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Thread 2. To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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AWanderingFool · 06/07/2025 21:10

Thread Two for The Salt Path and Raynor Winn/Sally Walker/Sally Winn discussions.

Thread One is here: www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5368194-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?

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placemats · 07/07/2025 20:05

The owner now dead worked long hours and saw little return because the accounts were being embezzled. That's an evil criminal act.

sualipa · 07/07/2025 20:06

Uricon2 · 07/07/2025 19:57

What is your opinion about someone who steals 64K from their employer over a period of years?

No I wouldn't say "evil" because there is a high bar for that, but it goes a bit beyond "morally and ethically dubious" into "thief and criminal" territory, doesn't it?

Again supposed journalist hearsay until I see the evidence. Ex BBC Head of News James Harding chnaged his role with Tortoise as a signifcant person after founding it and the current result is a strange news site to say the least. I can see financial corners being cut to get a scoop. Not saying it's not true but I want more evidence.

find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11100473/filing-history

DiamondThrone · 07/07/2025 20:06

AWanderingFool · 07/07/2025 11:53

Recent press coverage concerning Raynor Winn is highly misleading. As a result, Raynor is taking legal advice and will not be making any further comment at this time.

This is what the DM reported. Interesting that Gigspinner repeat it. And not only repeat it, but seem certain that the coverage IS misleading.

I would love to know what Sally Walker feels is misleading.

The embezzlement patently happened, as did the NDA, borrowing money, and reposession. There is property in France. They have had CCJs and creditors looking for them.

Unless she thinks that they were somehow hard done by because the loan was called in. They did try to argue that it was a business loan, not a personal loan, to try and stop it being called in. So perhaps in the Walker's minds, they feel that was unfair, and makes them victims. Amazingly arrogant.

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Gigspinner have changed their statement, by adding quotation marks and making clear the first bit is from Winn/Walker's people:

From Raynor Winn's team: "Recent press coverage concerning Raynor Winn is highly misleading. As a result, Raynor is taking legal advice and will not be making any further comment at this time.
She is deeply sorry to let down those who were planning to attend the Saltlines tour, but while this process is ongoing, she will be unable to take part. We appreciate your understanding and support during this time."

Gigspanner Big Band's statement:
It is very important to the Gigspanner Big Band that their performances go ahead as planned, and they instead intend to present their recently released, highly acclaimed, album Turnstone.
We are currently in discussions with all of the venues on the upcoming tour to move forward with this plan, and we will keep you updated. It is time consuming, and your patience while we go through this process is requested and valued.
If you have booked a ticket at one of these venues, the Theatre in question will contact you with further information as plans are confirmed.

Merrymouse · 07/07/2025 20:07

Wellwater · 07/07/2025 19:26

I grew up in a small place. A lot of people don’t like putting their business out there in public.

And actually I don’t disagree with @sualipa — I think the Spectator article said something like ‘If there’s anything we like more than a tale of triumph over adversity, it’s discovering that the bestselling tale of triumph over adversity is a pack of lies’. The atmosphere of public glee feels a bit witch hunt-ish.

Is it something to do with readers having felt rebuked for having a roof over their head while two people starved and trudged themselves into serenity, and were very dismissive of other people walking the path differently, or anyone richer than them, or couples not still passionately in love? And now suddenly there’s a reason to say, ‘Well, we might not be walking the coastal path while living on fresh air and love, but at least we’re not embezzlers?’

I think the people who feel most irritated and upset are those with terminal or chronic serious illness and their partners.

However tbe publishers also bear responsibility. The problem is not so much the nature of Moth’s illness, (Doctors make mistakes, illness is not always predictable) but the unsubstantiated claims about reversing its progress.

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Bruisername · 07/07/2025 20:10

It’s tricky with Moth

you don’t want him to be lying about having it because it was particularly cruel to other sufferers etc

but then on the other hand you wouldn’t wish that condition on your worst enemy

Arcadia · 07/07/2025 20:11

I was never convinced by the back story about the Court case (I’m a lawyer), but enjoyed the first book and was due to go to a charity screening event at a small independent cinema in my city on Thursday this week, with a talk by the author and a drinks/networking for women type event. The organisers have offered us a refund which we’re accepting, ticket prices were over £50. They have said that her fee was going to be substantial - as it’s for Crisis, I presumed she wouldn’t be taking a fee as it was a charity event!

placemats · 07/07/2025 20:11

Cloudsandbees · 07/07/2025 20:04

I'm guessing a lot of the information for the Observer article came from the legal documents/court case. Matters of public record - they won't have needed receipts.

Ditto legal records for the house in France which was conveniently forgotten in the 'homeless' narrative.

The author has changed names since then. I'm guessing that the film promotion prompted people to come forward and probably before the sale of the Observer to Tortoise.

If you read the articles then you know that it starts with the name changes.

nomas · 07/07/2025 20:12

sualipa · 07/07/2025 20:06

Again supposed journalist hearsay until I see the evidence. Ex BBC Head of News James Harding chnaged his role with Tortoise as a signifcant person after founding it and the current result is a strange news site to say the least. I can see financial corners being cut to get a scoop. Not saying it's not true but I want more evidence.

find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11100473/filing-history

The victim’s wife gave a video interview as well. That’s not hearsay.

Uricon2 · 07/07/2025 20:12

sualipa · 07/07/2025 20:06

Again supposed journalist hearsay until I see the evidence. Ex BBC Head of News James Harding chnaged his role with Tortoise as a signifcant person after founding it and the current result is a strange news site to say the least. I can see financial corners being cut to get a scoop. Not saying it's not true but I want more evidence.

find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11100473/filing-history

They will have the evidence and not just one dusty if well respected historian looking at a diary allegedly by Hitler and confirming it. Hitler wasn't going to sue.

