, personally. What you need is a clean start, an employment tribunal, even you win, will give you pennies and it won't be worth the aggro. Go back to work, keep a low profile, and start job hunting now.”

how am I going to change jobs quickly, get a clean start, go back to work and successfully job hunt with the reference issue? That’s my biggest barrier.

Just brave it out. If you’re confident about it, you will be ok! I think you’re making more of the reference than you need to. Literally, if they check, all they can ask is if you worked there between so and so dates.

Vitrolinsanity · 04/08/2025 19:49

Most employers only expect a reference confirming dates of employment.

All employers are required to give a fair and accurate reference. Meaning your current employer can’t bad mouth you and expect not to have repercussions.

If you resigned, you can take your Employer down the tribunal route. You will need a union or solicitor to advise you.

You are not unemployable, you left an unreasonable employer. If asked at interview, you only need say you chose to leave for better prospects.

BoredZelda · 04/08/2025 20:09

Spirallingdownwards · 04/08/2025 15:15

Absolutely terrible advice. Are you her employer? She won't get pennies if she successfully pursues a sexual harassment claim as it falls within sexual discrimination especially where they are failing to take her complaint seriously and making false retaliatory claims.

Consult an employment lawyer ASAP and look for other work at the same time.

I’m an employer, I wouldn’t hesitate to hire OP with no reference in a situation like this, but like it or not, as women we do have to consider the personal consequences of taking action like this. The industry I work in is one of the largest in the U.K., but it is also impossible to bring an employer to tribunal without becoming known in the industry locally and finding the closed ranks go further than one company.

The last but one job I had was going to be a real opportunity for me to move up in my career, but after a while I just couldn’t stay any longer. The managing director was a bully, he treated staff appallingly, me included. I defended my team when he was having a go at them and spoke with his son (who was second in command with me) who appeared to be on my side (yeah, I know, I’m an idiot) and said I should speak with his dad about it. He “took my comments on board”, then ramped up his bullying. We had several staff leave and I did their exit interviews, all of them cited his behaviour as the reason. I filed these, as he had asked me to do, but a week later he called me in “for a chat” and had his side piece PA there “just for the record” and proceeded to tell me that all the staff had told him I was the bully, I was the reason they left, didn’t know how to do my job etc etc, and this was grounds for dismissal. Fair doos, I said, I’ll leave now, you can pay me my notice. I had very strong grounds for a tribunal, he knew that so be drew up his version of a mutual NDA where we both promised to never speak of any of it to anyone again and he paid me an extra month if I signed it. I was happy with that, it gave me a buffer to find a new job.

I went back to the agent who had placed me in the job and told him to find me another. The interviews came in thick and fast, verbal job offers made almost immediately but one by one, they all withdrew. When I spoke with the agent to find out what was going on, this guy had been bad mouthing me to his golfing buddies, the MDs of other companies. They had fed back to their directors who interviewed me and the jobs were gone. It really made it hard for me to get a job. In the end, I got a way better job than any of those had been, with a multi-national company who didn’t know this guy. My gloves came off and I was able to then trash this guy right back, which I did. I poached his staff and 3 of his clients, that meant more to me (and probably to him) than a protracted tribunal and any award that would have come from it.

I think it’s important that women stand up for themselves in these situations, these guys should not get away with what they do, and I’d love it if every single one of them was made to pay for what they did. Unfortunately, the way the world works is, it can be us who comes off worst for that. It is all too easy for these guys to spin a line that we are trouble. OP should do exactly what you said, and take legal advice, find out what her options are, but should also consider what the unintended consequences might be.

RentalWoesNotFun · 04/08/2025 20:11

It’s HR that give you a reference not your horrible boss and it will be bland and factual. It won’t mention any detail. Go apply for jobs and you’ll see. Dont hand in your notice until your new job gives you a start date in writing.

Anyahyacinth · 04/08/2025 20:17

If local union is being hopeless can you ask for assistance from their regional officer or similar...negotiating a way for you to leave notice paid, reference agreed is pretty standard union fare in my experience. I am REALLY sorry you are going through this 💐

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