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To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 06/07/2025 02:04

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

I read Raynor Winn's book The Salt Path and her other two books. I was looking forward to seeing the film at some point and to reading her next book. I felt sorry to read about the challenges the couple had faced, especially with regard to losing their family home and with Moth's health. Now, having read the article in today's Observer, I feel a bit stunned and am not sure what to think.

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

The real Salt Path: how the couple behind a bestseller le...

Penniless and homeless, the Winns found fame and fortune with the story of their 630-mile walk to salvation. We can reveal it was far from the truth

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-real-salt-path-how-the-couple-behind-a-bestseller-left-a-trail-of-debt-and-deceit

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SlightlyTooMuch · 06/07/2025 14:34

PullTheBricksDown · 06/07/2025 14:26

Haven't read any of the books but went to see the film with modest expectations of nice Cornwall and Devon scenery. The first bit about them losing their house was infuriatingly vague, enough to be suspicious in itself. But I also thought the treatment of their children was pretty cavalier: they didn't seem to think the kids would be upset at losing their home, and there was a brief reference on the lines of 'it's fine because Boy is moving in with his girlfriend and Girl is going off on a university placement abroad anyway'. I would have been much more concerned about my kids' wellbeing given the circumstances! Might explain why there's been no comment from them.

I think that was certainly one of the slightly odd aspects of the book, along with the vague and implausible account of losing the house at the start. I did just mentally file it under ‘the children asked not to be featured in any significant way’, though.

I have quite a few writer friends who’ve written occasional non-fiction books about their own experiences, and whose immediate family members have asked not to be included. So one friend’s memoir of living in an unusual place for a year looks as if she’s a single parent to a toddler, because her older child and husband said they didn’t want to be written about.

TwiceForLunch · 06/07/2025 14:34

Just read a 1 star review on amazon dating from 2021 titled; 'Is this a hoax?'.

Seems so. The only wonder is it's taken so long to come out tbh.

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 14:35

SlightlyTooMuch · 06/07/2025 14:23

Well, now you can read it as a book about a pair of middle-aged grifters going on the run with a tent from a mess of thefts and debt?😀

I did actually find myself thinking, would it be quite a good way of going on the run? No fixed abode, only very minimal bank card transactions once a month, on foot, no records of staying in b and bs, hostels or campsites, always on a coastal path, presumably with fairly minimal CCTV?

Haha true! It does sound kind of exhausting though! And strange that she thought she wouldn’t be caught after writing books about it. Presumably she decided to write the book to make money, and it obviously made a lot of money, but I wonder if she was ever concerned that it would eventually expose her?

RightOnTheEdge · 06/07/2025 14:39

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 14:23

I don’t think Where the Crawdads Sing was presented as anything other than fiction though. Do you mean she was shady about her own life?

I wondered about that as well so I had a Google and it seems like the author and her husband are wanted for questioning over a real life murder.
https://time.com/6196505/where-the-crawdads-sing-controversy-delia-owens-book/

Why 'Where the Crawdads Sing' Is So Controversial

Owens’ runaway success belies an ugly history—one that has cast a shadow on her life in the literary spotlight

https://time.com/6196505/where-the-crawdads-sing-controversy-delia-owens-book/

BarilynBordeaux · 06/07/2025 14:39

Absolute pair of grifters and I’m not even surprised, the books tone was actually so self righteous and self pitying, and nasty about people she clearly felt superior to.

AWanderingFool · 06/07/2025 14:39

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 14:35

Haha true! It does sound kind of exhausting though! And strange that she thought she wouldn’t be caught after writing books about it. Presumably she decided to write the book to make money, and it obviously made a lot of money, but I wonder if she was ever concerned that it would eventually expose her?

Someone upthread suggested that the combination of the NDA, the death of the man she embezzled, and the death of the man who loaned the money might have made them brave.

And if they'd been calling themselves Winn maybe they thought no one would connect them to the other stuff.

I think they got greedy and their egos decided that since some time had passed they'd be fine.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 14:40

Grapewrath · 06/07/2025 14:09

I listened to her on Ferne cotton happy place and instantly dislike her- I don’t think they people are saying ‘ooh I knew it’ gleefully- they’re more vindicated that they thought they were being unkind by being sceptical or not connecting with the author.

Exactly this. I would have loved to have been proven wrong!

DancingOctopus · 06/07/2025 14:42

InterestedDad37 · 06/07/2025 06:35

It's enough to make you give up salt. And paths 👍

Why on earth has Mumsnet taking away the " laugh" emoji?

Pumpkinforever · 06/07/2025 14:42

Heresmycontroversialopinion · 06/07/2025 13:58

Jack. Monroe and Prince Harry are on their books. I don’t think they have high editorial standards.

Probably got Meg signed up for the Duchess Diaries

User14March · 06/07/2025 14:43

Is it really possible ‘Moth’ was never ill at all?

AveriltheAvidReader · 06/07/2025 14:44

Not quite the same at all I know but it reminds me of the Captain Tom fiasco with his daughter and the money she earned. And now she's written a book on 'dealing with grief'.
Good grief!

Both women are scoundrels and have profited from mistruths.

Choux · 06/07/2025 14:44

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 14:35

Haha true! It does sound kind of exhausting though! And strange that she thought she wouldn’t be caught after writing books about it. Presumably she decided to write the book to make money, and it obviously made a lot of money, but I wonder if she was ever concerned that it would eventually expose her?

