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I can’t manage within the parameters that my DP sets

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CuppaTeawithaCookie · 27/07/2025 17:10

DP and I have been together 12 years, with DS7 and DS1.5. Originally we worked together on our business, but DP wanted to leave and I didn’t, so for the last 3 years he has worked 9-5 Monday to Friday in a physically demanding job. I work for myself, with employees, with DS7 at school and DS1.5 at childcare one day a week, and occasional extra days from in-laws as and when.

These are the statements my DP has made at various times:
He doesn’t want other people looking after DS1.5 ( I had to bulldozer through one day a week).
We can’t have babysitters in for the evening, because he doesn’t trust other people (non-family) to look after our kids and also our house is too messy to let people in.

I shouldn’t leave DS1.5 in his playpen for too long (I understand this and try not too but it’s the only way I get stuff done).
I shouldn’t work weekends.
He won’t get up with the kids in the morning . He doesn’t sleep well so stays in bed until midday on the weekend to catch up on sleep (I get up around 5am every day).
He doesn’t do the school run, it’s not his thing. I do all the school runs or get help when needed.
He doesn’t take/collect DS7 to after-school clubs, also not his thing. Either I do it, organise lifts or DS misses out.
He doesn’t like taking the kids out on his own at the weekend, it makes him feel like a single dad. He has done it when he has no choice but I should be available for family days out.

He doesn’t do housework, he’s either too tired, it’s my mess or I’ve let the kids make a mess, it’s on me to sort out. If he does tidy, everything gets bundled into a bag/box/cupboard.
He does his own washing, nobody else’s.
He says he’s still involved in our business but that generally involves telling me what I and everyone should be doing. If I ask him to do something it’s met with a lot of grumbling.
I should also lose weight and take more care of myself - he spends an hour+ in the bath every night whilst I get the kids to bed and supervise the business. Unless I’m actively working, in which case he puts youngest to bed, has a bath and puts oldest to bed when he’s done.
I shouldn’t fall asleep before the business closes, even if he’s awake, because it’s my choice to be there. I do because I can’t help it, but it’s usually gone midnight when I go to bed properly.
If I complain that it’s impossible to do everything as he thinks it should be done, he says I should leave our business, which I said I would do when DS7 started school. But then at that time it didn’t seem possible to do so.
We have no savings or joint finances. The business covers most of our living costs, I pay for our kids costs. His wages go on CMS payments, debts and clothes for him. He will food shop because I’ve stoped doing it, but he spends ridiculous money doing so.
He says I’ve made no effort to put plans in place to leave but I’m too exhausted to function beyond my day to day existence.
Our business is losing money but any effort I make to correct that gets met with a huff that I’m making more work for myself and neglecting the family.

I get little to no emotional support and comments about our lack of sex life. All I want is to be asked how I am and given a cuddle but I’m usually pushed away. I keep everything in, including the death of pets (met with a Sorry text).
Our youngest absolutely adores him, and we still get on if I wait for the right time and ignore all the other stuff. I think he does try but so much blame is laid at my feet I don’t know how much is my fault (some but not all?).
Occasionally when we’ve really argued he says he’ll have the kids and that terrifies me. I can’t bear the thought of not waking up to them every day, and to be honest I don’t want to put him through that too.
But the parameters he sets out for me are impossible to meet. I don’t understand what he thinks our lives will look like away from the business.

AIBU to not be able to find a solution?
or YANBU, this situation is impossible?

OP posts:
Ineednewcurtainsandblinds · 27/07/2025 19:19

Op. There isn’t a person alive who could “manage” within those (totally made up, by a controlling fuckwit) parameters. How on earth has it come to this? This utter fucking moron dictates the terms and you go along?
I have been in an abusive marriage. He controlled everything. And that is where you are. He absolutely will not take the children, he simply can’t be arsed. Do you have anyone IRL who can help and support you?
I got out and I have never, ever looked back. You can do this too. Now is the time to get rid and get out.

pinkyredrose · 27/07/2025 19:19

Why are you with this useless twat?