The arse would be sued off the Observer if they'd got this wrong. They haven't.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 07/07/2025 20:13

Merrymouse · 07/07/2025 20:07

I think the people who feel most irritated and upset are those with terminal or chronic serious illness and their partners.

However tbe publishers also bear responsibility. The problem is not so much the nature of Moth’s illness, (Doctors make mistakes, illness is not always predictable) but the unsubstantiated claims about reversing its progress.

Definitely this. As a poster yesterday said, having long term neurological diagnoses, or even CFS, Fibro etc (or in my case Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome) and being sold some crock of shit that walking miles might cure it just makes you feel even more like shit for not even being able to get out of bed or needing a wheelchair to get around.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 07/07/2025 20:14

Bruisername · 07/07/2025 20:10

It’s tricky with Moth

you don’t want him to be lying about having it because it was particularly cruel to other sufferers etc

but then on the other hand you wouldn’t wish that condition on your worst enemy

This is really true.
There isn't any best outcome.

ZenGarden89 · 07/07/2025 20:15

I read this book when it was released and bought a copy for my Mum. I'll be contacting Amazon for a refund for both given it was was lies.

While I enjoyed the book at the time, both my Mum and I agreed that we didn't like her and that some parts of the story didn't seem plausible. What was really grating was that they only had one or two nurofen between them and she insisted on either halving them or taking them herself (from someone who was given such a serious diagnosis).

She's a thief and a lying grifter. He is also a complete grifter and I now don't believe a word of any of it. Interesting that the charity severed ties with them so quickly, I'd say there is a lot more to come out.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 07/07/2025 20:16

ZenGarden89 · 07/07/2025 20:15

I read this book when it was released and bought a copy for my Mum. I'll be contacting Amazon for a refund for both given it was was lies.

While I enjoyed the book at the time, both my Mum and I agreed that we didn't like her and that some parts of the story didn't seem plausible. What was really grating was that they only had one or two nurofen between them and she insisted on either halving them or taking them herself (from someone who was given such a serious diagnosis).

She's a thief and a lying grifter. He is also a complete grifter and I now don't believe a word of any of it. Interesting that the charity severed ties with them so quickly, I'd say there is a lot more to come out.

I tried to get a refund today, they refused.

AWanderingFool · 07/07/2025 20:16

The receipt for me is what their nephew, James Walker, has said about them publicly on LinkedIn.

The people behind The Salt Path books are not who you think they are. The real people, Sally and Tim Walker, my Uncle & Aunt, are pathological liers who have always left a trail of destruction behind them.

If that was untrue he would be opening himself up to legal action.

Which, considering he runs his own business as a naval architect, would be career suicide.

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placemats · 07/07/2025 20:17

Bruisername · 07/07/2025 20:10

It’s tricky with Moth

you don’t want him to be lying about having it because it was particularly cruel to other sufferers etc

but then on the other hand you wouldn’t wish that condition on your worst enemy

It's not a curable disease. He was in his late 40s when it started, diagnosed in his early 50s. They are now in their 60s.

Bruisername · 07/07/2025 20:17

The ex publisher in front row said they have no legal requirement to give a refund

ZenGarden89 · 07/07/2025 20:17

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 07/07/2025 20:16

I tried to get a refund today, they refused.

Oh no way! Good to know, so thank you. I think when it fully explodes and they're discredited then it would be worth trying again.

Bruisername · 07/07/2025 20:18

placemats · 07/07/2025 20:17

It's not a curable disease. He was in his late 40s when it started, diagnosed in his early 50s. They are now in their 60s.

No I get that. It’s just a pretty horrible situation

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 07/07/2025 20:18

Just watching the Sinner/Dimatrov match and suddenly remembered the spectacle of Hannah IM blowing kisses to the peasants from the royal box. At least we've been spared that with this pair.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 07/07/2025 20:19

Merrymouse · 07/07/2025 20:07

I think the people who feel most irritated and upset are those with terminal or chronic serious illness and their partners.

However tbe publishers also bear responsibility. The problem is not so much the nature of Moth’s illness, (Doctors make mistakes, illness is not always predictable) but the unsubstantiated claims about reversing its progress.

Yes it's hard to put into words how damaging this storyline was.

It's devastating having a chronic and debilitating neurological condition. That compounded books like this that make the general public think that if we had enough determination to live healthily/exercise we could cure ourselves without medical intervention. It's a dangerous and nasty myth to peddle

ThatFluentHedgehog · 07/07/2025 20:20

HoppityBun · 07/07/2025 19:54

Those swallows and swifts flying around here now? Which way do you think they flew to get here?

It's Summer

anotherside · 07/07/2025 20:20

Quote from the book apparently:
”It was as if a hole had been cut through him; a trusting, honest, generous man … this betrayal by such a close friend had shaken him to the core.”

So thieving from a trusting, honest and generous man while simultanously defaming him as a thief. That’s some brass neck.

AWanderingFool · 07/07/2025 20:23

Quote from the book apparently:
”It was as if a hole had been cut through him; a trusting, honest, generous man … this betrayal by such a close friend had shaken him to the core.”

Sounds like she's imagining how her poor employer felt when he found out about her embezzlement.

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Thistlewoman · 07/07/2025 20:23

nomas · 06/07/2025 21:52

I thought the Walkers had made Ros Hemmings sign an NDA about the embezzlement? Or did I imagine that and it was just money returned for dropping the case?

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I read that it was Ros Hemmings' husband who signed the NDA. And he died several years ago.

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