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Civil Service Fast Stream

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Jakolantern · 01/08/2025 07:02

Has anyone got any experience or advice about applying for this? My son has just graduated from a prestigious university and is going back to do a masters next year. He is planning to apply to the civil service fast stream in October and is very motivated and excited by this prospect. He is highly intelligent, with excellent grades and good work experience and is a hardworking, very likeable young man who is committed to the idea of using his life to provide public service. He is not motivated by money, he just wants to be of benefit of others, but he does need to earn enough money to live obviously. I know he would be an asset to the civil service but as a white, middle class man with a humanities degree I feel as though the odds are stacked against him before he even applies. I haven’t mentioned this to him, of course, and I am just a passive spectator to his life now really, but if there was any help or advice I could give him it would be much appreciated.

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TizerorFizz · 01/08/2025 13:02

@Jakolantern If you look at the very comprehensive data on recruitment to the fast track last year, you will see that 50% are already stem. It’s worth looking at these stats because it helps you get a handle on who gets recruited. It’s still 2.2% of applicants though! However loads of applicants have not just graduated and the scientists can get into very good jobs via other work. DDs friend went to Japan to work to learn Japanese and got into CS fast stream. It’s not just for 21/22 year olds.

titchy · 01/08/2025 13:40

OP also worth adding that the assessments for each stage of the FS application process are the same regardless of schme applied for (and you apply for up to 4).

Jakolantern · 01/08/2025 13:57

80smonster · 01/08/2025 09:24

Did your DS go to private school and a Russell Group uni?

Not private school, but RG uni.

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Jakolantern · 01/08/2025 13:58

MoveOverToTheSea · 01/08/2025 11:52

Like most graduate schemes…

You start applying in October 25 to start your job in September 26.
Thats not particular to CS.
I assume he’ll be applying to other graduate jobs anyway?

Yes, that’s the plan!

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Jakolantern · 01/08/2025 14:01

Roseblooms7 · 01/08/2025 09:26

Yeah must admit the lazy journo got me. I answered in good grace. Silly me!!

Don’t worry I’m not a journalist.

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Jakolantern · 01/08/2025 14:03

BoredZelda · 01/08/2025 11:35

Which is, of course, the point of the OP’s post.

It does make me laugh when people start to lament how “difficult” things may be for white middle class men.

@Jakolantern, don’t you worry, he’ll be able to be a do gooder, helping out those poor people if that’s what he really wants. How about he volunteers at a food bank in his spare time. Maybe then he will get some insight into how hard it is to not be a white middle class man and actually be the kind of person the Civil Service is trying to recruit.

He does volunteer at a food bank actually.

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Imicola · 01/08/2025 14:11

Jakolantern · 01/08/2025 11:49

The masters runs from September 25 to July 26. Applications open in October 25 and they are at least partially aimed at final year students so I guess the fast stream begins in September 26, but I don’t actually know that for sure.

Yes, our placements begin in October and there is a fairly long process in advance, including security vetting. So he'll be applying this year to join next year after the summer period.

Jakolantern · 01/08/2025 14:19

guestusername · 01/08/2025 08:47

What’s stopping him from applying for CS outside of fast stream?

Nothing.

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PearlStork · 01/08/2025 14:24

@Jakolantern what streams is he interested in?

TizerorFizz · 01/08/2025 17:21

@BoredZelda They want to recruit dc of people who frequent food banks? I think they really want to get up to the national figure of 25% of dc on fsm. They have 18% of applicants on fsm at the moment. Personally I don’t see why enacting government policy has much to do with fsm or food bank familiarity. It’s just virtue signalling.

Squarealarmclock · 01/08/2025 17:26

I finished the fast stream a year or so ago - it was mainly white middle class people, more than 50% men, so I dont think that'll hold him back!

Doraymefarsolateado · 01/08/2025 18:33

Jakolantern · 01/08/2025 12:21

I’m not what you think I am at all - and my son most certainly isn’t. I guess I was just a bit anxious this morning that’s all, sorry.

I do hope that’s the case and if you are an anxious parent then I do have empathy for you, although my sentiment is the same.

I am middle class (in adulthood) and my children go to private school. I have no worries for their future - they will find their place on their own merits and I do not pretend that there lives are disadvantaged. I despise the culture wars nonsense which is perpetuating damaging and divisive lies.

For what it’s worth I used to be a member of the senior civil servant and joined as a fast streamer and believe it be a very worthwhile career. Good luck to your son.

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