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Thread 9: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 20/07/2025 00:16

The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...

2nd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

3rd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video

4th Observer ‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...

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Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn

New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting.

To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as this will only encourage them back to the threads.

We have done amazingly well together - in the main that is, not mentioning any names but you know who you are! - for eight threads so far. I can't be on the threads as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion ticking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

No saltiness. Keep to the path. Thank you.

The real Salt Path: what’s in the book, and what The Obse...

The real Salt Path: what’s in the book, and what The Obse...

Raynor and Moth Winn’s redemptive journey from penury and homelessness led to a bestselling book. The truth behind it is very different

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found

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AldoGordo · 20/07/2025 19:59

Songlines · 20/07/2025 19:56

Don't know if this has been discussed already but the Gangani were a 'warlike' tribe from the Lleyn peninsula

Edited

I saw that....my guess is it was a mere leaning into the idea of ancient ancestors, much like how they were drawn to Glastonbury before they started the walk - only to rest a further two weeks on Jan's floor...another bit of the book that never made much sense to me.

mauvishagain · 20/07/2025 20:01

Just an aside and I'm sure it's pure coincidence.

Izzy Wyn-Thomas made a single blog posting on the Goodreads website, which she addressed to Steve, the owner of the local independent bookshop.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6442697.Izzy_Wyn_Thomas

And if you check out the Book Seller, an independent bookshop in Pwllheli (the "local town" to Raymoth when they were just Sally and Tim), it looks like the owner is indeed Steve.

Coincidence, I'm sure.

Izzy Wyn-Thomas

Author of How Not to Dal dy Dir

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6442697.Izzy_Wyn_Thomas

AldoGordo · 20/07/2025 20:08

mauvishagain · 20/07/2025 20:01

Just an aside and I'm sure it's pure coincidence.

Izzy Wyn-Thomas made a single blog posting on the Goodreads website, which she addressed to Steve, the owner of the local independent bookshop.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6442697.Izzy_Wyn_Thomas

And if you check out the Book Seller, an independent bookshop in Pwllheli (the "local town" to Raymoth when they were just Sally and Tim), it looks like the owner is indeed Steve.

Coincidence, I'm sure.

If it is, bet he's regretting not stocking the book...he could have had some remaining copies to flog now.

OpenThatWindow · 20/07/2025 20:12

WartFace · 20/07/2025 19:46

Yes, jam first. Absolutely definitely. Non- negotiable.

Re: lying. Of course, if they admit it and apologise I’d forgive readily. But when you know they’re lying and they know you know … bad news.

This is it - take full responsibility and you'll find a lot of forgiveness (I think it's as good for you as it is others).

But keep yourself in the victim narrative and blame everyone else, that's just a hole you're going to dig deeper into.

I physically couldn't sleep knowing I had a shady past and had written "unflinching truthful" memoir knowing the lies involved. And then a film.

The balls of this woman. Still not sure how much of a say Timothy had. He's quieter, sure, but surely innocent by any means.

(All speculation there, I should say).

bluegreygreen · 20/07/2025 20:13

mauvishagain · 20/07/2025 18:24

Cream first! It's instead of butter, isn't it? And would you put butter on top of jam, or underneath?

See?

Cream first.

Butter. Then jam. Then cream.

(It was the best butter ...)

OpenThatWindow · 20/07/2025 20:14

Who was it that said saying Sally and Tim reminds them of Rosie and Jim?

The bloody song keeps repeating in my head 😂 (giving away my age there)

OpenThatWindow · 20/07/2025 20:18

mauvishagain · 20/07/2025 20:01

Just an aside and I'm sure it's pure coincidence.

Izzy Wyn-Thomas made a single blog posting on the Goodreads website, which she addressed to Steve, the owner of the local independent bookshop.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6442697.Izzy_Wyn_Thomas

And if you check out the Book Seller, an independent bookshop in Pwllheli (the "local town" to Raymoth when they were just Sally and Tim), it looks like the owner is indeed Steve.

Coincidence, I'm sure.

Can't put my finger on exactly why but I don't think that's SW in the photo.

Maybe someone like her but much younger.

Catwith69lives · 20/07/2025 20:18

mauvishagain · 20/07/2025 20:01

Just an aside and I'm sure it's pure coincidence.

Izzy Wyn-Thomas made a single blog posting on the Goodreads website, which she addressed to Steve, the owner of the local independent bookshop.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6442697.Izzy_Wyn_Thomas

And if you check out the Book Seller, an independent bookshop in Pwllheli (the "local town" to Raymoth when they were just Sally and Tim), it looks like the owner is indeed Steve.

Coincidence, I'm sure.

Somerby (not Somersby) is a village near Melton Mowbray in Leicestershire. Just saying....

AldoGordo · 20/07/2025 20:20

OpenThatWindow · 20/07/2025 20:18

Can't put my finger on exactly why but I don't think that's SW in the photo.

