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I can’t manage within the parameters that my DP sets

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CuppaTeawithaCookie · 27/07/2025 17:10

DP and I have been together 12 years, with DS7 and DS1.5. Originally we worked together on our business, but DP wanted to leave and I didn’t, so for the last 3 years he has worked 9-5 Monday to Friday in a physically demanding job. I work for myself, with employees, with DS7 at school and DS1.5 at childcare one day a week, and occasional extra days from in-laws as and when.

These are the statements my DP has made at various times:
He doesn’t want other people looking after DS1.5 ( I had to bulldozer through one day a week).
We can’t have babysitters in for the evening, because he doesn’t trust other people (non-family) to look after our kids and also our house is too messy to let people in.

I shouldn’t leave DS1.5 in his playpen for too long (I understand this and try not too but it’s the only way I get stuff done).
I shouldn’t work weekends.
He won’t get up with the kids in the morning . He doesn’t sleep well so stays in bed until midday on the weekend to catch up on sleep (I get up around 5am every day).
He doesn’t do the school run, it’s not his thing. I do all the school runs or get help when needed.
He doesn’t take/collect DS7 to after-school clubs, also not his thing. Either I do it, organise lifts or DS misses out.
He doesn’t like taking the kids out on his own at the weekend, it makes him feel like a single dad. He has done it when he has no choice but I should be available for family days out.

He doesn’t do housework, he’s either too tired, it’s my mess or I’ve let the kids make a mess, it’s on me to sort out. If he does tidy, everything gets bundled into a bag/box/cupboard.
He does his own washing, nobody else’s.
He says he’s still involved in our business but that generally involves telling me what I and everyone should be doing. If I ask him to do something it’s met with a lot of grumbling.
I should also lose weight and take more care of myself - he spends an hour+ in the bath every night whilst I get the kids to bed and supervise the business. Unless I’m actively working, in which case he puts youngest to bed, has a bath and puts oldest to bed when he’s done.
I shouldn’t fall asleep before the business closes, even if he’s awake, because it’s my choice to be there. I do because I can’t help it, but it’s usually gone midnight when I go to bed properly.
If I complain that it’s impossible to do everything as he thinks it should be done, he says I should leave our business, which I said I would do when DS7 started school. But then at that time it didn’t seem possible to do so.
We have no savings or joint finances. The business covers most of our living costs, I pay for our kids costs. His wages go on CMS payments, debts and clothes for him. He will food shop because I’ve stoped doing it, but he spends ridiculous money doing so.
He says I’ve made no effort to put plans in place to leave but I’m too exhausted to function beyond my day to day existence.
Our business is losing money but any effort I make to correct that gets met with a huff that I’m making more work for myself and neglecting the family.

I get little to no emotional support and comments about our lack of sex life. All I want is to be asked how I am and given a cuddle but I’m usually pushed away. I keep everything in, including the death of pets (met with a Sorry text).
Our youngest absolutely adores him, and we still get on if I wait for the right time and ignore all the other stuff. I think he does try but so much blame is laid at my feet I don’t know how much is my fault (some but not all?).
Occasionally when we’ve really argued he says he’ll have the kids and that terrifies me. I can’t bear the thought of not waking up to them every day, and to be honest I don’t want to put him through that too.
But the parameters he sets out for me are impossible to meet. I don’t understand what he thinks our lives will look like away from the business.

AIBU to not be able to find a solution?
or YANBU, this situation is impossible?

OP posts:
ThatBusyPanda · 27/07/2025 22:53

This is one of the worst posts I’ve read, please please get out for yourself and your kids, this man is not contributing anything to your lives xxx

LimeDreamer · 27/07/2025 22:55

I am so sorry that you are experiencing this with your partner - it sounds like you are terribly lonely and not being supported in the way you deserve both in life and in work.
Can you talk to someone, properly?
I'm not a parent and I don't feel qualified to offer advice other than having a professional sounding board to help decide what you need from your life and relationship can only be of benefit with things as they are.
Look after yourself x

BookArt55 · 27/07/2025 23:00

Would you be happy if your child was on a relationship where they were being treated like this? Sounds like that would be a no. So, kindly, stop teaching them that this is okay.
This is the question that made me get out of my relationship. 18months on and my kids are happier, thriving... and so am I.
Speak to a professional, therapy is really important to work through what you've been through and build yiur confidence back up, but to also work on yourself so you don't accept this treatment again- you and your chimdren deserve better.
Get your ducks in a row- financial, evidence of being the main carer, housing, see a solicitor, and don't tell him anything. It doesn't have to happen in the next week, but set a goal and stick to it.
You deserve more, so do your kids, don't doubt that.

SixteenClovesOfGarlic · 27/07/2025 23:10

Who owns the property? With him being just a boyfriend/sperm provider, hopefully it's your property and you can have him removed.
Imagine the bliss of life rid of this man. Your kids learning misogyny is unacceptable.

