To think that there is little room for nuance and ambiguity in the public discourse these days?

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I just find in todays culture you either have to be all for or all against something and that their is no room for complexity or nuance anymore. Even if you try to put across a nuanced position something people just hear or read one thing seize on that ignoring everything else.

I think we are facing so many serious issues that we will never solve unless we can have a proper nuance conversation, is that so unreasonable?

I suppose it does depend on specific situations really. There are some that have a very clear right and wrong (despite what some people may think) and trying to find complexity and nuance where it’s impossible to reasonably do so may seem rigid and closed to some.

What kind of issues are you talking about?

Absolutely!

You can't now say something that is true without people extrapolating that into something else eg I said Trump may win as he is popular with some, therefore I must be a fan! I recently said on an ageing population thread that we either need to accept immigration isn't going anyway or pay more taxes as that's all the government will offer. Apparently this means I want an ever growing population and was asked exactly how many millions of people I want to invite in. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@belladeli Exactly and its difficult to write in detail exploring every nuance as it would then be an essay. I supposed it is partly due to more discourse being online now rather than in person as we can't see expressions or answer questions on what we said. Online people are also typically less responsive and more on the attack or defensive which can limit the conversation.

@TidyDancer Well I suppose it does get difficult to talk about this without examples which I was trying to avoid as it then potentially turns into a debate about the examples as opposed to the lack of space for complexity in contemporary discourse. Part of it might be the ability to say things that have become a sort of taboo without demonising anyone and then being able to put that within a context which illuminates the conditions which lead to a particular event in order to prevent it happening again. There, clear as mud without an example.