16 & 17 year olds to be given the vote

[Whereishenow]

Just seen this announcement on BBC now. Amazing news!!! Now we just need to try and get youngsters out USING those votes.

A change to voting rights hasn't suddenly altered human physiological development.

No cognitive decline here, you cheeky bugger! 😂

Any party who brings this in is basically saying ‘we know our policies won’t withstand the scrutiny of sage grown ups, so we’ll have to go for the folk that can be brainwashed.’

Don't take my comments out of context. I was replying to another PP when I said: 'Don't put words in my mouth. I did not say they are doing things they were not elected on. I said they have not delivered on the majority of pledges they were elected on, which is a fact.' Because I had NOT said that at that point in the debate.

My comment of: 'It's more about what they have done and said they wouldn't do.' Came after that pp had made her accusation. Do you understand how chronological order works?

insane idea. No way should anyone be choosing a government who is not deemed legally capable of driving/smoking/drinking/leaving full time education etc etc

You contradicted yourself in two posts one after another. At least have the decency to own it. We can all read.

Yes any port in a storm for Labour

You can't know that.

100% !! I've been saying for years that the ability to learn about political process and engage in political discourse is VITAL on the NC.

And, it could absolutely be made interesting and engaging for kids - in what world wouldn't the majority of people want to partake in shaping the world they live in for positive benefit?

The more kids who get involved and realise that they CAN make a difference - for themselves, their friends and family, local community and outwardly farther - the better. I also think that more local and community issues is where it should start - a grassroots beginning in local politics: from the parish council upwards - giving kids the opportunity to interact with political process at the lowest level in order to build an thorough understanding of it as it progresses through the ranks.

And join the army at 16!

And there is no proof that the 25 thing exists.

How Britons voted in 2024 by education level

Education remains a strong indicator of how someone voted, with Labour doing a lot better than the Conservatives amongst those who have a university degree (42% to 18%). By contrast, the Tories performed marginally better than Labour amongst those whose highest level of education attained is GCSEs or lower (31% to 28%).

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49978-how-britain-voted-in-the-2024-general-election

And in Scotland they let 17 year olds rape kids and walk free. Grand system up there eh? Flawless!

The legal age for marriage in England and wales has been 18 since February 2023

I find it so very intriguing how some people take pride in being ageist.

Same, but in the last few months I'm starting to see why the boomers get so much criticism.

This is relevant to marriage laws and voting rights how, precisely?

And there is no proof that the 25 thing exists

Short of cutting someone open, vivisecting their brain, reinserting it, and going back to do the same thing at a later point in their life, what "proof" would satisfy you?

I did not contradict myself. I was accused of saying something that I hadn't said at the point of the accusation. So I pointed out that I hadn't said such a thing.

I then made a comment similar to what I was being accused of AFTER the accusation, where I did say such a thing.

If you can read, I suggest you go back and do so.

Oh, the irony!

They do not see combat- the training in the Forces for under 18’s is heavily safeguarded- internationally, the are regarded as “child soldiers “

16 year olds have full capacity and are at the end of compulsory full time education. It is 16 and 17 year olds who will have to live longest with the consequences of any given vote. I think it's completely appropriate for them to have the vote.

Because it shows that Scottish laws support rapists and having laws that support rapists is wrong.

I prefer to look at the research myself of both sides instead of someone saying one thing and blindly nodding and believing.

I reckon it could backfire spectacularly. It'll be fringe parties on either end of the spectrum that will benefit.

@BIossomtoes is it ironic? look at the attitude on this thread re giving young people the vote. I haven't seen one decent argument against it, although I am sure there is some. There is such contempt for young people & lazy stereotypes, by posters who are then labelling others ageist.

Ageism is prejudice against people based on their age it's not just prejudice against old age...

They can't be named in reports of court proceedings (although a judge can override that) but they can certainly be charged.