to think that just because you say something about Israel and Gaza does not mean that you should be threatened with arrest under the terrorism act?

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/17/armed-police-threatened-to-arrest-kent-protester-for-holding-palestinian-flag

She had a sign saying "Free Gaza" and "Israel is committing genocide"

She was threatened with arrest under the terrorism act because a certain group that has been deemed to be a terrorist group also share those same views - and therefore the lady was supporting a terrorist group.

In the encounter, which she filmed, one officer told her: “Mentioning freedom of Gaza, Israel, genocide, all of that all come under proscribed groups, which are terror groups that have been dictated by the government.”

He went on to say that the phrase “Free Gaza” was “supportive of Palestine Action”, adding it was an offence “to express an opinion or belief that is supportive of a proscribed organisation, namely Palestine Action is an offence under section 12(1A) of the Terrorism Act”. The officer told her she had committed that offence.

I can think of many groups who share those same beliefs. Having that belief does not mean you support that group.

A Kent police spokesperson said: “Under the Terrorism Act it is a criminal offence to carry or display items that may arouse reasonable suspicion that an individual is a member or supporter of a proscribed organisation such as Palestine Action.”

Have you watched the video?

Judeo-Christians. Heard of that

I've shown you the leglisation
You said that this person had broken the law under this leglisation

So surely it's not to difficult to say why they have broken the law.

You probably think I disagree with you, but I broadly don't.

Those shameful police overreactions during Covid happened because non-adherence to lockdown rules was reframed as having the potential to cause harm. The police could therefore deal with non-violent rulebreakers as if they were putting the public in danger.

Starmer's personality and prior experience will lead him to create more law categorising various types of speech and protest as potentially harmful, and it will be dealt with by the police as such.

Edit: and even worse, creating an open goal for Farage, who I do not support. I think Starmer is a prig, a petty authoritarian, a school prefect, a middle-management arsehole. I think Farage is dodgy in a way that will make us yearn for the clean-cut government of Boris Johnson if he comes to power.

Why are you asking me? Don't you know the police would have had to have complied with PACE? As you're an expert in legislation, I'm sure you know what PACE is.

You said that this person had broken the Terrorism Law.

I have given you the leglisation - so surely it's not too hard for you to explain your thinking

This is your quote.
So what law were you referring to?

You posted the article. Didn't it tell you why they had been arrested? I have remained consistent in that I've got no time for idiots, who cause more harm than good. I'm sure this woman will pursue it if she thinks she's been hard done by. Maybe if she and the hundreds of thousands of other people, who protest knew what was behind the slogans, they would think twice about attaching themselves to them.

Police don't arrest people without cause ffs.

The article says that that they were going to be arrested under the Terrorism Act:

“Mentioning freedom of Gaza, Israel, genocide, all of that all come under proscribed groups, which are terror groups that have been dictated by the government.”

He went on to say that the phrase “Free Gaza” was “supportive of Palestine Action”, adding it was an offence “to express an opinion or belief that is supportive of a proscribed organisation, namely Palestine Action is an offence under section 12(1A) of the Terrorism Act”. The officer told her she had committed that offence.

And if you haven't noticed, people have been saying that saying "Free Gaza" is not expressing an opinion or belief that is supportive of a terrorist organisation.

Otherwise many people would be arrested under that leglisation

Well that's a whole new thread.

Oh you starry eyed moonchild. Of course they do. Remember the protesters at the coronation? They had done absolutely nothing. Everyone gets it wrong at times. The police do too.

Huh? I love free speech, thought that was obvious from my first post.
You seem to be the one against it. You said you were hiding the thread because you didn’t like (and I paraphrase here) the ‘fuckwittery’ and aren’t a ‘gormless fuckwit‘. I have to say your quoted comment is challenging that assertion.

Ha ha starey eyed moonchild . More like Ben -gvir and Daniella Weiss’s love child !

Regardless of your position on Israel/Gaza, its over-reach by the state to arrest someone for expressing an opinion in support of any political aim. However much the state (or the majority of people) might oppose it.

…..“Wayne Couzens handcuffed and arrested Sarah Everard before he raped and strangled her, a court has heard”….

ffs, indeed.

Sorry to quote myself, but in any case, it’s useful to remind myself of the reasons why I don’t usually get involved in threads like this. Because of trolls like you. And the he/she derailing attempt. 🙄. My answer to whether or not humans can change sex, or my answer to who is to blame for the current situation in Gaza, are not the point of this thread. And if they were, they probably wouldn’t deviate from the opinions of those who have espoused these views, and yet that’s how it’s being steered. Pigeons, chess, pigs and wrestling…..

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the tiktok cult, getting behind a terrorist organisation.
Useful idiots, banging the drum for a conflict they can get behind
(cos it allows them to hate Jews, basically)

Indeed, and hence the government did not support the police's action in this case!

Security Minister Dan Jarvis said: “Freedom to protest lawfully is a cornerstone of our democracy.

“Palestine Action’s proscription does not and must not interfere with people’s legitimate right to express support for Palestinians.”

OP can you define what you understand "Free Gaza" to mean?

The answer to that will be the naive one.

The answer to that will be the naive one.

Is that the one where Gaza would be a thriving democracy and it's all Israel's fault that they aren't?