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Green man or person?

108 replies

Tiddybiddy247 · 17/07/2025 20:52

I'm probably going to get crucified for this but I'm asking out of genuine curiosity and here for answers as it were.

Was in town this morning getting ready to cross the road with my toddler and I always say to him "let's wait for the green man" and then we shout "there he is let's go!" And cross the road. This morning another mum arrived next to us and heard me and gave me a kind a dirty look. She turns to her daughter and goes "we need to wait for the green person don't we? " But like with emphasis on the person. I didn't know what to think 🤔 on the one hand she has a point, it could very well be a woman in trousers, but it just doesn't look very feminine... also I've always called it the green man. I suppose I'm terribly old fashioned to be going around assuming genders?

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GonnaeNoDaeThatJustGonnaeNo · 17/07/2025 23:56

It’s a green man.

southernbelles · 17/07/2025 23:56

R0setheHat · 17/07/2025 21:01

Me too, was picturing this

Ditto 😂

CrystalSingerFan · 18/07/2025 00:20

reversegear · 17/07/2025 23:26

Isn’t it funny how we will alway call it the tax man.. I can’t see that one changing.

What about 'those tax bastards'? Works for me. Equal opportunities too.

jcyclops · 18/07/2025 00:20
  1. I was always taught to wait if the man was flashing! With the advent of Puffins and the death of Pelicans, he doesn't flash any longer.

  2. Boston, Lincs:

Green man or person?
Katemax82 · 18/07/2025 00:22

I say green man!! Ffs what's wrong with people?? Postman can be postie but green man is green man!

Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 18/07/2025 00:24

Green pedestrian as an alternative

*I'll get my coat

EBearhug · 18/07/2025 00:35

Catwoman8 · 17/07/2025 23:20

It's the same with gingerbread men now being called gingerbread persons 🙄 It has always been known as the green man where I am.

I made BDSM gingerbread people once. I had great fun with the icing.

Also, I will never be able to go to Berlin again now Ampelman's hat difference has been pointed out.

R0setheHat · 18/07/2025 08:24

Thingsthatgo · 17/07/2025 21:08

@R0setheHatthat photo needs a trigger warning- those green men give me the wiggins!
I quite like the idea of a green person rather than a green man. My children are 13 and 10 years old, and they are much more likely to notice everyday sexism than me.

Especially if you picture that face just slowly forming in a hedge and staring coldly at you. Muhahahaha 😆

T00ManyBooks · 18/07/2025 09:55

Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 18/07/2025 00:24

Green pedestrian as an alternative

*I'll get my coat

I quite like this!!

DiscoBob · 18/07/2025 10:09

This reminds me of when I was young. My mum would try and be really PC, having previously been a bit of a classist snob.

She took to calling the bin men the 'bin people'. I always cringed when she said it. I was like 'Mum, none of them are female. None of them have ever been female. Why can't you just say MEN?'

NotSmallButFunSize · 18/07/2025 10:46

Jesus, who gives a shit??

tinaabbot · 18/07/2025 10:48

Ukholidaysaregreat · 17/07/2025 20:55

O I was hoping for the original green man. Herne the Hunter. 🌿🌳 Nevermind. As you were.

So was I 😆

Lurkingandlearning · 18/07/2025 11:08

If she really cared about her child’s educational development she would refer to the green light that is shaped to represent the outline of a human which indicates it is safe for real people to cross the road once they have ascertained that all approaching vehicles have abided by the traffic light instructing them to stop. Children need to understand the difference between images and reality and the importance of safety vigilance.

You probably didn’t have time to explain that to her, but her child will probably be ok.

Damn I’m sarcastic and grouchy today 🫣

scalt · 18/07/2025 11:38

Here’s the green man who’s had his leg amputated to become a red man.

Green man or person?
Verv · 18/07/2025 11:40

hereismydog · 17/07/2025 20:54

Virtue signalling, performative bollocks.

this.

KilkennyCats · 18/07/2025 11:44

hereismydog · 17/07/2025 20:54

Virtue signalling, performative bollocks.

First post nails it.

nutbrownhare15 · 18/07/2025 11:50

blacksax · 17/07/2025 22:54

You do you. Inanimate objects - fine, although your dc might get a bit of a shock when they start learning other languages and find out they've been calling a load of things by the wrong gender for years.

Teddies and other cuddly toys -why not let the kids decide how to refer to them?

Animals are either male or female. If you see a bull then you are doing your dc a disservice by calling it a she. Same goes for lions, cockerels, rams, peacocks, and any other living creature where there are obvious differences between the sexes.

And other pp's are right - the original Green Cross Code Man was in fact an actual man dressed in green.I was a teenager when that campaign started, and already a feminist. But this - I genuinely can't see what the fuss is all about. No child is going to stand at a crossing waiting for red to change to green and be traumatised because both figures appear to be male.

There are plenty of feminist hills to die on, and this is not one of them.

But you often can't tell if an animal is male or female eg a woodlice and I've noticed around me that the default is always to gender then as male. So I say she as the default as my girls are growing up in a world where the default is always male and do it themselves. If I know it's a male lion obviously I wouldn't do that. And yes I say green person and I don't care what others thinks about that. It's not about the green man it's about the fact that the vast majority of books and TV characters and gendering that my children experience are by default male and I want to do what I can to counter that so they don't think that to be female is to be on the margins.

Hatty65 · 18/07/2025 11:52

I voted YABU for giving this a second's thought. Who gives a shit what some random woman says?

SpeculatingRooks · 18/07/2025 11:55

Oh is that figure green? I hadn't noticed I don't see colour

ZoraBennett · 18/07/2025 11:56

DD is now 12, but it's always Green Bunny thanks to an episode of Bing.

Abra1t · 18/07/2025 12:00

His preferred pronouns are he//him.

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 18/07/2025 12:06

when talking about actual people specific roles - e.g, doctor, police officer, fire fighter etc I absolutely understand the purpose of not defaulting to male, because we obviously want girls to know that they can grow up and take that route also, go for it, equal opportunities in the workplace should be the norm everywhere etc etc.
a traffic signal light though?
nope, no point - it can stay a green man because regardless of sex, she’s never going to be one, so I couldn’t care less what the default is!

ProfessionalOverthinker1 · 18/07/2025 12:08

Did you tell her to fuck off ?
Jesus.... it's the same nonsense as "birthing people" or whatever therm they used now.

SueSuddio · 18/07/2025 12:10

I think we've got peak woke, the mum probably thinks she's bang on but actually she was just being rude to a stranger for no reason at all.

weareallcats · 18/07/2025 12:15

Dontlletmedownbruce · 17/07/2025 23:31

I was in NYC recently with my kids, we usually wait for the 'green man' when crossing the road so I instinctively said this. DC when pointed out the man wasn't green he was white. Something felt very uncomfortable saying 'let's wait for the white man' especially in the US. I found myself genuinely wondering what they call it there. It didn't occur to me it might be a woman.

We were in the US recently too - I changed it to walking man - also gave no thought to the possibility of it being a woman!