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Why is office politics ignored in formal education when it can help shapes careers as powerfully as Porter’s Five Forces ?

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Swirlythingy2025 · 16/07/2025 16:39

Basically that really , from school you get taught do your role well , achieve x projects or this that and the other and in theroy rise the ranks but in reality depending on the company it can also depend on who you talk to etc.
also been watching the shows billions and sucession that have also influenced the creation of the thread

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theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 16/07/2025 20:33

Swirlythingy2025 · 16/07/2025 17:44

not the office politics as such, when i did my business degree they never said about the fellow collegues etc and how important it is to network with them

Well if you managed to get to university, then your lecturers would assume you knew that - it’s a very basic life skill.

But anyway, it can be covered in a couple of sentences.

Being really good at it is harder, and yes a more privileged upbringing helps you pick up
those skills, but I really don’t think teachers have time to teach them.

SuffolkBargeWoman · 16/07/2025 20:38

I imagine many kids at private schools learn this from their parents and visiting speakers from alumni.

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I think what OP is pointing at is the inherent advantages that privately educated or state educated middle class children have.
They grow up knowing how to network, make small talk, the right table manners, the right hobbies. All the things that are a gateway to success.
OP is right that someone should be filling those gaps for children without those advantages, not sure who though.

Goldenbear · 16/07/2025 20:39

It seems odd to ask schools to teach office politics they don't really have that kind of work culture so how can they teach it? Teachers are teaching specific subjects on their own, in a classroom with some TAs perhaps, how does that emulate office life, where office politics is more an organic thing derived from the working dynamic of people who are adults in an office job,? Isn't school about receiving an education, delivered by people who can teach a specific subject? Equally, office politics is mostly relevant to offices, what about getting on in other jobs?

Goingawayistricky · 16/07/2025 20:40

I think it’s pretty common knowledge that being nice to the people that make your job easier being the post room, the cleaner or reception will be helpful.
Plus every job has a person who will happily tell you who you should keep
in with.

Other than that theres so much neuro diversity training now people are aware that the non chatty members of staff are just as valued.

Goingawayistricky · 16/07/2025 20:41

Actually @Goldenbear made a better point.

spoonbillstretford · 16/07/2025 20:43

I'm a senior director and have never been into office politics. I wouldn't work for a big corporate if you doubled my salary.

Swirlythingy2025 · 17/07/2025 12:39

SuffolkBargeWoman · 16/07/2025 20:38

I imagine many kids at private schools learn this from their parents and visiting speakers from alumni.

This
I think what OP is pointing at is the inherent advantages that privately educated or state educated middle class children have.
They grow up knowing how to network, make small talk, the right table manners, the right hobbies. All the things that are a gateway to success.
OP is right that someone should be filling those gaps for children without those advantages, not sure who though.

well put, basically this is what i was trying to discuss

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