CuppaTeawithaCookie · 27/07/2025 23:23

Thank you for all your messages. I have read every one whilst doing the evening jobs. I will read every one again before I comment. I really appreciate the time that you have all taken. Thank you,

OP posts:
NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 27/07/2025 23:24

So you pay for pretty much everything and you do everything, without help. All you get in return is controlling behaviour and complaints. I can’t see anything in this for you at all.

Piknik · 27/07/2025 23:44

What an utter wank-stain.

You have enabled this for far too long OP.

You do realise that most people would laugh in the faces of their partners if they told them that 'dropping kids at school wasn't their thing'. What if you decide it's not 'your thing'? What then?

He is a lazy, selfish prick, but the way you've written your OP would suggest that you have facilitated it.

MumWifeOther · 27/07/2025 23:47

Life would be easier and more pleasant on your own. Get rid.

Elmaas · 27/07/2025 23:47

Your poor children in a horrific abusive relationship.
Please get help and run.

menopausalfart · 27/07/2025 23:54

I don't understand what his role in the family is, apart from setting rules. I wouldn't last 5 minutes with this man.

CuppaTeawithaCookie · 27/07/2025 23:58

TeenToTwenties · 27/07/2025 17:13

Can you clarify how the business pays for your living costs but is also losing money? Does that mean you as owner pay yourself a wage that the business can't cover?

We live and work in the same building. Rent, electric, water all get paid by the business. We pay council tax. I get Universal Credit top-up. But you’re right, the business can’t really afford to cover all our living costs.

OP posts:
CuppaTeawithaCookie · 28/07/2025 00:03

MeAndMyGhost · 27/07/2025 17:15

This sounds awful. What does this man actually contribute to your lives?

It won't get better.

What do you want to do?

I want a family unit. I want some love and support.

My concern with leaving the business is that things won’t be any different away from it, and I’ll have given everything up.

By everything I mean, I set my own hours, I never miss any school event. I have a community around me, which helps with school pick ups when needed, and lots of bits and pieces which I really appreciate. And probably more too.

OP posts:
CuppaTeawithaCookie · 28/07/2025 00:04

Sorry, I’ve started responding to comments, but I should really go to bed. I’ll carry on in the morning x

OP posts:
PeachesandCream100 · 28/07/2025 00:30

So, best case scenario is he gets an attitude adjustment, grows up and takes his fair share of responsibility, yes?

I'd start there. Do you see any reasonable chance of that happening? For ex. was he ever fair and caring? Or would you say he's just cracked from the start and there's not much to work with there?

If there's hope, then I suggest trying marriage counseling before giving up. Sometimes they can work miracles.

If not, then maybe start by seeing a therapist or divorce attorney or both, by yourself, and be careful what you share with him.

If you're going to leave, better to get it all set up well before acting.

Best wishes.

99bottlesofkombucha · 28/07/2025 00:45

CuppaTeawithaCookie · 28/07/2025 00:03

I want a family unit. I want some love and support.

My concern with leaving the business is that things won’t be any different away from it, and I’ll have given everything up.

By everything I mean, I set my own hours, I never miss any school event. I have a community around me, which helps with school pick ups when needed, and lots of bits and pieces which I really appreciate. And probably more too.

to be blunt, If wishes were horses beggars would ride. You want love and support. You won’t ever get them from this lazy pathetic controlling and possibly abusive excuse for a partner and dad and no amount of wanting will change that. You might however get them from someone else if you were free of him. Split, tell him you’re helping him as now he can take his kids out like other dads do but he could only do if he were a single dad, so now he’s single! And can parent! or just disappear from their lives like a deadbeat dad.

the business sounds useful re flex etc, but let’s be clear headed about it. Without him, plus any benefits and child support, can you keep things going? Can it ever make more? What is holding you back from it? If you can survive with the business and without him, I’d dump him and see how much more energy and enthusiasm you have without the dead weight telling you you aren’t good enough every day, and look at the business’ future again then. But if you just can’t get by, then need to think more immediately about other options. And maybe the strategic thing is to get a job and then leave him.

SnowFrogJelly · 28/07/2025 01:02

LTB

Spooky2000 · 28/07/2025 01:16

I barely got through your post without feeling pissed off and suffocated and unsupported myself. Leave the fuckwit, get a nanny, take the business as part of the settlement and enjoy the rest of your life without a 3rd child (your 'DP' 😐)

Honestly, life will eventually be so much happier and easier without him and his demands and with the courts ordained times for him to have your lovely boys.

GripGetter · 28/07/2025 01:19

Parameters? And he gets to set them? Why? Why are you even with this waste of space?

sparkleghost · 28/07/2025 02:17

I think you’re considering leaving the wrong thing. You need to leave the man, not the business. (Bit of a stretch calling him DP considering how poorly he treats you!)

Billybagpuss · 28/07/2025 04:54

How much legal control does he have over the business? Are you 50/50. If you leave him will he still have a controlling say in your business. If so best to get it gone. Either go fully employed or relaunch when you’re ready to on your own.

