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Calling all fox experts

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ForestryForever · 12/07/2025 22:49

There must be a fox expert among us.
If you are one, here's a question I need to know the answer to:
Could a fox, or perhaps more than 1 fox, drink 150 litres of water over 4 nights??
Because I've got a 250 litre fresh pond, lovely clean water in it, no fish or any reptile living in it, it is sitting waiting in preparation for fish, and over the past 4 days it has gone from 250 litres of water full to the brim, to just under 100 litres of water left today. Every morning over the past 4 days it has dropped significantly in volume.
It's in a quiet, shady corner in the garden, under a tree, out of sight from the house, and our garden is pitch black at night (rural village with no street lighting).
There is no way that volume of water has evaporated in 4 days. There is no direct sun on it ever, and the loss of vume has happened over night each night, not during the day. We've been monitoring the water loss carefully. So it simply has not evaporated 150 litres in 4 days.
Today we removed the pond (pre formed pond), cleaned it out, stood it on the patio, filled it up with water and watched to see if there's a leak......no leak. 10 hours later it's still sitting on the patio as full as a bath. No decrease in volume whatsoever.
So how the hell have we lost 150 litres of water over 4 nights?!
Can foxes drink that much???
I'm in the SE and we are having very hot, dry weather.
And if it's not foxes, what on earth is happening? It's quite badly freaking me out.

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ChoccieCornflake · 12/07/2025 22:56

Nope, no way. You sure it's not evaporation? Water is evaporating like it's going out of fashion at the moment!

ChoccieCornflake · 12/07/2025 22:57

Deer? A whole herd of them maybe?

businessflop25 · 12/07/2025 22:58

It’s called evaporation! Tends to happen in these hot conditions!
a fox will drink max 1 litre a day probably much less.

ForestryForever · 12/07/2025 23:01

ChoccieCornflake · 12/07/2025 22:56

Nope, no way. You sure it's not evaporation? Water is evaporating like it's going out of fashion at the moment!

It just cannot be evaporation.
Its impossible.
Its 100% shaded under a tree.
No direct sunlight.
No.
And the volume only reduced overnight. Not during the day. We were monitoring the loss.
Nope.
150 lites of water doesn't evaporated during the night under a tree in 4 nights.

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ForestryForever · 12/07/2025 23:01

ChoccieCornflake · 12/07/2025 22:57

Deer? A whole herd of them maybe?

No deers here.

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icouldholditwithacobweb · 12/07/2025 23:01

No...how would a fox's body even hold that much water?!

It's evaporating some for sure, but if you're very rural probably plenty of wildlife is taking advantage overnight. Get a wildlife cam and let us know what you see!

ForestryForever · 12/07/2025 23:02

businessflop25 · 12/07/2025 22:58

It’s called evaporation! Tends to happen in these hot conditions!
a fox will drink max 1 litre a day probably much less.

Not 150 litres in 4 nights
NIGHTS
The volume was not reducing in the day
Only over night

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EmeraldRoulette · 12/07/2025 23:03

Sorry, but my first thought is that somebody's siphoning off your water

Are you in a hose pipe ban area?

TaborlinTheGreat · 12/07/2025 23:03

Is it not much more likely you have a leak in your pond liner? The ground will be very dry at the moment, so the water would be absorbed pretty quickly. And no a fox couldn't drink that much!

BMW6 · 12/07/2025 23:03

Lots of foxes perhaps? Other wildlife that is nocturnal also drinking it?

A neighbour coming over your fence and stealing it to water their garden for free?

Yoyokitten · 12/07/2025 23:05

It would have to be an elephant to drink that much !!

ForestryForever · 12/07/2025 23:06

icouldholditwithacobweb · 12/07/2025 23:01

No...how would a fox's body even hold that much water?!

It's evaporating some for sure, but if you're very rural probably plenty of wildlife is taking advantage overnight. Get a wildlife cam and let us know what you see!

Yes I'm considering this!

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ForestryForever · 12/07/2025 23:07

EmeraldRoulette · 12/07/2025 23:03

Sorry, but my first thought is that somebody's siphoning off your water

Are you in a hose pipe ban area?

I thought this too but then thought I'm being paranoid.
Hosepipe ban hasn't kicked in yet - coming next week.

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ForestryForever · 12/07/2025 23:08

BMW6 · 12/07/2025 23:03

Lots of foxes perhaps? Other wildlife that is nocturnal also drinking it?

A neighbour coming over your fence and stealing it to water their garden for free?

Edited

Ohhhhhhhh ....... maybe!!!!
We're all on water metres.....gardens are all dry as a bone........
Oh my God!!!

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ForestryForever · 12/07/2025 23:09

TaborlinTheGreat · 12/07/2025 23:03

Is it not much more likely you have a leak in your pond liner? The ground will be very dry at the moment, so the water would be absorbed pretty quickly. And no a fox couldn't drink that much!

Did you read my post to the end.....

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ForestryForever · 12/07/2025 23:11

businessflop25 · 12/07/2025 22:58

It’s called evaporation! Tends to happen in these hot conditions!
a fox will drink max 1 litre a day probably much less.

A family of foxes? Lots of them?
Don't they tell each other where there's water?

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BMW6 · 12/07/2025 23:11

ForestryForever · 12/07/2025 23:08

Ohhhhhhhh ....... maybe!!!!
We're all on water metres.....gardens are all dry as a bone........
Oh my God!!!

Night vision camera needed then.........

wwyd2021medicine · 12/07/2025 23:12

Yoyokitten · 12/07/2025 23:05

It would have to be an elephant to drink that much !!

I think a camel is more likely

TiptoeThroughTheToadstools · 12/07/2025 23:13

You obviously have a leak...

PickAChew · 12/07/2025 23:17

Foxes are much smaller than you. Could you drink that much water?

DiscoBob · 12/07/2025 23:19

I think someone's pinching it. If everyone is on a meter and they know there's a ban coming up. The fact it's secluded, they probably think nobody would notice and would assume animals/evaporation. Of which they will be some. But not that much.

You're going to need to get a camera or sit out all night listening for any movement!

There's a chance some poor person in dire straits was using it to bathe or drink. But it's more likely just to water their plants. Or maybe try and fill a hot tub/small pool for free?

BMW6 · 12/07/2025 23:19

TiptoeThroughTheToadstools · 12/07/2025 23:13

You obviously have a leak...

No, she's tested that as she explained fully.......🙄

Notreallyme27 · 12/07/2025 23:27

Keep your eyes peeled. If the local foxes all have puffy faces and swollen ankles, you’ll have your answer.

NamelessNancy · 12/07/2025 23:27

Assuming a similar water intake to a dog of the same size I would expect a fox to drink approximately 400ml per day. To drain 150l over 4 nights would mean almost 100 foxes drinking from it according to my calculations. Perhaps not impossible but seems extremely improbable.

ForestryForever · 12/07/2025 23:29

TiptoeThroughTheToadstools · 12/07/2025 23:13

You obviously have a leak...

Did you read my post....

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