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To be surprised that we lost Top of the Pops, Smash Hits and Grange Hill around the same time?

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MillOnTheSaw · 17/07/2025 13:58

These 3 things mentioned in my title were favourites of people of a certain age. I challenge you to guess my age!! The thing that surprises me was that all 3 of these finished for ever at around the same time - mid to late 2000s. I’ll never forget the last ever episode of Top Of The Pops which aired on Sunday 30th July 2006 when Fearne Cotton and Jimmy Savile finally switched off the lights in the TOTP studio.

AIBU to surprised that these 3 beloved media phenomena of my demographic all packed in at the same time?

I MISS THEM 😢

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RealEagle · 17/07/2025 21:14

MillOnTheSaw · 17/07/2025 21:12

Agree about all of this though sadly I didn’t watch Tucker’s luck even though I was the correct demographic

I was born 67 so a bit older than you

MillOnTheSaw · 17/07/2025 21:22

Ursulla · 17/07/2025 21:04

Oh my. That is proper writing for kids. No dumbing down.

I liked Grange Hill in the 80s because it was about things I cared about and could see around me - getting the right options and how difficult that could be in a comprehensive, bullying, neglect. Controversial but I think it jumped the shark with the zammo storyline. Or maybe I just got too old.

Smash Hits was just wonderful. It was completely irreverent and all the in-jokes made you feel like you were in a gang with the cool music journos. Wacka Macca Thumbsaloft, Dame David Bowie, Ben vol-au-vent Perrot etc.

Top of the pops was a weird one. It seemed to me the demographic it was aimed at always thought it was naff - I certainly did by the time I was 13, although I loved it when I was five. But then when they did have eg The Smiths on, we'd all get really proper excited, so we obviously still cared about it. I certainly wouldn't have missed it, even though I spent most of the time I was watching it rolling my eyes, when I was a teenager.

I don’t think Grange Hill jumped the shark with the Zammo storyline - but similar to you I thought it became less popular directly after this.

However for me the reasons for this are different - I thought GH became less popular after this storyline because of Eastenders because when the Zammo storyline came out - Spring of 1986 - Michelle’s pregnancy by Dirty Den was happening in EE. Coincidence that Michelle had previously been Suzanne Ross in GH - both played by Susan Tully! I was 13 then and NO ONE in my class talked about Zammo’s drugs storyline - everyone was on about EE and Michelle’s teenage pregnancy and by Xmas 1986 EE had SOARED in.popularity amongst my class of 13/14 year olds!

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scalt · 17/07/2025 21:27

@MillOnTheSaw i don’t remember which year the referendum comment was, I just remember watching that one recently.

MillOnTheSaw · 17/07/2025 21:42

scalt · 17/07/2025 21:27

@MillOnTheSaw i don’t remember which year the referendum comment was, I just remember watching that one recently.

Great episode !

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Yabberwok · 17/07/2025 21:43

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/07/2025 17:11

We often watch the repeats of TOTP on BBC4 on Friday nights. I am a slow learner. The chart appears and every single week I think 'Wow! This is going to be great. Look at all those classic songs and acts!' and every single week the BBC turns out to have picked the worst, most forgettable songs and acts to feature on the show, or to have got Legs & Co to 'dance' instead of showing a decent act's own performance or video. Extraordinary really. I suppose the really good ones were out on the road touring or back in the studio making yet another hit record and didn't need the exposure on TOTP.

I loved it in my teens in the 1970s and on the odd occasion I caught it in the 80s. However, by the 00s it had probably run its course.

Have you ever listened to pick of the pops on radio 2, it's been shifted around and now on Sunday evening.
1980s will always play the one retro 70s style disco song that made the chart. Never play shakin Stevens who had more top 10 hits than Madonna in the 80s, will play phill Collins/genesis rather than the cure!

Totp was just as bad... just look at the fact that Dexys had JOCKEY Wilson rather than JACKIE Wilson behind them

MillOnTheSaw · 17/07/2025 21:48

Yabberwok · 17/07/2025 21:43

Have you ever listened to pick of the pops on radio 2, it's been shifted around and now on Sunday evening.
1980s will always play the one retro 70s style disco song that made the chart. Never play shakin Stevens who had more top 10 hits than Madonna in the 80s, will play phill Collins/genesis rather than the cure!

Totp was just as bad... just look at the fact that Dexys had JOCKEY Wilson rather than JACKIE Wilson behind them

The Jockey Wilson thing was hilarious!!

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/07/2025 21:53

Yabberwok · 17/07/2025 21:43

Have you ever listened to pick of the pops on radio 2, it's been shifted around and now on Sunday evening.
1980s will always play the one retro 70s style disco song that made the chart. Never play shakin Stevens who had more top 10 hits than Madonna in the 80s, will play phill Collins/genesis rather than the cure!

Totp was just as bad... just look at the fact that Dexys had JOCKEY Wilson rather than JACKIE Wilson behind them

I like Pick of the Pops! Mark Goodier plays a lot more of the chart from each week than TOTP managed.

