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To be annoyed that my gym only has open mixed sex showers

163 replies

Hothothothothotdog · 25/07/2025 08:24

My local council gym with a swimming pool only has open showers in the mixed-sex swimming pool. This means I have to rise off, dress, then go home and shower which just seems absolutely ridiculous to me.

AIBU to be fuming about it? It means an early morning swim is off the cards as I’ve not got time for that faff (or ever tbh!).

OP posts:
TheignT · 25/07/2025 11:07

BoredZelda · 25/07/2025 08:42

Same at my local leisure centre, has been for the two decades I’ve lived here. Not sure why people have an issue with it all of a sudden.

Was the same at the pool where I learned to swim over 60 years ago.

TheignT · 25/07/2025 11:11

PaterPower · 25/07/2025 08:45

People did, and do, “bat an eyelid” about mixed sex changing areas.

There’ve been far too many (one would be too many, but it’s not isolated) incidents of cameras / phones going under doors or over cubicle tops. Most council changing cubicles have metal bars at head height precisely because perverts were peaking over, before they were in place. There’ve been reported attempts to pull kids into cubicles too.

The majority of people don’t complain because they’re well aware it’ll get shrugged off, like it has been when complaints have been made in the past.

Unisex facilities mean that the operator (council or private) can provide fewer showers and loos and can have staff of either sex cleaning them. It’s a cost saving for them. They don’t give a shiny shit about safety unless it has a direct financial impact on them, or legislation enforces it.

The pool I use has a mixed sex changing area but it is open to the pool. Two lifeguards are sat right next to the changing area so I never feel it's a problem. There are open showers and some cubicles so you get a choice. It seems to work.

DiggingHoles · 25/07/2025 11:24

R0ckandHardPlace · 25/07/2025 08:30

Is it your first time in a council leisure centre? This is what baffles me about the uproar over unisex toilets when council gyms/pools have always had mixed changing rooms and nobody bats an eyelid.

That is because you shower in your swimsuit.

The local pools in the places I have lived always had mixed showers and single sex toilets.

ETA: as well as single sex cubicles and single sex changing rooms.

Hankunamatata · 25/07/2025 11:26

Just stick on a tobe or towel and flip flops and go to the ladies.

lljkk · 25/07/2025 11:34

separate women’s changing room with showers.

The pool I go to now is like that, single sex changing rooms... I kind of don't like the nuddy women wandering around. I'm too used to mixed sex changing rooms & you only get nuddy if A) you're under 5yo or B) in your cubicle OR in the single cubicle showers (which every council pool I've been to also has).

The now-pool is competition standard and although they have family sessions, it is fairly bad set up for families so not many families go. It's Difficult When .... say a dad wants to take his 7yo daughter swimming. This was exactly our problem when DC were little. I recently tracked down "Mum!" when a lad about 8yo was standing outside the changing room shouting for her attention. Not ideal.

Nearly50omg · 25/07/2025 11:45

Hothothothothotdog · 25/07/2025 08:38

Fair enough I’ve only ever been swimming where there has been a separate women’s changing room with showers.
i know I could wash my hair/give my body a rinse but does no one feel gross all day not been able to properly wash the chlorine off your bits and pits?

There is a separate ladies changing room which could have a shower but you’d have to walk through all the communal lobby area wet with a swimming costume on so not sure that would work?

You realise you’re in the swimming pool wearing a swimming costume in front of all the same people?!🤷‍♀️🤣🤣 no one gives a shit if you wash your armpits and hair in front of them in the shower! You are overthinking just how much people actually looking at you and care?

Ddakji · 25/07/2025 11:47

Nearly50omg · 25/07/2025 11:45

You realise you’re in the swimming pool wearing a swimming costume in front of all the same people?!🤷‍♀️🤣🤣 no one gives a shit if you wash your armpits and hair in front of them in the shower! You are overthinking just how much people actually looking at you and care?

Obviously that poster wants to remove her swimming costume for a proper wash. Is that the norm where you swim?