TwinklySquid · 27/07/2025 19:19

In the nicest way possible: how could you type all that out and think this situation is okay?

As for the threat of taking the kids- as if! Tell him he’s welcome. He’ll change his mind as soon as he has to do any work. Don’t worry about that. A court wouldn’t give him full custody- they don’t like that.

mauvaiseherbe · 27/07/2025 19:21

Tomatocutwithazigzagedge · 27/07/2025 18:54

He'll take the kids, but he won't go out alone with them as he feels like a single father? Doesn't add up really does it? Where are his other children?

If the business really isn't making money can you use your skills in another company, with paid leave, pension contributions etc to give you the power to kick him out and survive on your own?

or even - to live a little !!!

Dandelionsand4leafclover · 27/07/2025 19:21

OMG OP, he brings nothing positive at all as a partner or a parent. You do everything already. End this farce of a relationship with this lazy abusive man child. You'll be so much better as a lone parent living with your own rules and routines. You deserve so much better than this.

PrioritisePleasure24 · 27/07/2025 19:23

Sounds like being any part of family life ‘isn’t his thing.’ Urgh what do you actually get from this lifestyle? Apart from doing everything and being both parents most of the time!

lazyarse123 · 27/07/2025 19:24

Op please look at the words you've used "parameters my dp set".
He doesn't get to set anything you are supposed to be a team not boss and servant. Please get rid before you are brought so low you can't cope.
He won't want the kids that's an idle threat.

ThatCyanCat · 27/07/2025 19:24

What on earth is the point of him?

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 27/07/2025 19:26

You know, deep down you know, what you have to do here. It’s just a matter of doing it isn’t it? It’s time OP

RandomMess · 27/07/2025 19:27

What’s the point of him, you would be better off apart why he can move longer micro manage your life and he if he wants to se his DC will have to actually parent them!

millymoo1202 · 27/07/2025 19:27

He sounds awful what does he
bring to your lives?

Needlenardlenoo · 27/07/2025 19:31

That is bonkers. You routinely get only 5 hours sleep? Your partner does no parenting at all other than giving the younger one a bath sometimes? You pay all the bills except food?

I can guarantee one thing which is he's not going to take the kids when you split. He's FAR too lazy...

Lotsofsnacks · 27/07/2025 19:38

CuppaTeawithaCookie · 27/07/2025 17:10

DP and I have been together 12 years, with DS7 and DS1.5. Originally we worked together on our business, but DP wanted to leave and I didn’t, so for the last 3 years he has worked 9-5 Monday to Friday in a physically demanding job. I work for myself, with employees, with DS7 at school and DS1.5 at childcare one day a week, and occasional extra days from in-laws as and when.

These are the statements my DP has made at various times:
He doesn’t want other people looking after DS1.5 ( I had to bulldozer through one day a week).
We can’t have babysitters in for the evening, because he doesn’t trust other people (non-family) to look after our kids and also our house is too messy to let people in.

I shouldn’t leave DS1.5 in his playpen for too long (I understand this and try not too but it’s the only way I get stuff done).
I shouldn’t work weekends.
He won’t get up with the kids in the morning . He doesn’t sleep well so stays in bed until midday on the weekend to catch up on sleep (I get up around 5am every day).
He doesn’t do the school run, it’s not his thing. I do all the school runs or get help when needed.
He doesn’t take/collect DS7 to after-school clubs, also not his thing. Either I do it, organise lifts or DS misses out.
He doesn’t like taking the kids out on his own at the weekend, it makes him feel like a single dad. He has done it when he has no choice but I should be available for family days out.

