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AIBU for pronouncing the name Brooke as BrOOKe rather than Bruck

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MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 22/07/2025 11:54

I’m a Geordie and pronounce words such as Book, Look and Cook with an oo sound rather than the uck sound.
A family who are from about an hour a way said that her daughter is sick of everyone pronouncing her name incorrectly.

I explained that it’s an accent thing as we pronounce those words with an oo sound rather that uck so it wouldn’t occur to most people to pronounce it that way and they wouldn’t deliberately mispronounce her name!

Just as if I go another part of the country or different country they pronounce my name differently depending on their accent.

AIBU?

OP posts:
sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 17:17

MyLov · 22/07/2025 16:58

What accent pronounces Brooke as Bruck? I’m in SE and Geordies oo is definitely longer and more emphasised than my oo would be but both are still an o sound. I can’t think what accent would use Bruck?

Derbyshire here, we say Brooke as Bruck, Luck, Truck, Book, Cook etc.. all the same.

TaborlinTheGreat · 22/07/2025 17:20

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 17:12

No I wouldn't say it in their accent, as that's quite mickey taking IMO, I would pronounce it how they do with my regional inflection.

But THAT ISN'T WHAT OP IS DOING.. instead of saying Bruck in her regional inflection, she is saying it based on how it is spelled, which is a different regional pronunciation altogether, there's a massive difference!

Op is perfectly capable of saying the word "Bruck", she is CHOOSING to pronounce it how it is spelled and how a child in their region would say it and deliberately calling her Broooke, when her name is actually pronounced Bruck.

If OP can say Bruck, she should say Bruck as that is her name.

No, the OP is pronouncing the name as it is pronounced in her accent. The same as you would pronounce an American or French person's name in your accent. You would be 'choosing' NOT to pronounce it as they pronounce it. There is no difference in your examples. You think there's a difference because you have accent bias. You think that if you copied someone else's accent to pronounce their name, that would sound silly and as if you were taking the piss. But that's exactly what you're saying the OP should do. It's the exact same thing.

HoratioNightboy · 22/07/2025 17:20

AutumnLeaves95 · 22/07/2025 12:51

IMO you are being unreasonable since they’ve told you how it’s actually pronounced and you’re using your idiolect as a reason why you’re not pronouncing it correctly?

So you think people should mimic a different accent to pronounce someone's name? What if my name was Brooke too? How about I insist she pronounce my name with a Scottish accent, with a rolled R and a strong OOO sound, while I tried to put on the accent that she uses to address her? Would all be a bit silly, would it not?

Far better that her parents teach her about different accents across Britain and that not everyone pronounces letters in the same way - look at the issues we see especially on the Baby Names forum, when someone tries to phonetically describe a sound but not everyone gets what they mean, as has happened on this thread too.

There was even one woman complaining once about the name Helen being mispronounced as "Hellin" with a schwa on the second E instead of an "Eh" sound. That caused more arguments than you might imagine.

This seven-year-old is going to have to learn quickly that she can't expect all Geordies to adopt her accent just to say a common name, and heaven help her if they move north of the border.

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 17:21

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 17:15

But THAT IS WHAT THE OP IS DOING.

That's how people in Newcastle pronounce that word, the name Brooke, just like the word for stream brook.

If the OP had a daughter called Brooke, that's how they would say her name.

That is all fine! As soon as you talk to someone else who pronounces their name Bruck, and who would like their name pronouncing as Bruck, and you are CAPABLE of saying the word Bruck, you shouldn't then change it to your preferred pronunciation, just because that 'is how we say it round 'ere'.

It really doesn't matter how it is spelled, or what you would call your next door neighbour, the girl's name is Bruck, just call her Bruck!

doodleschnoodle · 22/07/2025 17:21

HotCrossBunplease · 22/07/2025 17:16

Oh absolutely, it was always “roasted cheese” in our house. More central than West though. I had an English boyfriend who asked me to stop saying it as he thought it was some sort of twee family phrase. I dumped him.

Edited

Good job. Our house is still split by the great diluting juice/squash divide, but we press on.

breakfastdinnerandtea · 22/07/2025 17:25

TaborlinTheGreat · 22/07/2025 17:15

But you must have heard southerners talk. Many times. The 'u' / 'oo' is one of the key differences between most northern and most southern English accents. Along with the 'a'/'ah' difference. Sometimes it helps to imagine an actual person saying it.

Try imagining the late Queen saying 'I say, do fuck off, there's a good chap!' Grin. I assure you she would not have said 'Fook off!'. The posh southern English 'u' is probably closer to an 'a' sound than an 'oo' sound.

I mean, of course I’ve heard southerners talk but can’t specifically remember any of them say fuck, brook, cook, wood, or any of the examples here. Especially not enough that I’d even notice it. And, like I said, even the videos of pronunciations of truck and Brooke (Shields) sounded exactly the same to me, but clearly to the poster who shared them they sound different.

I tried looking at the foot strut split as suggested, but all the words given as examples on Google have the same vowel sound to my ear (foot, strut, put, cut). I’m not being ignorant, I just genuinely don’t hear a difference.