OonaStubbs · 17/07/2025 21:55

They should do a Grange Hill: The Next Generation.
AFAIK there aren't any TV programmes anymore that realistically depict kids at secondary school, which is a crying shame.

MillOnTheSaw · 17/07/2025 21:57

OonaStubbs · 17/07/2025 21:55

They should do a Grange Hill: The Next Generation.
AFAIK there aren't any TV programmes anymore that realistically depict kids at secondary school, which is a crying shame.

Not Waterloo Road?

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clary · 17/07/2025 21:58

I worked at Smash Hits for a couple of years in the early 1990s, what a great time. Happy days.

Tbf tho its USP was the lyrics and by the early 2000s you could get them online eh. When it closed loads of people rang me up to tell me – “yes I know. And I don’t work there any more! Grin

MillOnTheSaw · 17/07/2025 22:00

clary · 17/07/2025 21:58

I worked at Smash Hits for a couple of years in the early 1990s, what a great time. Happy days.

Tbf tho its USP was the lyrics and by the early 2000s you could get them online eh. When it closed loads of people rang me up to tell me – “yes I know. And I don’t work there any more! Grin

Oh that must’ve been a fabulous experience 🙌

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clary · 17/07/2025 22:01

@MillOnTheSaw yes it was great. Loads of free stuff, met the stars, but most of all worked with a team of amazing talented people (some of whom are now almost famous).

Jaws2025 · 17/07/2025 22:03

The Grangehill theme is thumping about in my head now

MillOnTheSaw · 17/07/2025 22:05

clary · 17/07/2025 22:01

@MillOnTheSaw yes it was great. Loads of free stuff, met the stars, but most of all worked with a team of amazing talented people (some of whom are now almost famous).

And of course didn’t Neil Tennant work there ?

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Scorchio84 · 17/07/2025 22:05

Pebbles16 · 17/07/2025 17:23

I always think "how much hairspray was used in the 1980s"?
Wasn't allowed to watch Grange Hill at home (but Grandma let me), Smash Hits was THE BEST. Learning all those lyrics.

My sister (1972) bought Smash Hits religiously, same as her friends, I think I remember Grange Hill being on in the background but yeah the lyrics in Smas Hits were a must have for TOPT on a Thursday 😄

clary · 17/07/2025 22:08

MillOnTheSaw · 17/07/2025 22:05

And of course didn’t Neil Tennant work there ?

yes but that was before my time tbh. I met him tho, what a very smart guy.

Scorchio84 · 17/07/2025 22:09

@Yabberwok oh my god the Jocky Wilson TOTP's mistake is still one of the funniest things ever! I was too young at the time but it's been featured in so many pop culture shows & quizes over the years it actually feels like I lived through it 😂I wonder was it an intern? Or maybe a disgruntled emplyee on the way out the door? Either way it was & is comedy gold

Scorchio84 · 17/07/2025 22:11

clary · 17/07/2025 22:08

yes but that was before my time tbh. I met him tho, what a very smart guy.

No way!!! I love the Pet Shop Boys, was he nice?

MillOnTheSaw · 17/07/2025 22:11

clary · 17/07/2025 22:08

yes but that was before my time tbh. I met him tho, what a very smart guy.

Aw Fab! Always thought he would be

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MillOnTheSaw · 17/07/2025 22:12

Scorchio84 · 17/07/2025 22:09

@Yabberwok oh my god the Jocky Wilson TOTP's mistake is still one of the funniest things ever! I was too young at the time but it's been featured in so many pop culture shows & quizes over the years it actually feels like I lived through it 😂I wonder was it an intern? Or maybe a disgruntled emplyee on the way out the door? Either way it was & is comedy gold

Or did they think the joke would go over our heads ?

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Scorchio84 · 17/07/2025 22:13

Oh that's a good point @MillOnTheSaw do you think Dexy's were in on it? They never seemed to have a sense of (style) humour 😆

clary · 17/07/2025 22:16

Scorchio84 · 17/07/2025 22:11

No way!!! I love the Pet Shop Boys, was he nice?

Yes he was very nice and just very clever. Man with his finger on the pulse – that's why the PSBs were so successful. So many clever people working there tbh.

Scorchio84 · 17/07/2025 22:17

Wow @clary it's sounds like you were there at the peak time! What an experience it must have been

clary · 17/07/2025 22:21

Scorchio84 · 17/07/2025 22:17

Wow @clary it's sounds like you were there at the peak time! What an experience it must have been

haha well not really. Peak was Kylie and Jason a few years earlier, when we sold like 800,000 copies a fortnight. Astonishing thought. When I was there a good issue was 300,000 plus I think. But it was the time of TT and East 17 and bands like Primal Scream and Suede.

Yabberwok · 17/07/2025 22:25

MillOnTheSaw · 17/07/2025 22:12

Or did they think the joke would go over our heads ?

It's never been explained however I have a theory or two. Firstly around that time the video editors put together a Christmas tape for their gang. They would refuse to do things unless big stars said happy Christmas vt and put in their own gags. Or it was a typical BBC type employee...good school, good uni, the DG knew his father...so they stick him where he can't do any damage... unfortunately he knows nothing about music and has never heard of Jackie Wilson.

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