He doesn’t do housework, he’s either too tired, it’s my mess or I’ve let the kids make a mess, it’s on me to sort out. If he does tidy, everything gets bundled into a bag/box/cupboard.
He does his own washing, nobody else’s.
He says he’s still involved in our business but that generally involves telling me what I and everyone should be doing. If I ask him to do something it’s met with a lot of grumbling.
I should also lose weight and take more care of myself - he spends an hour+ in the bath every night whilst I get the kids to bed and supervise the business. Unless I’m actively working, in which case he puts youngest to bed, has a bath and puts oldest to bed when he’s done.
I shouldn’t fall asleep before the business closes, even if he’s awake, because it’s my choice to be there. I do because I can’t help it, but it’s usually gone midnight when I go to bed properly.
If I complain that it’s impossible to do everything as he thinks it should be done, he says I should leave our business, which I said I would do when DS7 started school. But then at that time it didn’t seem possible to do so.
We have no savings or joint finances. The business covers most of our living costs, I pay for our kids costs. His wages go on CMS payments, debts and clothes for him. He will food shop because I’ve stoped doing it, but he spends ridiculous money doing so.
He says I’ve made no effort to put plans in place to leave but I’m too exhausted to function beyond my day to day existence.
Our business is losing money but any effort I make to correct that gets met with a huff that I’m making more work for myself and neglecting the family.

I get little to no emotional support and comments about our lack of sex life. All I want is to be asked how I am and given a cuddle but I’m usually pushed away. I keep everything in, including the death of pets (met with a Sorry text).
Our youngest absolutely adores him, and we still get on if I wait for the right time and ignore all the other stuff. I think he does try but so much blame is laid at my feet I don’t know how much is my fault (some but not all?).
Occasionally when we’ve really argued he says he’ll have the kids and that terrifies me. I can’t bear the thought of not waking up to them every day, and to be honest I don’t want to put him through that too.
But the parameters he sets out for me are impossible to meet. I don’t understand what he thinks our lives will look like away from the business.

AIBU to not be able to find a solution?
or YANBU, this situation is impossible?

Laughing at the bit where he says he’ll have the kids!! Ha ha! OP hes being manipulative and winding you up on purpose!! Don’t fall for this crap. As 1. He’d have to actually look after kids and wash all clothes, not just his. 2. He’d have to do school runs, and take the kids to their various clubs, so they would now HAVE to be his thing then 3. He’d have to take the kids out on the weekend alone, but that’s ok as he wouldn’t just look like a single dad, he would be one! OP, honestly he sounds useless, and doesn’t enhance your life, just hinders it! You either get him to marriage counselling to see if this helps, or you get straight on to a divorce lawyer, know which one I’d do! Good luck.

KeyWorker · 27/07/2025 19:39

OP, I’ve not read all the responses so I apologise if this has already been asked, but, why does he get to set the parameters that you have to tie yourself in knots to struggle to achieve- exhausting yourself in the meantime. Perhaps it’s time you set some expectations for him to live within. Maybe you could conclude that being his partner ‘isn’t your thing’ anymore.

Or, just LTB. He won’t change and you and the kids deserve better.

Thewhywhybird · 27/07/2025 19:41

I can't believe what I've just read. Get a divorce.

Glowingup · 27/07/2025 19:45

Yeah so he sounds like a nice decent man. I can totally see why you are with him - he seems to add so much to your life.

Delphiniumandlupins · 27/07/2025 19:46

He makes CMS payments, when does he see that child? He can't be bothered doing much with the two he shares with you, he's not going to suddenly become involved if you separate.

Mum2jenny · 27/07/2025 19:51

Bin him as he contributes nothing to your or your children’s lives.

nomas · 27/07/2025 19:54

Leave him. He is pretending to the world he is a family man at the expense of your time and effort.

CuppaTeawithaCookie · 27/07/2025 19:56

Still here…. X

OP posts:
Aimtodobetter · 27/07/2025 19:57

CuppaTeawithaCookie · 27/07/2025 17:10

DP and I have been together 12 years, with DS7 and DS1.5. Originally we worked together on our business, but DP wanted to leave and I didn’t, so for the last 3 years he has worked 9-5 Monday to Friday in a physically demanding job. I work for myself, with employees, with DS7 at school and DS1.5 at childcare one day a week, and occasional extra days from in-laws as and when.