I think if I’m pretending the queen is saying “fuck off dear” I’m hearing fuck, but if I hear a cockney in my head it’s more “fack”, but are people saying “track” instead of truck? Do southerners hear “brack” instead of Bruck? “Fook” off would be more like moon to me. Foooooo-k (but not as long).

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 17:26

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 17:21

That is all fine! As soon as you talk to someone else who pronounces their name Bruck, and who would like their name pronouncing as Bruck, and you are CAPABLE of saying the word Bruck, you shouldn't then change it to your preferred pronunciation, just because that 'is how we say it round 'ere'.

It really doesn't matter how it is spelled, or what you would call your next door neighbour, the girl's name is Bruck, just call her Bruck!

The girl's name is not Bruck. It's Brooke.

The name Brooke is pronounced differently in different places, just as the names already mentioned on this thread like Dave, Andy and William are pronounced differently in different places.

Would you expect a Scottish person saying Brooke to not use their instinctive rhotic R?

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 17:28

TaborlinTheGreat · 22/07/2025 17:20

No, the OP is pronouncing the name as it is pronounced in her accent. The same as you would pronounce an American or French person's name in your accent. You would be 'choosing' NOT to pronounce it as they pronounce it. There is no difference in your examples. You think there's a difference because you have accent bias. You think that if you copied someone else's accent to pronounce their name, that would sound silly and as if you were taking the piss. But that's exactly what you're saying the OP should do. It's the exact same thing.

No, the OP is pronouncing the name as it is pronounced in her accent. The same as you would pronounce an American or French person's name in your accent.

It doesn't MATTER how it is usually pronounced in OPs accent, the girls name is Bruck, Op is perfectly capable of saying the word Bruck, she can call her Bruck.

If a French person told me their name was Pierre (Pee Air), I would repeat how they pronounced it to me, in my accent it probably wouldn't sound exactly the same but I wouldn't deliberately call them Pear or Peter because "that is how we say it in England".

DestinysMum · 22/07/2025 17:28

Ifyounevergiveup · 22/07/2025 15:08

I’m an adopted Geordie. This is hard to describe but I’ll try. You’re all saying Brooke with what you THINK is an ooo sound but up here it’s not neatly enough. Think of the really exaggerated oooo sound when you say “juice” but elongate it. That’s how Geordies pronounce Brooke. Like, BROOOOOOOKE! Gan inside fa ya tea noo ya bugga!” 🤣

I understand because I love Chris and Rosie Ramsey and I've heard them say cook book on their podcast 🤣

However Brooke and truck are still not the same in most English accents which I think is why people are so confused.

MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 22/07/2025 17:29

@sandyhappypeopleSo you would mimic somebody’s accent every time you find out someone’s name??
You would call someone Daayyvid instead of David? As that’s how they pronounced their name?
You would call some Peeta rather than Peter?
You would call an American lad called Carl Carrl because that’s how he introduced himself?
You would come across as mocking someone!

OP posts:
MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 17:31

breakfastdinnerandtea · 22/07/2025 17:25

I mean, of course I’ve heard southerners talk but can’t specifically remember any of them say fuck, brook, cook, wood, or any of the examples here. Especially not enough that I’d even notice it. And, like I said, even the videos of pronunciations of truck and Brooke (Shields) sounded exactly the same to me, but clearly to the poster who shared them they sound different.

I tried looking at the foot strut split as suggested, but all the words given as examples on Google have the same vowel sound to my ear (foot, strut, put, cut). I’m not being ignorant, I just genuinely don’t hear a difference.

I think if I’m pretending the queen is saying “fuck off dear” I’m hearing fuck, but if I hear a cockney in my head it’s more “fack”, but are people saying “track” instead of truck? Do southerners hear “brack” instead of Bruck? “Fook” off would be more like moon to me. Foooooo-k (but not as long).

In southern English, yes, truck and "bruck" rhyme and it's exactly the same sound as a southerner saying "fuck."

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sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 17:32

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 17:26

The girl's name is not Bruck. It's Brooke.

The name Brooke is pronounced differently in different places, just as the names already mentioned on this thread like Dave, Andy and William are pronounced differently in different places.

Would you expect a Scottish person saying Brooke to not use their instinctive rhotic R?

again, you're going off the spelling only, if she INTRODUCED HERSELF as "Bruck", would you then say "nice to meet you Brooooke" .. and completely disregard what she has told you?

Or would you just call her "Bruck", seeing as you are perfectly capable of saying that word and you have no idea how she spells it?? She could spell her name as "Bruck" for all you know.

Why would you call her a different name to what she has told you her name is?

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 17:33

DestinysMum · 22/07/2025 17:28

I understand because I love Chris and Rosie Ramsey and I've heard them say cook book on their podcast 🤣

However Brooke and truck are still not the same in most English accents which I think is why people are so confused.

Please, pease, please don't claim anything about "most" English accents unless you've done a survey.

