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When did the narrative around warm weather change?

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Katypp · 13/07/2025 18:37

It used to be considered a lovely thing if we had a warm summer. Older people (me!) have happy memories of summer 76 and endless days playing outside in shorts during the holidays.
No it seems to be considered a bad thing, with people complaing about the heat, getting agitated about children going to school or even going outside at all. Weather forecasters wanging on about 'staying hydrated' as if we are children and delivering the forecasts as if it is a bad thing that we can enjoy nice weather for once.
Why are we so joyless, sucking on to bottles of water as if they were dummies and seemingly afraid to venture outside in case we self-combust.
Yes i know ow global warming and skin cancer but our reaction to a pleasant day is somewhat OTT i think.

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Summerbean · 15/07/2025 20:37

I'm old too, absolutely hated the summer of 1976. It was stiflingly hot, people were suffering from heatstroke and there were water shortages. I don't like very hot weather, much prefer cooler days and always have.

TheWildZebra · 15/07/2025 20:42

GasPanic · 15/07/2025 20:36

have you noticed there’s a hosepipe ban across many parts of the UK because we’ve had the driest spring and summer in over 100 years. All this made so much more likely because of our changing climate

Well that and the fact the water industry keeps pissing away water by failing to fix the leaks and dig new reservoirs for the hundreds of thousands of people piling into the country while paying themselves fat bonuses instead.

Both can be true at the same time. Water companies poor management doesn’t eliminate the fact that we are in drought.

and yes, I am an angry Thames water customer who wishes they would just fucking bring it into public ownership!

WestwardHo1 · 15/07/2025 20:49

Both can be true at the same time. Water companies poor management doesn’t eliminate the fact that we are in drought. Exactly what I was trying to say earlier. There being leaks doesn't mean people shouldn't try and conserve water. It's not a limitless resource just because you're a customer and pay for it.

5128gap · 15/07/2025 20:59

We associate the heat with bad things like global warming. We associate the sun with bad things like skin cancer. We are hyper aware of dangers to our health from overheating/dehydration due to media messaging about dangers of overheating/dehydration. Smaller homes and gardens, more people crowded in everywhere and more pollution makes being outside less pleasant. We are fatter and older than we were in 1976.

scalt · 15/07/2025 21:30

It’s rained today in London, on St Swithun’s day. So we’re guaranteed forty days of rain. Are the sun haters happy now?

MasterBeth · 15/07/2025 21:52

Pinepeak2434 · 15/07/2025 16:11

It depends how you define ‘hotter.’ Over what time scale? Compared to what baseline? A lot of charts start in the 1850s, right after the Little Ice Age, of course it’s warmer now than then. But if you look at historical climate trends over thousands of years, this isn’t shocking. What is shocking is how aggressively we're told to panic, while ignoring historical context and uncertainty in climate modelling.

So the settled consensus of the world's climate scientists is that carbon emissions since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution have led to accelerated climate change, but Pinepeak2434 on Mumsnet has her own yoonique take. Good work, Professor.

MasterBeth · 15/07/2025 22:05

GasPanic · 15/07/2025 18:46

It will be a bit of a bummer though if non of that stuff actually happens.

This is the problem with Project Fear.

It's not like governments don't have form for it.

I think climate change is a really interesting problem. Maybe the first problem we have that is on a timescale longer than our political systems operate, and also on a timescale longer than many people alive today will live.

Will human beings be like bacteria in a petri dish and just use up all the resources and die ?

Or will they succeed in managing their way out of the problem ? And how with the competition for resources pan out, how will those resources be distributed ?

I doubt I am going to be around to find out.

How would it be a bummer if none of that happened? It would be fantastic!

The best case scenario we have at our current state of global heating is a permanently altered planet where we have to disrupt the way we live to cope with more and more extreme weather events, fires, floods, tidal disruption, the death of many species because we moved to netflix zero too late. The worst case scenario is a global climate systems collapse where the habitable, temperate areas of our planet shrink to such extent that billions and billions die.

You might not be around to find out. Imagine the wars, famine, suffering and human misery that would cause for our children's or grandchildren's generations.

Azdcgbjml · 15/07/2025 23:32

Pinepeak2434 · 15/07/2025 16:11

It depends how you define ‘hotter.’ Over what time scale? Compared to what baseline? A lot of charts start in the 1850s, right after the Little Ice Age, of course it’s warmer now than then. But if you look at historical climate trends over thousands of years, this isn’t shocking. What is shocking is how aggressively we're told to panic, while ignoring historical context and uncertainty in climate modelling.

I think it looks pretty shocking on this graph, source

When did the narrative around warm weather change?
MasterBeth · 16/07/2025 10:40

MasterBeth · 15/07/2025 22:05

How would it be a bummer if none of that happened? It would be fantastic!

The best case scenario we have at our current state of global heating is a permanently altered planet where we have to disrupt the way we live to cope with more and more extreme weather events, fires, floods, tidal disruption, the death of many species because we moved to netflix zero too late. The worst case scenario is a global climate systems collapse where the habitable, temperate areas of our planet shrink to such extent that billions and billions die.

You might not be around to find out. Imagine the wars, famine, suffering and human misery that would cause for our children's or grandchildren's generations.

Netflix zero!! (Can't edit any more...)

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