These are the statements my DP has made at various times:
He doesn’t want other people looking after DS1.5 ( I had to bulldozer through one day a week).
We can’t have babysitters in for the evening, because he doesn’t trust other people (non-family) to look after our kids and also our house is too messy to let people in.

I shouldn’t leave DS1.5 in his playpen for too long (I understand this and try not too but it’s the only way I get stuff done).
I shouldn’t work weekends.
He won’t get up with the kids in the morning . He doesn’t sleep well so stays in bed until midday on the weekend to catch up on sleep (I get up around 5am every day).
He doesn’t do the school run, it’s not his thing. I do all the school runs or get help when needed.
He doesn’t take/collect DS7 to after-school clubs, also not his thing. Either I do it, organise lifts or DS misses out.
He doesn’t like taking the kids out on his own at the weekend, it makes him feel like a single dad. He has done it when he has no choice but I should be available for family days out.

He doesn’t do housework, he’s either too tired, it’s my mess or I’ve let the kids make a mess, it’s on me to sort out. If he does tidy, everything gets bundled into a bag/box/cupboard.
He does his own washing, nobody else’s.
He says he’s still involved in our business but that generally involves telling me what I and everyone should be doing. If I ask him to do something it’s met with a lot of grumbling.
I should also lose weight and take more care of myself - he spends an hour+ in the bath every night whilst I get the kids to bed and supervise the business. Unless I’m actively working, in which case he puts youngest to bed, has a bath and puts oldest to bed when he’s done.
I shouldn’t fall asleep before the business closes, even if he’s awake, because it’s my choice to be there. I do because I can’t help it, but it’s usually gone midnight when I go to bed properly.
If I complain that it’s impossible to do everything as he thinks it should be done, he says I should leave our business, which I said I would do when DS7 started school. But then at that time it didn’t seem possible to do so.
We have no savings or joint finances. The business covers most of our living costs, I pay for our kids costs. His wages go on CMS payments, debts and clothes for him. He will food shop because I’ve stoped doing it, but he spends ridiculous money doing so.
He says I’ve made no effort to put plans in place to leave but I’m too exhausted to function beyond my day to day existence.
Our business is losing money but any effort I make to correct that gets met with a huff that I’m making more work for myself and neglecting the family.

I get little to no emotional support and comments about our lack of sex life. All I want is to be asked how I am and given a cuddle but I’m usually pushed away. I keep everything in, including the death of pets (met with a Sorry text).
Our youngest absolutely adores him, and we still get on if I wait for the right time and ignore all the other stuff. I think he does try but so much blame is laid at my feet I don’t know how much is my fault (some but not all?).
Occasionally when we’ve really argued he says he’ll have the kids and that terrifies me. I can’t bear the thought of not waking up to them every day, and to be honest I don’t want to put him through that too.
But the parameters he sets out for me are impossible to meet. I don’t understand what he thinks our lives will look like away from the business.

AIBU to not be able to find a solution?
or YANBU, this situation is impossible?

This is an impossible relationship and pretty abusive. Why would you ever accept this. If you can’t bring yourself to kick him out right now at least start running your life the way you want to from now on - if he doesn’t like it he can leave. Any demand from him you do something different should be met with “I’m the one doing the childcare so I will do it the way i want to”, “I’m the one running the business so I will do it the way I want to”, etc

PyongyangKipperbang · 27/07/2025 20:00

If your business is what I think it is, get out asap. The industry is only going to get worse, I dont know anyone in the business that is making money at the moment. You can walk into a GM job tomorrow with your experience. But not for a co beginning with M, they are about to fold and their retail deals are a rip off, good for them but shit for you.

As for your DH, I am failing to see that he doesnt anything at all to facilitate anyone but himself.

