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Why don’t people understand that not everyone wants to buy a house?

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tarrantulla · 21/07/2025 19:08

We rent a flat in London. Have a big deposit but would rather invest it across several asset classes. Prices around us in zone 1-2 are dropping.

People will often say things like “oh are you saving for a deposit” or “it’s such a waste of money to rent” when in reality, for the last few years smart people in London rent and not buy!

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soupyspoon · 22/07/2025 17:22

MyCyanReader · 22/07/2025 16:11

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You ONLY own the property if you take a repayment mortgage then you ONLY own the property once the mortgage has been repaid.

The INTEREST on the mortgage is the rent you pay the bank.

The interest on the mortgage is therefore comparable to renting a property.

Who told you this?

Because they were wrong by the way.

Didnt you say you bought a property? How did you manage to do that with such an unfortunate understanding of how a mortgage and home ownership works?

Yourethebeerthief · 22/07/2025 18:38

MyCyanReader · 22/07/2025 16:11

🤦🏼‍♀️

You ONLY own the property if you take a repayment mortgage then you ONLY own the property once the mortgage has been repaid.

The INTEREST on the mortgage is the rent you pay the bank.

The interest on the mortgage is therefore comparable to renting a property.

I think you need to use this 🤦🏼‍♀️ emoji on yourself

Aspanielstolemysanity · 22/07/2025 18:42

MyCyanReader · 22/07/2025 16:11

🤦🏼‍♀️

You ONLY own the property if you take a repayment mortgage then you ONLY own the property once the mortgage has been repaid.

The INTEREST on the mortgage is the rent you pay the bank.

The interest on the mortgage is therefore comparable to renting a property.

Nope.
You are the legal owner. The bank has a charge secured against the property you own .

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 22/07/2025 19:54

deusexmacintosh · 22/07/2025 14:19

I doubt they'll have to worry much. Californian legislators are working on amendments to the euthanasia law, to allow patients with dementia to access assisted dying once they have reached the stage where they have no quality of life. A kind of advance directive made while you still have capacity, that says 'darling, I'm at stage 4/5 /6 now. 1000mg of pure nembutal, intramuscular, and read the tibetan book of the dead to me.'

Where American culture goes, Britain always follows (give or take 20 years). By the time Gen Z are getting ill, that will be commonplace. The ponzi scheme of care homes (or holding cells) for violently unhappy distressed patients trapped in a void of relentless anxiety will probably collapse. You'll be encouraged to spend your savings on a nice ceremony at the beach run by a ceremonial dying company, not an understaffed poorly run care home. Those will be for the ultra rich pensioners only.

(Or solent green 😅)

I wish we’d been legally allowed to send my poor mother peacefully into a sleep from which she’d never wake, when she was still at a stage of dementia where she couldn’t remember anything, but was often anxious about something that was all in her head - but before she became doubly incontinent, unable to recognise any of her family, or hold any sort of conversation.
So maybe at 90, rather than going on to 97, as she did.

I know 100% it’s what her former self would have wanted, too.

Doris86 · 22/07/2025 21:12

MyCyanReader · 21/07/2025 19:20

Buying a house is essentially renting from a bank. Interest on a mortgage is comparable to rent so saying renting is a waste of money just isn't true as in some cases the Interest would be more than rent.

We bought as renting would be 4 times the mortgage Interest. We also have no need to change location.

I love having my own property and wasn't keen on renting.

Ok so I’m not buying my house, I’m just renting it from the bank?

Well I have to say the bank is the best landlord I’ve ever had. They let me live in peace, never invade my privacy to do inspections. They let me decorate the house however I want, do what I want to it and don’t get funny if I put a few picture hooks up. They don’t care how many pets I have. They don’t raise the ‘rent’ on a whim - I’m locked into a 5 year deal. So long as I keep paying the ‘rent’ they will never evict me. Best of all once I’ve lived here 25 years they give me the house for free.

All things considered I’m very happy to be renting from the bank.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 22/07/2025 21:18

Doris86 · 22/07/2025 21:12

Ok so I’m not buying my house, I’m just renting it from the bank?

Well I have to say the bank is the best landlord I’ve ever had. They let me live in peace, never invade my privacy to do inspections. They let me decorate the house however I want, do what I want to it and don’t get funny if I put a few picture hooks up. They don’t care how many pets I have. They don’t raise the ‘rent’ on a whim - I’m locked into a 5 year deal. So long as I keep paying the ‘rent’ they will never evict me. Best of all once I’ve lived here 25 years they give me the house for free.

All things considered I’m very happy to be renting from the bank.

Yeah we got a 10.year deal when the children were small and interest rates were low. 10 of never worrying about that key cost going up. We are overpaying but that's a choice. The security has been amazing

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 22/07/2025 21:19

So buy outside of London. It's not the only place to live. Buying isn't compulsory and if you're investing elsewhere fine but also factor renting into your old age

Aspanielstolemysanity · 22/07/2025 21:20

Doris86 · 22/07/2025 21:12

Ok so I’m not buying my house, I’m just renting it from the bank?

Well I have to say the bank is the best landlord I’ve ever had. They let me live in peace, never invade my privacy to do inspections. They let me decorate the house however I want, do what I want to it and don’t get funny if I put a few picture hooks up. They don’t care how many pets I have. They don’t raise the ‘rent’ on a whim - I’m locked into a 5 year deal. So long as I keep paying the ‘rent’ they will never evict me. Best of all once I’ve lived here 25 years they give me the house for free.

All things considered I’m very happy to be renting from the bank.

Also, rent round here is about £3000 for a house our size.

Our interest payments are £700 a month, everything else we pay is paying down the capital

Hodgemollar · 22/07/2025 21:22

MyCyanReader · 22/07/2025 16:11

🤦🏼‍♀️

You ONLY own the property if you take a repayment mortgage then you ONLY own the property once the mortgage has been repaid.

The INTEREST on the mortgage is the rent you pay the bank.

The interest on the mortgage is therefore comparable to renting a property.

Tell me you’ve never bought property without telling me you’ve never bought property.

RubySquid · 23/07/2025 23:13

soupyspoon · 22/07/2025 06:38

When I bought my first place it was common to do that, but I didnt do it, as I said, only an idiot would and many got stung

It's what the majority did ( and were encouraged to) though Doesn't make people stupid for following advice Hindsight is a wonderful thing

RubySquid · 23/07/2025 23:22

LakieLady · 22/07/2025 12:42

And in the 80s, people thought a crash would never happen, because prices had risen inexorably for decades.

The crash at the end of that decade was shocking, and prices took around a decade to recover. My house had been valued at £87.5k in 1987, I sold it at the end of 1992 for £49.5k.

If I'd bought in the mid-80s, I'd have been in negative equity for years.

I bought a flat in London in 92/3 . It had originally been £80 off k when built a couple of years previously. I bought as a repossession gor£34 k

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