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To be irritated at being asked to give my pronouns?

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purpledaze24 · 01/08/2025 09:34

I work in a very “progressive” organisation who are constantly trying to be sooo pc about everything 🙄
Almost daily I have meetings with colleagues, clients, and people from other organisations. At the beginning of EVERY meeting my manager asks everyone to go round and give their pronouns. It’s SO annoying! Every single person is always the pronoun they look like, my work also has nothing to do with supporting trans people or anything related, many of the people I’ve known for years, yet she still makes us do this every single meeting!! AIBU to be unbelievably irritated (and actually kind of offended) by this?

On a slightly different topic, I was at a friend’s barbecue recently and there was a young woman there who asked what my pronouns were. I answered she/her through gritted teeth and she said back “I’m he/him” (!) She was (what I assumed) was a slightly boyish lesbian. She didn’t appear to be making any attempt to look like a man. She even had long hair. She was just wearing “boyish” clothes (but stuff I’d wear sometimes). I thought how annoying it must be to go through life constantly having to “correct” people. Am I being overly judgmental by being annoyed by this? Like it feels like she’s just making a total mockery of gender and actually if I was a genuine trans man who desperately wanted to be recognised as he/him I’d feel like she was taking the absolute piss!

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notevencharging · 01/08/2025 15:30

Bloody hell I couldn’t even be arsed to join in with such nonsense. I think if put on the spot I’d say “call me what you like”

AnSolas · 01/08/2025 15:41

UpDo · 01/08/2025 13:02

I think perhaps the better way of putting it is that UK left wing pro trans people and organisations are more likely to try and claim their stance is the authentically left wing one. Whereas the right wingers who've done things like support self ID don't seem to explicitly locate it within right wing politics. So that makes a difference.

Equally, the GC right wingers in the UK often do very much want to claim it as a right wing stance. Which is a smart call, they can see that they benefit from importing the US cultural model on the issue. It obviously worked very well for the right over there.

The US Dems decided to go all out on a visual lie. Not just lie but force that lie into schools and school sports and other areas of private life.

Trump and Co would have been stupid not to see the own goal that created and why would they not go TWAM carries the mid to center left, the center, the whole of the right.
Their adopting it works well for "right-wing" policy which undermine womens rights because the "left-wing" women (mainly) who should be focused on womens rights policy are too busy trying to sell it as Mens or Peoples rights.

dudsville · 01/08/2025 15:42

When I was growing up I used to find it annoying that some forms required me to state my religion, and that "atheist" or "none" was under the heading "religious belief". I find the same with pronouns. I don't want to engage. I always read these threads though because I don't know what I would do if asked, and want to have a think about what others do. I've only been asked once "what are your pronouns", it was for data collection for research. I said I didn't have any. That's easy, but it was one to one. We're encouraged to put them in our email signatures, some do but not most. I haven't yet been in a meeting where I've been invited to, but I have introduced myself following from someone who stated pronouns by just stating my name and profession.

AnSolas · 01/08/2025 15:44

TheFifthTellytubby · 01/08/2025 13:34

I've noticed an increasing tendency recently on social media (and indeed this site!) to use "they" to refer to a singular entity in situations where the subject couldn't possibly be offended about being misgendered. For example when describing a DC who has already been referred to as "he/she" or even when talking about an animal ("it", surely, if the gender is unknown?) People are really getting tied up in knots about this and it has the potential to cause confusion - how many kids/missing cats are they (used correctly here to denote a non-specific, unidentified subject) talking about? 🙄

They/them is also a very specific insult in the English language.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 01/08/2025 15:46

It is a load of nonsense.
Who would have believed in the past that this would ever be a thing.

Yetanothernewname101 · 01/08/2025 15:48

crumpet · 01/08/2025 10:48

Professionally, I would not try to confront your manager in front of an audience (unless other avenues have been exhausted). Can you speak to them separately to ask why it’s needed especially when people already know each other. And also speak to HR if that gets nowhere.

It's probably so that some sort of tick box can be filled in on a quality mark application.

NoodleHorses · 01/08/2025 15:56

We had a new manager for our team. It was the first thing she asked after introducing herself, ‘hello I am Clara my pronouns are she/her’. She was awfully bouncy, immature, and annoying.
Most of us are post meno grumpy types who have little regard for this. We come to work to work and do a good job.
I said, at my turn, hello, I am Noodle, post menopausal woman whose pronouns are try/me.
Not as good as my colleague who said very similar but that her pronouns are eff/off.

My notice is in. I can’t be doing with it all. Especially a 24 year old manager who doesn’t know what we do.

SerendipityJane · 01/08/2025 16:26

When I was growing up I used to find it annoying that some forms required me to state my religion,

Required ?

GonnaeNoDaeThatJustGonnaeNo · 01/08/2025 16:28

I just say no thank you when asked.

dynamiccactus · 01/08/2025 17:44

I've never been asked in a meeting. I think our very active LGBTlettersoup group would like to but they just hold themselves back - I suspect they (a) know the law and (b) know that people would get aggravated.

However, we were told we kind of had to put them in our website bios so I clicked prefer not to say (which I actually objected to because I thought it made it sound like I had something to hide rather than "this is bollocks").

Someone has asked me about it but I said I was an obvious woman with a female name so it was blindingly obvious. This particular (male) colleague has a unisex name, so I said it made more sense for him to do it and he accepted that. Although we have our photos on the website so it's still blindingly obvious...

Yabberwok · 01/08/2025 17:46

Why not just reply with waste/time/crack on... nothing they can do if they so keen for you to give them.

BadKarma3467 · 01/08/2025 18:24

It's all a load of rubbish

Lucyccfc68 · 01/08/2025 18:33

I got asked once, at an all ‘female’ training event. I just responded with ‘call me Lucy’.

SerafinasGoose · 01/08/2025 21:59

‘That’s not a practice I follow’.

I’ve done the flat stare too. Or nowadays, taking inspiration from the excellent Naomi Cunningham: ‘No’.

A class example of that old MN maxim ‘No is a complete sentence’.

Whammyyammy · 01/08/2025 22:00

I don't have pronouns. Just say the same

Reliablesource · 01/08/2025 22:07

The one and only time I ever agreed with Ted Cruz was when he said his pronouns were: Kiss/My/Ass 😂

RobinEllacotStrike · 02/08/2025 08:09

The pronoun people are so annoying.

I’ve been watching a tv show called Strike. A female character- perfectly ordinary young woman seeking to make herself different/interesting/edgy - demands NB they/them pronouns & the rest of the characters drop “they” clunkers throughout.

it’s embarrassing for them all. I won’t watch 2nd series.

gender bollocks destroys all it touches.

SerendipityJane · 02/08/2025 09:38

Alternatively:

"Oh, I don't have any. Where can I buy them ?"

the TL;DR is any response - the more puerile the better - that could provoke the response

"But you're not taking this seriously"

Is the best. Get them to say it first.

In that vein ...

"Let me get back to you on that"

"On a first date ?"

"No thank you, I'm trying to give them up"

"That's terribly kind, but I've just eaten"

"I stopped doing that in 2003"

"I take my pronouns from an ancient Tibetan tradition. They can't be written and have no sound".

"Why don't you fuck off ?"

SophiaSW1 · 02/08/2025 09:55

I say to people that I’ve made it this far in life with no one ever getting it wrong by looking at me and my name so just give it your best guess!

EasternStandard · 02/08/2025 09:57

SophiaSW1 · 02/08/2025 09:55

I say to people that I’ve made it this far in life with no one ever getting it wrong by looking at me and my name so just give it your best guess!

Same here re making it this far

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