Single you would be doing what you are doing now, without him telling you that you are shit. Get rid of him, seriously he is dragging you so far down.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 27/07/2025 20:03

If he’s paying CMS he clearly didn’t take the kids first time around so don’t worry about that !

midlifeattheoasis · 27/07/2025 20:07

Bin

FiestyGemini · 27/07/2025 20:07

CuppaTeawithaCookie · 27/07/2025 17:10

DP and I have been together 12 years, with DS7 and DS1.5. Originally we worked together on our business, but DP wanted to leave and I didn’t, so for the last 3 years he has worked 9-5 Monday to Friday in a physically demanding job. I work for myself, with employees, with DS7 at school and DS1.5 at childcare one day a week, and occasional extra days from in-laws as and when.

These are the statements my DP has made at various times:
He doesn’t want other people looking after DS1.5 ( I had to bulldozer through one day a week).
We can’t have babysitters in for the evening, because he doesn’t trust other people (non-family) to look after our kids and also our house is too messy to let people in.

I shouldn’t leave DS1.5 in his playpen for too long (I understand this and try not too but it’s the only way I get stuff done).
I shouldn’t work weekends.
He won’t get up with the kids in the morning . He doesn’t sleep well so stays in bed until midday on the weekend to catch up on sleep (I get up around 5am every day).
He doesn’t do the school run, it’s not his thing. I do all the school runs or get help when needed.
He doesn’t take/collect DS7 to after-school clubs, also not his thing. Either I do it, organise lifts or DS misses out.
He doesn’t like taking the kids out on his own at the weekend, it makes him feel like a single dad. He has done it when he has no choice but I should be available for family days out.

He doesn’t do housework, he’s either too tired, it’s my mess or I’ve let the kids make a mess, it’s on me to sort out. If he does tidy, everything gets bundled into a bag/box/cupboard.
He does his own washing, nobody else’s.
He says he’s still involved in our business but that generally involves telling me what I and everyone should be doing. If I ask him to do something it’s met with a lot of grumbling.
I should also lose weight and take more care of myself - he spends an hour+ in the bath every night whilst I get the kids to bed and supervise the business. Unless I’m actively working, in which case he puts youngest to bed, has a bath and puts oldest to bed when he’s done.
I shouldn’t fall asleep before the business closes, even if he’s awake, because it’s my choice to be there. I do because I can’t help it, but it’s usually gone midnight when I go to bed properly.
If I complain that it’s impossible to do everything as he thinks it should be done, he says I should leave our business, which I said I would do when DS7 started school. But then at that time it didn’t seem possible to do so.
We have no savings or joint finances. The business covers most of our living costs, I pay for our kids costs. His wages go on CMS payments, debts and clothes for him. He will food shop because I’ve stoped doing it, but he spends ridiculous money doing so.
He says I’ve made no effort to put plans in place to leave but I’m too exhausted to function beyond my day to day existence.
Our business is losing money but any effort I make to correct that gets met with a huff that I’m making more work for myself and neglecting the family.

I get little to no emotional support and comments about our lack of sex life. All I want is to be asked how I am and given a cuddle but I’m usually pushed away. I keep everything in, including the death of pets (met with a Sorry text).
Our youngest absolutely adores him, and we still get on if I wait for the right time and ignore all the other stuff. I think he does try but so much blame is laid at my feet I don’t know how much is my fault (some but not all?).
Occasionally when we’ve really argued he says he’ll have the kids and that terrifies me. I can’t bear the thought of not waking up to them every day, and to be honest I don’t want to put him through that too.
But the parameters he sets out for me are impossible to meet. I don’t understand what he thinks our lives will look like away from the business.

AIBU to not be able to find a solution?
or YANBU, this situation is impossible?

Reading this it sounds like your husband is jealous of you, trying to minimise your confidence in your business and mothering and is utterly selfish. Im sorry to write that but if you can re-read what you have written- does that sound like a partner you would want your children, friends or siblings to be in? I think he and you deserve to be with other partners where they encourage and bring out the best in each other.