MeTooOverHere · 28/07/2025 05:00

CuppaTeawithaCookie · 27/07/2025 17:10

DP and I have been together 12 years, with DS7 and DS1.5. Originally we worked together on our business, but DP wanted to leave and I didn’t, so for the last 3 years he has worked 9-5 Monday to Friday in a physically demanding job. I work for myself, with employees, with DS7 at school and DS1.5 at childcare one day a week, and occasional extra days from in-laws as and when.

These are the statements my DP has made at various times:
He doesn’t want other people looking after DS1.5 ( I had to bulldozer through one day a week).
We can’t have babysitters in for the evening, because he doesn’t trust other people (non-family) to look after our kids and also our house is too messy to let people in.

I shouldn’t leave DS1.5 in his playpen for too long (I understand this and try not too but it’s the only way I get stuff done).
I shouldn’t work weekends.
He won’t get up with the kids in the morning . He doesn’t sleep well so stays in bed until midday on the weekend to catch up on sleep (I get up around 5am every day).
He doesn’t do the school run, it’s not his thing. I do all the school runs or get help when needed.
He doesn’t take/collect DS7 to after-school clubs, also not his thing. Either I do it, organise lifts or DS misses out.
He doesn’t like taking the kids out on his own at the weekend, it makes him feel like a single dad. He has done it when he has no choice but I should be available for family days out.

He doesn’t do housework, he’s either too tired, it’s my mess or I’ve let the kids make a mess, it’s on me to sort out. If he does tidy, everything gets bundled into a bag/box/cupboard.
He does his own washing, nobody else’s.
He says he’s still involved in our business but that generally involves telling me what I and everyone should be doing. If I ask him to do something it’s met with a lot of grumbling.
I should also lose weight and take more care of myself - he spends an hour+ in the bath every night whilst I get the kids to bed and supervise the business. Unless I’m actively working, in which case he puts youngest to bed, has a bath and puts oldest to bed when he’s done.
I shouldn’t fall asleep before the business closes, even if he’s awake, because it’s my choice to be there. I do because I can’t help it, but it’s usually gone midnight when I go to bed properly.
If I complain that it’s impossible to do everything as he thinks it should be done, he says I should leave our business, which I said I would do when DS7 started school. But then at that time it didn’t seem possible to do so.
We have no savings or joint finances. The business covers most of our living costs, I pay for our kids costs. His wages go on CMS payments, debts and clothes for him. He will food shop because I’ve stoped doing it, but he spends ridiculous money doing so.
He says I’ve made no effort to put plans in place to leave but I’m too exhausted to function beyond my day to day existence.
Our business is losing money but any effort I make to correct that gets met with a huff that I’m making more work for myself and neglecting the family.

I get little to no emotional support and comments about our lack of sex life. All I want is to be asked how I am and given a cuddle but I’m usually pushed away. I keep everything in, including the death of pets (met with a Sorry text).
Our youngest absolutely adores him, and we still get on if I wait for the right time and ignore all the other stuff. I think he does try but so much blame is laid at my feet I don’t know how much is my fault (some but not all?).
Occasionally when we’ve really argued he says he’ll have the kids and that terrifies me. I can’t bear the thought of not waking up to them every day, and to be honest I don’t want to put him through that too.
But the parameters he sets out for me are impossible to meet. I don’t understand what he thinks our lives will look like away from the business.

AIBU to not be able to find a solution?
or YANBU, this situation is impossible?

Oh he's going to take the kids if you split up, is he? Tell him that's a feature, not a bug! You will enjoy having 50% of your time child-free, yes you are definitely going to separate now, thanks Hubby!
And what does all his earnings go on? CMS (he has other kids?), debt and CLOTHES???? What did his first slave wife die of?
And what is this insanity that he washes HIS clothes but not everyone else's clothes? He's not a father if he's doing that. Why can't he wash the kids clothes at least.
Call his bluff, he's manipulative AF.

Crazygirlmum · 28/07/2025 05:05

Who does he think he is to call all the shots. Unbelievable. I’m sorry but that not a loving equal partnership. He’s treating you very badly.
i don’t see any reason for you to want yo be in the relationship.
speaking from experience as I was I single mum of 4 for 12 years. Your life would be so much better away from this control freak.
you deserve so much more. Just think, when he had the kids you can actually have some time to yourself.
he doesn’t deserve to have a wife at all. What a control freak!! 😡

MeTooOverHere · 28/07/2025 05:09

legoplaybook · 27/07/2025 20:14

He's absolutely not going to 'have the kids', is he?

He's living like a single bloke already. He doesn't do childcare, get up in the morning or do school runs.
There's zero chance this man wants to be anything other than an every other weekend Disney dad. Can you imagine him stepping up as a single parent??

"an every other weekend Disney dad"
Nah he doesn't even want that.
He's just using it as a threat to keep her under his thumb.

babyproblems · 28/07/2025 05:36

Get rid op. You’re doing it all anyway. He’s not your partner. He’s not a good dad. Best of luck. You sound like superwoman xxxxx

Needsleepneedcoffee · 28/07/2025 05:41

What are you getting out of being with this absolute parasite?