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NI - domestic abuse and ingrained misogyny

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VictoriaJ56 · 24/07/2025 11:04

After the utterly tragic murder suicide of a mother and her two children in NI, the discussion of NI and the high level of abuse we have here against women and girls. Some men in NI hold such deep misogynistic views. There will be hardly be a womon in NI that has not directly been involved in a misogynistic relationship. I see it within friends and family groups. Men and their even quite inane behaviour such as entitled views, seeing women as possessions, infidelity being wholly excused. I often hear: they are as bad as each other (domestic violence); he is a good father (abused the mother). There is a lot of love excusing. Thinking of that poor mother and her children and hoping that they are now at peace.

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JHound · 24/07/2025 11:15

I was shocked to learn that NI was the domestic violence capital of Europe (I think).

It obviously is rooted in misogyny and a sense of male ownership of women. But why?

JHound · 24/07/2025 11:19

I also wonder if that same misogyny, bizarrely, drove the riots they have been having regarding the allegations made against the Romanian teenagers.

The men viewing that THEIR women (their property) have been assaulted by outsiders. They are less bothered by allegations against NI men because they believe they can do as they like with their own property.

VictoriaJ56 · 24/07/2025 11:22

Yes. Many of the men at these protests are perpetrators of domestic violence and abuse yet very few will be held to any account. It is shocking.

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hellohellooo · 24/07/2025 11:26

OP I live 20 minutes from this family

I just can't get my head around this

Not so far away around 8 years ago the most beautiful lady was stabbed to death
She was known to women's aid
The funding for women's aid was cut at that time

Utter devastation

💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

TheWorthyGreenDreamer · 24/07/2025 11:39

I'm dual-heritage. English (Dad) and Irish (Mum) though Eire. And travellers going back to before the 30s when my Great-Grandmother left the community and moved to England decades after her husband was murdered in a traveller dispute about horses in 1936.

My Mum gets upset that I seem to her to reject my Irish heritage. Because to me, it was fucking shit. My great-grandfather was murdered, God knows what my grandmother suffered and my mother and all of her sisters were sexually abused by their father and various other male relatives.

Great-Uncles sexually abused by the 'Christian brothers'. A great-uncle who committed suicide and the priest refused to bury him.

Add to that magdalen laundries, industrial schools and mother and baby homes and it can all fuck off in my opinion.

placemats · 24/07/2025 12:48

It's shocking and horrific the level of domestic abuse and violence levelled towards woman and girls in Northern Ireland.

CreationNat1on · 24/07/2025 12:54

Inter generational trauma, war, atrocities of war, women were second class citizens and "comfort" servants to men. Trauma, poverty, violence, cover ups, bullying, not enough education, erosion of the moral compass, terrorism, normalisation of illegal activities, all leads to depravation of society and secrecy and more cover ups.

hellohellooo · 24/07/2025 13:55

TheWorthyGreenDreamer · 24/07/2025 11:39

I'm dual-heritage. English (Dad) and Irish (Mum) though Eire. And travellers going back to before the 30s when my Great-Grandmother left the community and moved to England decades after her husband was murdered in a traveller dispute about horses in 1936.

My Mum gets upset that I seem to her to reject my Irish heritage. Because to me, it was fucking shit. My great-grandfather was murdered, God knows what my grandmother suffered and my mother and all of her sisters were sexually abused by their father and various other male relatives.

Great-Uncles sexually abused by the 'Christian brothers'. A great-uncle who committed suicide and the priest refused to bury him.

Add to that magdalen laundries, industrial schools and mother and baby homes and it can all fuck off in my opinion.

My god

That's just horrendous

We can never underestimate the damage caused by the troubles and the Catholic Church

So little funding for women's aid
Women escaping and these bastards finding them

RIP
I have cried a lot since the news broke yesterday morning

The only consolation is that they are at peace now from a horrendous abuser

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