Maybe someone like her but much younger.

I see what you mean. And could the wrist accessories indicate someone more youthful?

PullTheBricksDown · 20/07/2025 20:22

OpenThatWindow · 20/07/2025 20:14

Who was it that said saying Sally and Tim reminds them of Rosie and Jim?

The bloody song keeps repeating in my head 😂 (giving away my age there)

Chugging along on the old salt path 😆

Catwith69lives · 20/07/2025 20:25

Somersby, the UK (no such place exists) vs Somerby, village near Melton Mowbray in Leicestershire. Freudian typo?

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LiteralLunatic · 20/07/2025 20:29

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LiteralLunatic · 20/07/2025 20:30

StaySpicy · 20/07/2025 18:59

I like how they had "only" 250,000 copies of Dal Dy Dir to sell... That seems like quite a lot to me!!

I think they NEEDED to sell 250,000 books for the plan to work. I think it gives a clue to how they thought their harebrained scheme would work, anyway.

I assume the book was just a way to get around lottery laws. They didn’t expect the book to sell that well, they expected people would buy it solely to enter the prize draw. The ebook cost £5.

£5 x 250,000 = £1.25 million

After tax, that would just about cover paying off the mortgage and loan (so the property would be free of any charges) and leave them enough to buy a new home of similar value or offer the winner a cash alternative to the house.

I expect the T&Cs specified that the draw would be cancelled if there were less than a certain amount of entries.

mauvishagain · 20/07/2025 20:37

I recently saw a narrowboat on the canal which had a picture on the hull of Rosie and Jim looking very much the worse for wear. The name of the boat was "Rose and Gin".

User14March · 20/07/2025 20:38

@Catwith69lives (NB: I’ve been reading this as ‘catwith69olives’ for some reason) :)

’A Welsh crime thriller where the only dead body is a sheep’ says blurb/a reviewer. Surely the authorship can’t be wildly in dispute? There are only a finite couple of possibilities?

OpenThatWindow · 20/07/2025 20:39

mauvishagain · 20/07/2025 20:37

I recently saw a narrowboat on the canal which had a picture on the hull of Rosie and Jim looking very much the worse for wear. The name of the boat was "Rose and Gin".

😂

OpenThatWindow · 20/07/2025 20:41

AldoGordo · 20/07/2025 20:20

I see what you mean. And could the wrist accessories indicate someone more youthful?

Yes definitely- the stance, the skin, the hair is more 'kept' - just immediately strikes me as someone young.

DisappointedReader · 20/07/2025 20:43

PullTheBricksDown · 20/07/2025 20:22

Chugging along on the old salt path 😆

Don't, we've got a Rosie & Jim fan here, with the little toy narrowboat and tiny figures. I have to sing the song sometimes😆

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mycatismyworld · 20/07/2025 20:51
Interesting review of TSP film
OpenThatWindow · 20/07/2025 20:54

AldoGordo · 20/07/2025 20:20

I see what you mean. And could the wrist accessories indicate someone more youthful?

After a bit of searching I've found a photo of someone the person in the photo could be - I won't say who, it is in the public domain, just to remain respectful to the thread guidelines.

DisappointedReader · 20/07/2025 20:55

They have the right clothes and hairstyles, just the hair colour is wrong.

Coming soon, Book 5, The Canal Path.

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AldoGordo · 20/07/2025 20:56

OpenThatWindow · 20/07/2025 20:41

Yes definitely- the stance, the skin, the hair is more 'kept' - just immediately strikes me as someone young.

Could be anyone tbh. The image they chose intentionally hides the face, which is indicative of hiding something. Much like how the writing expert who analysed RW's statement recognised certain choice phrases that suggested concealment.

Priorlake · 20/07/2025 20:58

DisappointedReader · 20/07/2025 20:55

They have the right clothes and hairstyles, just the hair colour is wrong.

Coming soon, Book 5, The Canal Path.

Oh wow, Jim has the neckerchief and everything!

candycane222 · 20/07/2025 21:05

MarmiteWine · 20/07/2025 19:46

Anyone else curious about the fact that the only comment on this piece that Jack Worthington didn't reply to was from an Edward Hendry? Hendry being the surname used for one of the Gangani parties.

Jack Worthington is a character in The Importance of Being Earnest.

Can I apply to be Oscar Wilde correspondant? Qualifications: lazy and I don't think you'll need me much so I'm well suited to the position, plus I once met Oscar Wilde's son ( - in case boastful name-dropping is also required on this thread 😁)

AldoGordo · 20/07/2025 21:05

OpenThatWindow · 20/07/2025 20:54

After a bit of searching I've found a photo of someone the person in the photo could be - I won't say who, it is in the public domain, just to remain respectful to the thread guidelines.

I think I know who you could be thinking of. Agreed if so. Feel free to DM me.

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