16 & 17 year olds to be given the vote

[Whereishenow]

Just seen this announcement on BBC now. Amazing news!!! Now we just need to try and get youngsters out USING those votes.

Sure. But what exactly did you have to pay? Pretty much nothing except loving costs right? Also like a PP said I don't know anyone who's parents pay for them through uni so not sure you're correct in thinking it's any different with regards parents paying than it ever was. Just that you get more debt now

@soupyspoon I think it's bigger assumption that they would have voted for leave. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I was more talkinga bout the infantilisation of them, not whether they are political or not. By the time I went to Uni (completely out of character for our family where leaving school at 15 was the norm) I had been living independently for a couple of years and worked throughout. My parents certainly didnt have the money to pay but neither would I expect them to

So how much did you pay? FYI the government now expects parents to pay...

i'm a millennial who worked throughout uni & for a year beforehand, I'm not an unusual case. The difference is my loan was 3k a year and my rent was 2.9k a year. Things are a tad more expensive now...

''Last year the the Scottish Sentencing Council recommended an "individualistic approach" for under 25s...
The council said its decision was based on scientific evidence that the brain is not fully developed below that age.''

www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-60137866

I had a loan and then living costs and accommodation costs on top. I worked more or less full time to pay for that.

But that isnt my point, its about infantislisation, thread after thread about parents paying accommodation, living costs etc etc shows its not unusual.

But that isnt my point, it's about infantislisation, thread after thread about parents paying accommodation, living costs etc etc shows it's not unusual.

Why does parents contributing to uni equal
infantilisation? Particularly when student finance is based on parental income?

Well I responded to this post, not your subsequent posts. I think you need to work on your writing skills, the post is rude and is poorly executed. Evidenced by the fact you had to explain yourself in additional posts.

CBA to engage with this nonsense any more. You're stating your opinion as fact. And it's also irrelevant since uni students can already vote anyway.

Erm this is a chat forum, where we all give opinions, just like yours.

Because you're either an adult and go off and do adult things which you self fund or you're not.

And your last sentence is the entire point Im making!!

I am quite surprised to see so many think that young people will vote for Reform. Where I am, the young people are far more left-wing. I guess it may depend on your area and social circle etc.

I think it's positive. All the parties, including Reform and the Tories, will now develop more policies that appeal to young people. About time.

anecdotally, younger people are quite conservative, often with a big C.

Not in my experience.

Exactly this. It's about time that young people were considered more.

And even if they are, that isn’t in itself a reason to deny them the vote.

i don’t think I’ve ever voted for a party right of the Lib Dems. But I do get tired of people here thinking left / liberal = good, right / conservative = bad. It isn’t that simple.

(That last paragraph isn’t aimed at the poster I’m quoting, just to be clear!)

I am happy for parties to ‘seduce’ young people with better housing, education, pay etc. I reckon it could be better for everyone in the end.

Because you're either an adult and go off and do adult things which you self fund or you're not.

So because I live at home for cheap rent to save, I'm not an adult?

What are adult things?

I think it's positive. All the parties, including Reform and the Tories, will now develop more policies that appeal to young people. About time.

Agree

lived at home that should say

I specifically said in my first post thats not the reason I disagree with the proposal, but Ive worked with young people in a number of different regions of the south east and several London boroughs (not the whole UK) for nearly 30 years now and found generally speaking they lean to the right more often than not.

It’s absolutely ridiculous if a 16 year old doesn’t know about those things. If your teenager doesn’t know about politics, educate them. I have a 15 year old, him and his friends watch the news and talk about current affairs (as well as the usual teenage stuff.) Him and his friends are mostly looking to study politics or economics for a level. They are also interested in history and how it relates to current events.

16 year olds are not children, they are young adults, we should be encouraging their interest in the world and encouraging them to form opinions and voice them.

I specifically said in my first post thats not the reason I disagree with the proposal, but Ive worked with young people in a number of different regions of the south east and several London boroughs (not the whole UK) for nearly 30 years now and found generally speaking they lean to the right more often than not.

Not my experience at all.

although I'm not as old as you

why do they turn more left leaning at 18 @soupyspoon?