To think drivers are some of the most self-centred people around?

[ForBreezySloth]

I say this as someone who drives but seriously, the lack of awareness, the entitlement, the impatience… it’s mad. Whether it’s parking, refusing to slow down near schools or acting like cyclists/pedestrians are an inconvenience, it’s like the moment people get behind a wheel, empathy shuts off.

AIBU to think cars bring out the worst in people?

You've heard the term mamil?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamil

I would say "road users" in general tbh. There are very twatty cyclists, car drivers, WVM, delivery drivers, pedestrians....not all, but definitely lots of road users!

I find the people who walk down the middle of the road despite there being a pavement annoying when I'm trying to drive.

Or the ones who ignore the red nan and just wander into the road at a junction as cars are turning into that road.

But misy the drivers who act like dickheads outside schools, endangering their own children and the others.

I think there have been enough sensible comments from other Mumsnetters on here to disabuse you of your position. All the best.

There’s plenty of drivers who use the roads for “pleasure”. They aren’t commuting, just driving around for the fun of it. In your absurd view they’d be banned too. Ironically, a cyclist using the road to travel to the woods to cycle in would be ok.

Or the ones who ignore the red nan and just wander into the road at a junction as cars are turning into that road.

@TheNightingalesStarling I wonder if all of them really are just wandering out. I've been caught by this so many times not knowing a driver was planning to turn into a road I am crossing because they didn't indicate, and I do check before crossing. Not all junctions have pedestrian crossings and those that do sometimes have excessive wait times. I think a lot of drivers don't even see pedestrians, let alone understand that they use the car indicators to make decisions about crossing roads.

Cyclists can also be passed safely. If you’re unable/confident to do so you should take some extra driver training.

The delays you speak of are perception. You’re delayed far more by traffic lights, parked cars and other drivers. Most drivers can’t even use merge in turns properly which would save them more time than any cyclist costs them.

“Ban those using the roads for pleasure.” Sounds like lockdown. “Minimise travel. Is your journey essential? A granny dies every time a non-essential journey is made.”

As for overtaking cyclists, most of them can be overtaken safely. But when it’s twenty of them, taking up the whole width of the lane, and going at about 25mph, it can be easier said than done.

Its a specific junction with a pedestrian crossing I was referring to! Mostly college students on their phones trying to get to the chip shop.

And some piano tuners.

Agree. Certainly struck a chord with me !!. I’ll get my coat.

The biggest delays on the road are traffic jams caused by sheer weight of traffic