CarlaH · 25/07/2025 12:01

Aren't you clean and showered (at home) before you even go to the pool? How dirty can you get having entered the water clean.

Soontobe60 · 25/07/2025 12:05

R0ckandHardPlace · 25/07/2025 08:30

Is it your first time in a council leisure centre? This is what baffles me about the uproar over unisex toilets when council gyms/pools have always had mixed changing rooms and nobody bats an eyelid.

Maybe try looking up how many sex offences are carried out when mixed sex facilities are the only availability. Here’s a small sample…
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/pervert-used-his-mobile-phone-to-photograph-girls-changing-at-edinburgh-pool-3104606
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/men-filmed-people-swimming-pools-changing-rooms-bathrooms-police-b1154508.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gang-hid-pool-changing-rooms-160356310.html

Men who filmed 6,000 people using bathrooms and swimming pool changing rooms jailed

Some of the victims were children at the time, and many have not been traced

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/men-filmed-people-swimming-pools-changing-rooms-bathrooms-police-b1154508.html

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 25/07/2025 12:22

Hothothothothotdog · 25/07/2025 08:38

Fair enough I’ve only ever been swimming where there has been a separate women’s changing room with showers.
i know I could wash my hair/give my body a rinse but does no one feel gross all day not been able to properly wash the chlorine off your bits and pits?

There is a separate ladies changing room which could have a shower but you’d have to walk through all the communal lobby area wet with a swimming costume on so not sure that would work?

I can honestly say I've never in all my years seen anyone do their "bits and pits" in a public swimming pool shower!
Surely you just have a wash in the showers with your swimming costume on and then you can have a more thorough one when you get home if you like?!

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 25/07/2025 12:24

Nearly50omg · 25/07/2025 11:45

You realise you’re in the swimming pool wearing a swimming costume in front of all the same people?!🤷‍♀️🤣🤣 no one gives a shit if you wash your armpits and hair in front of them in the shower! You are overthinking just how much people actually looking at you and care?

She wants to do "her bits" as well though
Which to wash would involve taking swimming costume off.
I've never known communal naked showers at swimming pools

PluckyChancer · 25/07/2025 12:30

I’m 60 and have never encountered mixed showers where there’s a pool. If I did, I wouldn’t bother returning there. Sod that.

RedSeven · 25/07/2025 12:33

YANBU

ysa it's standard but women shouldn't have to be showering in front of men.

men are the biggest danger to women and a basic shower in front of men is just a minimal right.

buts it's universally normal and I don't think it would change.

autienotnaughty · 25/07/2025 12:40

oviraptor21 · 25/07/2025 10:34

Shower when you normally do? After going for a swim? That will be immediately after I get out of the pool then. In the single sex showers.

As in morning or evening?

latetothefisting · 25/07/2025 12:48

Faceitprune · 25/07/2025 08:42

Oh don’t be daft op

you don’t need to walk through reception to get to the the ladies changing rooms

go on, enlighten us, which local council gym is this?

Edited

It's pretty arrogant to call the op daft and assume she doesn't understand the layout of HER OWN gym, when you yourself have never been there!

As pps on this thread have said, I have also been to leisure centres where there is one mixed changing "village" usually near the pool area AND separate male and female changing rooms, often in a different part of the building (i.e. near the gym), and no option to get from one to the other without going through the public areas which could have reception, a coffee shop, in one place I visited a library in - thus pretty understandable you might not want to wander across dripping in your swimsuit.

My leisure centre asked for feedback after their big refurb when they changed from separate sex into mixed village - they said there had been a lot of mixed feedback but essentially every new public leisure centre built in the last decade has followed the same design- nowhere is building new public centres with only single sex facilities. That's why some people have never experienced them and some have only experienced them, all depends how old your centre is.

Otoh all the private gyms with pools I've been in - David Lloyd, virgin active have all still had single sex changing rooms.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 25/07/2025 12:53

RedSeven · 25/07/2025 12:33

YANBU

ysa it's standard but women shouldn't have to be showering in front of men.

men are the biggest danger to women and a basic shower in front of men is just a minimal right.

buts it's universally normal and I don't think it would change.

