Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To just want an apology?!

10 replies

LemurLederhosen · 28/07/2025 22:04

No one in my household apologises. No one. Ever. You know if you’re out and about and a child accidentally (or may even on purpose) pushes your child, the parent would most likely apologise and perhaps even make the child apologise as well, even if it was an accident.

I apologise all the time, if I forget something or break something or bump into someone in a shop, or turn up late, etc. - there are a load of reasons to apologise and I’m not afraid of doing it at all…

I feel like I’ve somehow failed at getting my kids to apologise. If my kids have an argument and one pushes the other for example I will tell them off - saying it’s not acceptable behaviour and they must apologise. But they never do or they do that thing where they eye roll and say “sorry!” in a sort of Kevin the teenager style. Thankfully when we’re out and about they tend not to get into scrapes with other kids - they are usually on the receiving end of stuff like that but at home there are arguments, wrestling, occasional pushing and shoving, usual sibling stuff, but most of the time accidents happen because they get carried away and/ or don’t realise their own strength. I tell them that even if it was an accident, if you hurt someone you must apologise. But they never do. I can stand there and say apologise please, over and over again, they just don’t do it.

Usually the culprit bursts into tears out of guilt for hurting their sibling or just because they think it’ll get them out of apologising, which to be fair it usually does.

It doesn’t help that my DP never apologises for anything ever either so they have most likely learned it from him but what I don’t understand is that I probably apologise as much as DP doesn’t apologise but why are they emulating his behaviour and not mine?!

Just this evening, I was sitting on the floor putting DS to bed, DD is on the top bunk and a book falls off and hits me on the head. It really hurt so I shouted “ow!”. It made me jump as well so I didn’t have time to temper my reaction - it just came out. Now, if that had been me I’d have immediately said “oh, I’m so sorry, are you OK?” But no. DD said nothing. She looked over the edge of the bed to see what had fallen off and then disappeared, without saying word. I said her name a few time and she didn't respond. I said, “are you there? Are you Ok?” And she replied “yes”. I said “you really ought to apologise for that, even though I know it was an accident, it still hurt so you should say sorry.” I got nothing back, just silence. I’m sure she is feeling bad about it so I made sure not to tell her off as I know it was an accident. I got up off the floor to check on her and she seemed to be pretending to be asleep… she is 9.

This is just one example. There are plenty more and I’m just wondering if apologising is in fact the correct reaction to things like that?! I’ve been a bit of a doormat my whole life, massive people pleaser, etc etc. so now I’m thinking maybe I missed the memo and people don’t say sorry anymore?!

I’m now feeling bad that I’ve picked on DD as the example here because actually out of all my kids she is the most empathetic and caring. Like I say, I’ve got countless examples of DS doing or saying things and I’ll say “that’s not nice/ kind, you need to apologise to X for what you said/ did” or my other DD (preteen) saying “I don’t care!’ for the millionth time and I tell her not to speak to me that way and to apologise, but she never does…

Same with DP, if we argue and he says something hurtful to me, even if I point out that it was hurtful, he doesn’t say sorry. I mean I’d prefer it if he didn’t say hurtful things tbf but if he does then I think, especially if I say, “that was a bit below the belt” or that was a hi hurtful” he should say sorry.

And then I don’t know what to do at that juncture… with a child you can start moving through the hierarchy of threats, no screen time until you apologise, etc etc. but with a grown adult, what have you got? Nothing! I normally feel shit for a few days, perhaps I don’t talk to him because I just can’t bring myself to after what he said or did, but then a week goes by and I think we can’t keep going like this, he’s not going to apologise so let’s just move on. Then I hate myself for not maintaining a boundary, etc. but figure what else is there to do? Leave?!

Please someone just tell me that apologising after you doing something wrong/ or hurtful, whether on purpose or not warrants an apology? In my opinion is shows emotional maturity and accountability?! I don’t see it as a sign of weakness or admission of guilt or whatever other reason people might have for not apologising, I see it as a sign of respect - that you accept that you’ve hurt or upset someone, whether intentional or not, and you are trying to make amends?

OP posts:
BigDayForTheWomen · 28/07/2025 22:28

I agree that apologising is appropriate when you've deliberately harmed someone, and in the UK it is polite to say 'sorry' even when you and the other person share responsibility, eg when two people are in a hurry and bump into each other, or when you're unsure what happened.
But I wonder whether your insistence on apologising is producing some resistance in your children - is that possible? And I wonder if you tell them about it again and again in a rather hopeless way which doesn't engage their attention; they don't seem to take any notice of you at all.
It might have been more effective to stand up at once and ask DD firmly to explain what happened when the book fell on you, and tell her to be more careful in future. Saying 'I know it was an accident' lets her off the hook at once.