Talipesmum · 22/07/2025 17:34

LizzyEm · 22/07/2025 13:55

This. I've never in my life heard of the name BrOOOOke pronounced Bruck Confused

This audio clip and you and PP’s comments crack me up, because when I listen to that audio clip, I hear someone saying “bruck” in my (nw England) accent. I would pronounce Brooke exactly like this audio clip. And that’s what the OP means when she says “bruck”.

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 17:39

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 17:32

again, you're going off the spelling only, if she INTRODUCED HERSELF as "Bruck", would you then say "nice to meet you Brooooke" .. and completely disregard what she has told you?

Or would you just call her "Bruck", seeing as you are perfectly capable of saying that word and you have no idea how she spells it?? She could spell her name as "Bruck" for all you know.

Why would you call her a different name to what she has told you her name is?

If someone introduced themselves to me by a name I recognised, I would call them by that name.

If they introduced themselves as (what i heard as) "Terreh", I would call them Terry.

If they introduced themselves as (what i heard as) "Will-yum", I would call them William.

If they introduced themselves as (what i heard as) "Bruck", I would call them Brooke.

I would not call them a different name to what they had told me their name was. I would use their name, but pronounce it in the way I pronounce that sound.

breakfastdinnerandtea · 22/07/2025 17:40

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 17:31

In southern English, yes, truck and "bruck" rhyme and it's exactly the same sound as a southerner saying "fuck."

Yeah so that’s how I would say fuck too which rhymes with the way the Brooke Shields video pronounced Brooke.

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 17:40

breakfastdinnerandtea · 22/07/2025 17:40

Yeah so that’s how I would say fuck too which rhymes with the way the Brooke Shields video pronounced Brooke.

Well, it isn't.

Two clearly different sounds.

Dramatic · 22/07/2025 17:40

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 16:49

It's not a different word altogether though, it's how's it's pronounced in her accent.

NO IT ISN'T! IT'S NOT A "WORD" AT ALL, IT'S A NAME!

If she was talking about a small stream, then that is perfectly fine, as double oo's are pronounced a certain way in her accent, to say broooke, if it is someone's name who call themselves "Bruck", and OP is perfectly capable of saying the word "Bruck" (which she is!!) then she is pronouncing it based purely on it's spelling, rather than based on it's ACTUAL pronunciation!

You are wrong.

sandyhappypeople · 22/07/2025 17:41

MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 22/07/2025 17:29

@sandyhappypeopleSo you would mimic somebody’s accent every time you find out someone’s name??
You would call someone Daayyvid instead of David? As that’s how they pronounced their name?
You would call some Peeta rather than Peter?
You would call an American lad called Carl Carrl because that’s how he introduced himself?
You would come across as mocking someone!

None of those instances are the same as what you do, because you change the pronunciation of it completely. Changing Carl to Carrl is just lingering on the R a little longer, it doesn't change the sound of the name.

If someone says their name is David, then I would say it how THEY say it:
If they pronounced it Dayyyvid, I'd say Dayvid (in my accent but with the emphasis on the Y), if they said DAHVID (I'd say it in my accent but emphasise the AH sound), if they said DAFFID, I'd (I'd say it in my accent but emphasise the AFF sound).

It's not about mimicking accents, it's about saying the name as they say it. it's about emphasising the letters in their name the same way they do, Brooke emphasises the UCK sound in her name, and I find it utterly baffling that you can't do it too?

breakfastdinnerandtea · 22/07/2025 17:42

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 17:39

If someone introduced themselves to me by a name I recognised, I would call them by that name.

If they introduced themselves as (what i heard as) "Terreh", I would call them Terry.

If they introduced themselves as (what i heard as) "Will-yum", I would call them William.

If they introduced themselves as (what i heard as) "Bruck", I would call them Brooke.

I would not call them a different name to what they had told me their name was. I would use their name, but pronounce it in the way I pronounce that sound.

But what if they told you their name wasn’t Terry but actually Terreh? You could still say Terreh in your accent, you’d just have to change the end sound from ee to eh?

breakfastdinnerandtea · 22/07/2025 17:42

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 17:40

Well, it isn't.

Two clearly different sounds.

Obviously not “clearly different sounds” since I, and many others on here, don’t hear them differently.

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 17:43

If their name was "Terreh", then I would call them "Terreh".

This person's name is "Brooke", so I would call them "Brooke".

Sakura7 · 22/07/2025 17:44

breakfastdinnerandtea · 22/07/2025 17:40

Yeah so that’s how I would say fuck too which rhymes with the way the Brooke Shields video pronounced Brooke.

Irish here and I agree with you.

breakfastdinnerandtea · 22/07/2025 17:44

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 17:43

If their name was "Terreh", then I would call them "Terreh".

This person's name is "Brooke", so I would call them "Brooke".

But this person is telling you their name is Bruck. You’d still call them Brooke?

MasterBeth · 22/07/2025 17:45

breakfastdinnerandtea · 22/07/2025 17:42

Obviously not “clearly different sounds” since I, and many others on here, don’t hear them differently.

I don't think there are many people on here who can't hear the difference. (Who else?)

There are many people on here who can't articulate the difference in writing.