You literally have your swimming costume on though? Thinking back I can only ever remember communal shower areas and everyone was in the same big open area one. Never thought anything of it tbh.

Miyagi99 · 25/07/2025 12:55

I thought they were all like this anyway.

Ddakji · 25/07/2025 12:55

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 25/07/2025 12:53

You literally have your swimming costume on though? Thinking back I can only ever remember communal shower areas and everyone was in the same big open area one. Never thought anything of it tbh.

Which shows how easy it is to make women believe they aren’t entitled to their own spaces. You’ve never known it so you don’t think it’s a thing or even should be a thing.

beAsensible1 · 25/07/2025 12:55

That’s because they’re meant to be rinse off showers. Not get ready for a full day shower.

usually the gym sections will have a proper get ready shower. You are supposed to arrive clean for swimming (having used soap or some other cleaning product for your body)

so you should rinse off anybody seat when entering and rinse off the chlorine water when leaving.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 25/07/2025 12:58

Ddakji · 25/07/2025 12:55

Which shows how easy it is to make women believe they aren’t entitled to their own spaces. You’ve never known it so you don’t think it’s a thing or even should be a thing.

Nobody gets their clothes off though, it's a rinse off after the pool. You hardly do an intimate wash, you do that when you get home surely.

beAsensible1 · 25/07/2025 13:01

ErrolTheDragon · 25/07/2025 09:19

I’ve not been to the local pool for quite a long time, but it had a changing village with 3 sets of cubicles - male, female and mixed plus family/disabled rooms. That’s fine, caters appropriately for all needs for changing. But the showers were just a very small number of completely open overhead type, really only suitable for a quick rinse - some people did lather up and wash their hair which would result in others having to wait dripping for a rinse.

seems like they really didn’t want to provide facilities for proper washing. I suppose proper amounts of hot water for each user can get expensive, I think this is deliberate not an oversight.

This is because a lot of leisure centres get homeless people coming to use them for a wash.

and then beginning the changing rooms. So I think they’re phasing them out. But also it’s to just get people in and out rather than spending 45 minutes getting ready. And doing a full hair wash routine.

beAsensible1 · 25/07/2025 13:08

oviraptor21 · 25/07/2025 10:23

Wow! In my area it's always been single sex - and I'm in my 60s now.
But I haven't seen the council ones since my DC stopped swimming so I don't know if it's changed since then. I'm not keen on swimming so unless I'm forced to stop doing other sports through injury I won't be going anyway, but if I did consider it, I wouldn't be going anywhere with mixed sex showers. Who wants to shower with a swimsuit on? - that's no way to get the chlorine off your skin.

Do people not plan their day, activities around the facilities they have access to?

if you know you prefer a proper wash and want to use a place that only has these facilities you make sure you have enough time to get ready at home after your workout?

unless I’m at one of my fancy gyms I wash at home. I would only shower at the leisure centre if I was desperate.

a communal rinse off shower is the leisure centre making it clear it’s for a RINSE.

My local has to put up signs telling people to stop dyeing their hair and wash their undies. No wonder they’ve opened everything up.

Tiredofwhataboutery · 25/07/2025 13:14

At my local pool there is a similar setup. I have a dry robe type thing and flip flops that I wear between the two changing rooms. Normally I go to the gym pre swim so my stuff is in that changing room and I’m just nipping in to do a few lengths / sauna.

Ddakji · 25/07/2025 13:16

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 25/07/2025 12:58

Nobody gets their clothes off though, it's a rinse off after the pool. You hardly do an intimate wash, you do that when you get home surely.

Like I said upthread, I’ve swum at lunchtime quite often over the years, in various council pools, and always had access to female changing rooms and showers, and have had a proper shower in a private shower cubicle.

So I’m not going home, I’m going back to work. And I’d like to be clean when I do so. Which I’ve always been able to be.

deedeemeloy · 25/07/2025 13:20

Pretty standard to have communal showers at a leisure centre. Just shower and wash your hair with your costume on like everyone else.