DoneitagainhaventI · 28/07/2025 22:29

Sorry OP but I think your children are incredibly rude.
As is your DP.
I really dislike bad manners.

PBJSnackBar · 28/07/2025 22:54

Well if you don’t teach them and stick to your guns, no wonder they haven’t learned this lesson. I don’t care how old they are, if they have done something wrong then I will pick them up on it and follow it through.

Presumably you have brought them up to understand actions and consequences so just stick to that.

Tonight you made a fuss about the book but didn’t complete the scenario by saying “I am waiting for you to apologise and acknowledge what I have said”.

livelovelough24 · 28/07/2025 22:56

People should apologize when they cause hurt to others even if they did not do it on purpose, but especially if they did. My exh used to make fun of me for saying please and thank you "all the time", he too was like your husband, one of those people who did not, but I honestly enjoy being kind and well mannered. I think that unfortunately, the world is changing for worse and good manners, kindness and compassion are not valued any more, and are perceived by many, as weakness.

PollockMullet · 28/07/2025 23:00

BigDayForTheWomen · 28/07/2025 22:28

I agree that apologising is appropriate when you've deliberately harmed someone, and in the UK it is polite to say 'sorry' even when you and the other person share responsibility, eg when two people are in a hurry and bump into each other, or when you're unsure what happened.
But I wonder whether your insistence on apologising is producing some resistance in your children - is that possible? And I wonder if you tell them about it again and again in a rather hopeless way which doesn't engage their attention; they don't seem to take any notice of you at all.
It might have been more effective to stand up at once and ask DD firmly to explain what happened when the book fell on you, and tell her to be more careful in future. Saying 'I know it was an accident' lets her off the hook at once.

Agreed.

EternalLodga · 28/07/2025 23:02

Its really rude

CsTheDay · 28/07/2025 23:15

Agree with you OP.
How would they like it if you didn’t apologise? Shake it up by being less predictable, doing as they do or putting your foot down and determinedly insisting on an apology.

AuntMarch · 28/07/2025 23:18

Rather than "even if it was an accident", I actually think apologising for something you didn't mean is even more important, it shows that you didn't mean to cause them harm and anyway, wouldn't you actually feel more sorry that it happened if it wasn't intentional? Whereas forced apologies immediately after something that wasn't accidental I find quite meaningless.
I don't tell my son to apologise when he's rude, he strops off and sulks about whatever it is for a few minutes (or a lot of minutes) and then comes back and says it. then I know he's actually reflected and feels sorry.

It's a shame your husbands rudeness has rubbed off on the children, but at this point you can't just expect it to suddenly change, you need to address it and drive that change.

AbzMoz · 29/07/2025 01:39

They’re not learning or practicing appropriate responses to their behaviour. You say in the real / outside of home world they have avoided scrapes (and perhaps you are relieved by this). There’s a very real chance that as they get older someone will not be accepting that ‘they just don’t say sorry’ and they will end up in escalating situations as a result.

I am fascinated to know what sort of job your dp does where he never has to say sorry? Can he practice good manners to other people than you? If he knocked into someone out shopping, what would he say?

TBH the end of an argument is not that you’ve forgotten or let things slide. Do you revisit the conversation the next day when things are calmer? Does he listen and apologise then or accuse you of ‘nagging or going on’?

CatChant · 29/07/2025 17:15

I’ve hunted up this thread (read it last night and was then too tired to comment) because I do think refusing to ever apologise is going to be a big hindrance in your children’s lives if it continues.

You might know your DC are kind and empathetic at bottom, and the refusal is simply learnt from a poor role model, but everyone else they encounter: friends, teachers, acquaintances, boyfriends, girlfriends, employers and colleagues will not make the same allowances. They will think they are rude.

If they bump into someone, tread on someone’s toes, arrive slightly late, forget something they were meant to bring and a host of so many other trivial social infractions, and fail to say sorry, they are going to be judged for their behaviour.

This is not going to predispose people to like them, to give them the benefit of the doubt, to be friendly, to want to employ them. Some people are going to be actively hostile, even aggressive towards them.

It is doing your children a disservice to let this continue, and it is all so needless.

As for your DP, he really should be old enough to know better. His behaviour to you sounds unpleasant, he is setting a bad example to the DC and if he behaves as poorly outside the home then I imagine a lot of people think him what he is - a very rude man.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page