Once you have had a book published under a fake name you can’t control how many people connect with it and amplify it, how many it sells etc. Your publishing contract possibly compels you to undertake some publicity which you hope will be press only without photos so agree. Then you have to start appearing in TV etc but the two people you defrauded and borrowed from are dead so you hope it will all be ok. And it was for a long time… it seems agreeing to a film was a step too far in terms of publicity.

Am hoping the press will pick up on the outrage both here and on X and amplify this story more in this week’s papers. The X post has almost 250k views now.

AveriltheAvidReader · 06/07/2025 14:45

I wonder how Gillian A and Jason I feel about their roles in the film?

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 14:45

DancingOctopus · 06/07/2025 14:42

Why on earth has Mumsnet taking away the " laugh" emoji?

I wondered that too! Wish they hadn’t.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 14:46

ShiftingSand · 06/07/2025 14:13

In the film Raynor Winn (Gillian Anderson) talks about a letter that didn’t arrive in time to present at court. I wonder what that was all about? If it existed in real life and would it have kept them on the farm?

That's covered in the observer articles

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 14:47

Choux · 06/07/2025 14:44

Once you have had a book published under a fake name you can’t control how many people connect with it and amplify it, how many it sells etc. Your publishing contract possibly compels you to undertake some publicity which you hope will be press only without photos so agree. Then you have to start appearing in TV etc but the two people you defrauded and borrowed from are dead so you hope it will all be ok. And it was for a long time… it seems agreeing to a film was a step too far in terms of publicity.

Am hoping the press will pick up on the outrage both here and on X and amplify this story more in this week’s papers. The X post has almost 250k views now.

Yeah that’s very true. Maybe they thought they had to agree to the film, because not agreeing would make them look suspicious. Just a thought.

SlightlyTooMuch · 06/07/2025 14:48

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 14:35

Haha true! It does sound kind of exhausting though! And strange that she thought she wouldn’t be caught after writing books about it. Presumably she decided to write the book to make money, and it obviously made a lot of money, but I wonder if she was ever concerned that it would eventually expose her?

They must have thought about the risk, especially when the book was, unexpectedly, a huge success, and the film was not only optioned (lots of books do, and nothing ever happens), but then made, with two big stars.

I imagine you could sort of get sucked in to the process, though. A delighted agent and editor telling you sales are huge, publisher publicity person booking you in for festivals and tv appearances, the film option getting picked up, the producer casting two stars etc etc — you’d sort of keep forging ahead, knowing it was all likely to come crashing down, preparing what you are going to say…

ETA. Which does partly explain why they both came across slightly oddly in interviews. I saw that one other people had referenced, Rick Stein talking about their cider-making enterprise, and thought ‘Oh, these people are a bit strange.’

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 14:48

God I bet the Daily Mail will be all over this soon enough. That’s probably a good thing though. I can see her Wikipedia entry has been updated with today’s article.

RoyalCorgi · 06/07/2025 14:50

AWanderingFool · 06/07/2025 14:39

Someone upthread suggested that the combination of the NDA, the death of the man she embezzled, and the death of the man who loaned the money might have made them brave.

And if they'd been calling themselves Winn maybe they thought no one would connect them to the other stuff.

I think they got greedy and their egos decided that since some time had passed they'd be fine.

I think you're right. The combination of brand new identities along with the key principals having died made them think they'd get away with it. Also they quite probably didn't think it would become a bestseller. As a PP said, where they went wrong was allowing it to be made into a film, which brought it to much wider attention.

Even so, it's remarkable to me that they weren't caught earlier. They've done quite a lot of publicity over the years and their photographs have appeared in numerous papers and magazines. Surely someone would have recognised them as Sally and Tim Walker?

Rallentanda · 06/07/2025 14:50

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 14:47

Yeah that’s very true. Maybe they thought they had to agree to the film, because not agreeing would make them look suspicious. Just a thought.

Writers don't usually have a say over film rights. From what I understand they are owned by the publishers and sold off as and when in various ways eg a tv series here, a film in another territory there. It looks like Sally Walker/Raynor Winn was a consultant on the film so she'd have been paid that way. Quite brazen, really, to do the promo for it.

I hope nobody has a back-end deal. Sometimes actors will take low pay and a percentage of the profits. Surely nobody's going to go and see it now?

Fandango52 · 06/07/2025 14:51

WestwardHo1 · 06/07/2025 13:13

"I put a tent in the bedroom to feel safe"

Yeah pull the other one Sal. You were laughing all the way to your Tempur mattress weren't you?

Where’s the laugh emoji when you need it? @MNHQ please bring it back!

summerholidaynow · 06/07/2025 14:51

DesperateforSunshine · 06/07/2025 06:42

I would like to think that it would be mostly accurate in the Observer especially as its critising an inaccurate film and books..

No national newspaper (of quality) would spend 3 pages in the main section on unsubstantiated claims. Too risky

Aspanielstolemysanity · 06/07/2025 14:52

I find it interesting she sat in recent interviews as let Gillian /Jason tell the story of the gross injustices they had faced while not saying much herself

SlightlyTooMuch · 06/07/2025 14:52

AveriltheAvidReader · 06/07/2025 14:45

I wonder how Gillian A and Jason I feel about their roles in the film?

Gillian played Margaret Thatcher and Jason played the faithful disciple of a genocidal magical dictator, so I imagine they’re fine with playing peiole whose moral credentials are pretty dubious!😀

Mischance · 06/07/2025 14:52

I started the book the abandoned it for 2 reasons. Firstly I looked after my late husband during his lengthy Parkinsons deteriorationand felt no desire to read about someone else's neurodegenerative disorder. Secondly, from my professional background I was very dubious about his disorder as his apparent recovery made no sense at all.
I thought I was just a cynic, but apparently not ......

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