To donate to alleviate hunger in Gaza

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I’ve received many emails from organisation on this topic. The last one, today from Action against Hunger asking for donations for support to alleviate the suffering.

it seems to me that even if I donate, the remedies needed are political ones as it’s not lack of money that’s the problem.

I’m not trying to make this about Israel/Gaza (and I ask that people please don’t hijack this post). I’m genuinely asking if you think that money donated makes a difference as I’d like to help but am at a loss to know what to do.

YABU - the money donated does help
YANBU - sending money doesn’t solve the problem

Why do you think that undergoing genocide and persecution makes you nicer? Quite the opposite actually. And then when someone seeks your destruction and tries to act on it, you kinda take that seriously.

Never thought of it like that but that’s quite insightful actually. I couldn’t wrap my head around it before.

Honestly, I'm not sure why it's up to us average folk in the UK to fund this, even if the money did get where it'supposed to. Many folk here are struggling with the COL situation. There are lots of wealthy and more powerful people around the world.

And I agree with this also. Bet you Bezos could run this whole thing tomorrow with existing Amazon stock.

It’s true though.
What’s your issue?

It’s not true at all. Do you have evidence that if I give money to MSF today that it will be given straight to Hamas?

Nobody believes these lies anymore. Probably not even the people saying them. We can all see what is happening.

Israel and Hamas. The UN have said that most aid getting into Gaza is being highjacked by Hamas. it is both of them.

How much money did live aid raise? Where has that all gone? No i dont think ot will get there but it will make people feel better for doing something, it will fund the enemy thoough

Why not simply donate to a local, British charity which is helping people in your local community? For example, hospices (which are not the NHS) are absolutely struggling at the moment. Palliative and end-of-life care can be a 'cause', too.

Where has that all gone? Have you been asleep for the last 40 years. Do you honestly believe that a concert in the 1980’s should be funding all humanitarian aid forever?

I don’t know anything about this particular organisation but getting food and supplies into an area controlled by terrorist governments such as Hamas can involve paying special ‘taxes’. It’s naive to think that terrorists who loathe the secular west are just going to let the wealthy nations of the world walk in with supplies.

For Hamas, everything is about PR and perception and working toward their stated manifesto goals of a) religious jihad, b) elimination of Israel and c) no peaceful negotiation with Israel (ever). I do not believe they are overly interested in the welfare of people living in Gaza.

@bethathome the Israeli government control over 80% of Gaza now.

Did you really need to quote me and then also repost it in bold?

I was replying to two poster ideas so didn’t mean to quote you no

Maybe you just thought way post was so pertinant that it was worth repeating.......
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They certainly look to be hijacking much of the aid going into Gaza. 🤬

I don’t know anything about this particular organisation but getting food and supplies into an area controlled by terrorist governments such as Hamas can involve paying special ‘taxes’. It’s naive to think that terrorists who loathe the secular west are just going to let the wealthy nations of the world walk in with supplies

I am many things, but naive is not one of them. I have worked in humanitarian response for thirty years and seen things that not many others have.

Yes there will always be an amount of attrition when distributing goods. However UN and NGO agencies have specific systems in place to target and distribute aid in as transparent a way as possible. They have built this expertise over decades. The UN has supplies prepositioned and ready to distribute, but instead the Israeli government chose to distribute through the Gaza 'Humanitarian' Foundation (which has been disavowed by the entire actual humanitarian community). In black and white terms, it boils down to this: would you rather see children starve and civilians murdered whilst trying to access food, or accept that the possibility there may be some small scale diversion of aid to Hamas?

Yes that's what I thought and I'm fine with that though I do specifically want to help, if at all possible, the people in Gaza so I might start donating to one of the other organisations mentioned on here like save the children or msf.

The aid being delivered by the U.N. at the moment is being looted by both unarmed civilians who are starving and armed groups including Hamas and the other militant groups there some of who are being armed by Israel.

It’s a famine situation. It’s extremely difficult to deliver food aid, it’s like trying to deliver 100 dollar notes at the moment: the only answer is to open the food gates and ensure that more than enough food is delivered. This brings the value down. If Israel wanted to decrease looting this it would let more aid in.

The way Hamas has controlled and enriched itself through aid and, in fact, anythng coming into Gaza through "taxation" is well documented.
But the fact is that you can't leave 2 million people without supplies to prevent Hamas and other getting them.They will always get what they want as they are the ones with the guns. I believe that if you make food etc less expensive, then it's harder to enrich youself from diverting supplies.

There have been many many examples from history of authorities trying to prevent armed groups having access to civilian supplies and it's nearly always been a catastrophe for civlians and not actually worked to stop the armed groups getting their hands on what they want even at the deteriment of the civilians they are supposedly protecting. I'd be really interested to hear of even on example where this has actually worked.