Thread 9: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

2nd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

3rd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

4th Observer ‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

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We have done amazingly well together - in the main that is, not mentioning any names but you know who you are! - for eight threads so far. I can't be on the threads as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion ticking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

No saltiness. Keep to the path. Thank you.

I agree. And I think these vague origins in real events probably enable RW to justify/excuse/fudge (see what I did there!) in her own mind what she’s written.

eg: presuming the account of the loan at 18% interest and with a charge on their house is accurate, RW probably genuinely did feel aggrieved, and that they were being shafted because obviously that seems an extortionate rate. That fact enables her to feel like a victim, that this horrible man lent them money but on terrible terms. She’s conveniently airbrushed out the fact that the loan was to pay back money she has allegedly stolen, and that she would have willingly entered into that agreement to avoid potential prosecution.

I’ve also been thinking back on that interview with Jason Isaacs (mentioned by a pp) where she gave the usual scripted answers and JI basically said ‘I’ll say it because you can’t: you were conned out of everything.”

now of course the timing of that interview was before the Observer story broke, but after the newspaper had contacted RW
multiple times wanting to talk. Was RW hedging her bets, avoiding being the one to go on live TV saying she’d been conned out of everything, knowing that possibly the truth was coming out imminently? I assume by this stage, she must have spoken with lawyers…. Was she advised to avoid certain topics?

however this plays out next, if the Observer account is true (and as it would have been properly researched and checked by lawyers, and RW hasn’t given a satisfactory rebuttal it seems highly likely it is) then I can’t see how RW can worm out of anything. No amount of ‘artistic license’ can justify what she’s done.

Doesn't it just.

The other thing I'm wondering about is does the papers still doorstep people like they did in the 90s? Obviously I'm not advocating this for them but it's very strange that if @SereneLilac knows their location thanks to their Cornish spy (that's a novel title if ever I've heard one) that the papers are unaware of it and RayMoth haven't had a journo or two knocking on their door. Pretty sure we would've heard about it, even if they just got a "no comment".

Just wondering if there has been some legal letters floating about.

@SereneLilacI also think I know where they are, as do several people I know. SW revealed her location (reluctantly and cryptically) after an event in Cornwall not long before the story broke.
I can’t honestly imagine that the whole village doesn’t know… tho it’s probable the Walkers have at least temporarily vacated.

it may have been my post you saw that named the location - shortly after posting I asked MN to remove it.

It was, yes. I hope I haven't overstepped by referring to it. It's near there, not the village itself.

I'm not so sure. She makes several references in both TSP and TWS to being something of a technophobe. They just had one old brick phone between them on the SWCP, and she was quite resistant to and clueless about promoting TSP on social media.

On the other hand we have to take everything in the books with a pinch of salt (pun intended) and RayMoth appear to be behind the Gangani website so who knows...

Thank you 👍 tbh I only bothered because of the discount code. I could do without eating chocolate 🤣🤣

@SereneLilac. It was up for no more than 5 mins when I realised I’d done something daft and inappropriate.

But yes, pretty sure that’s the location.

Sounds like a backstory to explain why they moved from the orchard....where they were for 4 years!

We know that the Daily Mail did to Bill on the cider farm. They had got wind of what was going to be in The Observer, I think, but he wouldn't also talk to them.

In which case, as @AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta mentioned, surely the press must also know. Maybe it's not a big enough issue for them, or there are indeed legal letters flying around.

Interesting latest Amazon review. If you look under the audible reviews for TSP choosing ' most recent reviews ' first. HOW this book ever got past an editor/editorial team is extraordinary.

I don't know. Brick phone in 2013 (if that's true) doesn't mean there wasn't a laptop, or even desktop, computer in use long before that.

If we accept that she (or he) was Izzy W-T then it all just seems a bit too unlikely that they managed to produce an apparently readable book out of thin air just when they needed it.

Knowing that Martyn (and probably his son) were writing blogs at that time feels like it's something that would have been on SalRay's radar.

Thing is @SereneLilac, if they did know they’d still go to the village regardless, for some
colour. They’d chat to the lady in the village shop, and the publican.

‘People in xxxxxx know Sally Walker as Raynor Winn, but haven’t seen her since xx. Before that they sensed a woman who valued her privacy and so respected that… Her home is a pretty ……. Surrounded by roses … blah blah’
There’s always something to say! So I think it’s possible journalists don’t know. I agree that’s strange though!

I think you've all gone a bit mad. You need some Moore Moments to get you back on track .......

https://www.tiktok.com/@hannah_i_moore/video/7529967790673988897

@exasperatedflatmate

They would, wouldn't they? Hmmm. Curiouser and curiouser 🤔

Could one of their children have written the Gangani stuff?

I have passed on my copy of TSP now but when I re read it recently I could swear the first chapter says that Moth is a nickname from eco activism- real name Ray. Can anyone check?

also could that have been edited out in later editions? It could be a mistake? OR a cunning plan to throw us all off the scent!! Not Tim at all!

I don't think Salray did that webpage as the name of her childhood village was misspelled.

But they would obviously have been involved as it was their house on there!

Still even if you have a blog, creating a url , promoting the draw etc might need some outside help. Not sure I'd know how to do that, or would have done back then at any rate?

If I had to keep moving, and had enough money to not be tied to one area, I’d go off proper travelling. In a van, or extended camping to lovely places.

Can’t find anything on this in the book - just in the Independent article I linked to above.

Not in TSP. I just searched my Kindle version, and the only mention of ‘Ray’ is Raynor or sun rays, and the only mention of eco warrior is Moth reminiscing.

I have just started reading TWS and was surprised by how uneasy RW was around people, but after reading @DisappointedReader 's comment, I realised that there would have also been a gap between having the £9,000 deficit discovered and the NDA coming into force (when the Hemmings were scrutinising the accounts / the police were getting jnitial info about the losses / the Walker's disappearance). At this time, although the Hemmings may have tried to keep it quiet, family, staff, bank staff and police would have probably known and then after the NDA was signed, the Walkers carried on living in the area for about 5 years. I would have been mortified (not that I would have been in that situation) that everyone that I met locally would have known what I had been done / been accused of and was talking behind my back, and so her unease around people becomes a lot more understandable - she thinks that everyone is judging her, even though she probably believes in her own mind that she is innocent.

Or am I just attributing normal honest feelings to a not so honest person?

Don't forget your Fudge bars.

Looking for Ray didn't find him but did confirm it wasn't an Aga!

Hmm. I feel sure it was in there, the first and second times I read it. I don’t think I have read the independent article linked above.
Perhaps mine was an earlier edition. Kindle can edit books stored on your device too.