Was it the chicken or the wine?

[baulers]

About a month ago I had some chicken legs and some wine and the following day I had excruciating pain in my upper abdomen all day, it came and went in waves.

Looking it up it sounded like either Campylobacter from the children or pancreatitis from the wine.
Fast forward a month and I had some more chicken and wine and the next day got exactly the same pain for the whole day.
Is it more likely to be the chicken or the wine?

It won't be campylobacter if it was the next day. When I had it public health said I think 2-10 days incubation. They asked me all about what and where I had eaten in the week or so previously but explicitly were not interested in the day before.

I guarantee you did not have campylobacter, having had it - its the most awful thing ever. Its more than a few stomach spasms, its absolutely horrendous and tmi but you get green diarrhoea amongst other things. The pain is 100 times worse than labor and lasts around 2 weeks. (Well it did for me)

I reckon your body is not used to eating both together. I am assuming you checked the chicken to ensure it was hot and no pink too

Sorry if I missed it but are you talking about having a glass of wine while eating chicken or is it chicken cooked in a white wine sauce. Could it be the cream and wine combined if it is the latter?

Also, what Simplelobsterhat said, its a good few days to a week before campylobacter starts - mine was approx 1 week after eating uncooked chicken

Some red wine has a lot of preservatives, my DH can get a bad reaction to the preservatives in some wines that causes stomach pain and sometimes an asthma attack. Check the ingredients on the bottle, or someone keeps under cooking the chicken and bacteria are causing an upset stomach. BBQ chicken is often a culprit when it's well browned but not cooked through.

Campolybacter seems unlikely, it would last days and make you very ill. I ended up in hospital for three days with it. Pancreatitis again would be worse than that. It seems like perhaps you are googling and catastrophising something that was most likely an intolerance or random stomach ache!

Highly unlikely to be pancreatitis, this in inflammation of the pancreas which lasts for days and quite often leads to a hospital
admission! Sounds far more like reflux, don’t use AI apps, in my opinion they should be banned!

My vote is the gallbladder - I’d go and get it checked out. Sometimes it can be weird things that set it off - crisps or red meat or something spicy or just something a bit rich… they just need to ultrasound it and see if you’ve got stones/inflammation

Agree it might be GERD, white wine would likely set it off as it's very acidic. I used to get really bad pain just below my ribcage and was eventually diagnosed with it, I couldn't believe acid reflux could be so painful. Thankfully, omeprazole sorted me out and I seem to have grown out of it now.

@Keepyourheartopenandyoureyeswideshut

If you would like to keep eating chicken but are worried about the amine level, there is a way to give it a go. Amines increase as proteins break down as your meat products age. The idea is to source and cook the meat before the amine level increases beyond your tolerance. They are also present in a number of fruit and vegetables.

https://www.fedup.com.au/factsheets/factsheets-by-symptom/irritable-bowel-symptoms-ibs

1). Source chicken on the day of or the day after slaughter.
2). Immediately you get home, discard the skin and cook what you need to quickly and without browning. Poaching or flour, egg and breadcrumbs and into the oven. Eat immediately.
3). Freeze in portions the remaining chicken for a maximum of I think two weeks. Defrost quickly just before cooking as above.

Your stomach probably has too much acid. I have this reaction to alcohol when my GERD flares up

Well, I have never eaten any children myself, but I'm pretty sure that could be more problematic than the wine. 😆

This is ridiculous , why do you need a forum to tell you to 1) see a DR and 2) try each separately and see which is the problem?

I hope you didn't get Campylobacter from eating children, sounds like you deserved it in that case.

Campylobacter is food poisoning, and a nasty strain at that. You wouldn’t have stomach pain for one day with that, and without the world pouring from both ends.

Also, this whole thread is why it's important to just do a rudimentary Google search on whether or not any of your AI diagnosed choices are actually viable. Of course intense stomach pain could be any of those things but it clearly isn't.
Gallbladder maybe but only if it keeps happening. It's a one off currently so don't worry about it.

IBS?

A few glasses of wine is unlikely to cause pancreititis.

I’d say gallbladder !
I get it when I eat gammon !
do u fast ? Lost weight recently?
That can spark the gallbladder attacks x

The wine. I got gastritis from wine once. It was horrible.

Another vote in favour of getting a possibly grumpy gallbladder checked out.

There is a lot of saturated fat in chicken legs and that can set off a gallbladder attack that is rather painful. The diarehea can sometimes happen if you get a bile dump from said grumpy gallbladder in espouse to eating that bit too much fat. Wine softens meat and may release fat stored within meat.

From experience of both a grouchy gallbladder and pancreatitis With pancreatitis the pain is beyond anything a grumpy gallbladder can throw at you and it makes you so ill you may think you are dying ( which you easily can without urgent medical help)

It sounds like IBS.

It can come on any stage in life, for no particular reason and certain foods can trigger it.

E.g. I can drink milk based products fine for years then have a period of time where it is completely intolerable.

And yes, it can be really painful. I was at the A&E thinking something was seriously wrong, as I had severe stomach cramps and horrible bloating.

Edit: To add, I have had campylobacter poisoning before, and it makes you really really ill, sick and the runs from both ends and sick for at least a week. I had this years ago, ended up in hospital with severe dehydration. I ended up losing 2 stone in a month and wasnt fully recovered for about 6 weeks.

If it was campylobacter you’d know about it! Symptoms develop around 48 hrs of exposure and you can get diarrhoea, vomiting and extreme pain along with a high fever……think you’d know about that don’t you?

Most likely you’ve developed a sensitivity to the wine……..acid reflux came to mind as that is very painful but best to try each commodity on its own and take it from there.

My mum got compylobacter on holiday. I have never seen her so ill. Sounds more gallbladder from what you describe.

I had horrible gallbladder pains (got it removed eventually, has been fine since) and personally I never saw a link with eating fatty food and an attack. Although that is the norm.

I thought it was heartburn or something, having never experienced that. Took me ages to get it looked at as gallstones - definitely worth checking it out.