to believe Rachel Reeves was crying because

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1. she was upset when Lindsay Hoyle told her to keep her answers short

2. she had an argument with Keir Starmer (possibly about her keeping her job, or about how to handle the inevitable questions about the new £5.5bn per annum black hole) just before PMQs

3. Keir Starmer refused to say she would keep her job in front of the whole country. If he genuinely wanted her to stay, he would just say 'of course she's going to still be Chancellor' and that would be that.

4. she is under immense pressure because she knows she will have soon to breach her fiscal rules, she knows she is responsible for many of the decisions that will lead to that, and she knows the how serious the consequences of her failure will be. We have seen recently (even just today) how vicious the bond market can be.

In short, I believe she was crying because of professional pressures (understandable ones, though largely of her own making, and about which I have little sympathy) and not nebulous 'personal' reasons.

If her parent or partner or child or grandparent or pet is ill the natural thing is to just say 'sorry, a close relative is in hospital and my emotions got the better of me'. Everybody would understand. You don't need huge reams of evidence but you need to give the bare bones of an explanation. She is trying to style it out but we can all see through it.

I will apologise if I'm wrong but long experience shows that 'personal reasons' almost always means 'I'm skiving or jobhunting' when a colleague in the workplace uses it to excuse their time off.

I believe it means even less when uttered by a politican.

She doesn't let another man buy her glasses or clothes either.

The detail doesn’t need to be shared but you can not say the fact she is upset and unable to control her emotions are private when she is sitting in parliament at PMQs.

You should be careful. Accusing Davros of leaning on Starmer will not go down well.

Which part is tosh?
Fact - she lied on her CV
Fact - KS is a WEF puppet - he is on record as saying he prefers Davos ( and maybe Davros - who knows) to oarliament.
There is plenty of anecdotal evidence about people being seriously affected ( note lack of hyperbole) by the policies of this government. You can call it tosh but it won’t make it untrue. Keep putting your head in the sand- im sure that will work out great for you.

I'll give her the break she was giving pup claimants & the same comosssion. Seems fair.

Wahtaboutery at it's finest, bringing it back to 'boat people' and an insult at end.
I welcome taxpaying, jobcreating wealthy people who bring genuine productivity to the country, but object to being blackmailed by ultra hight net individuals in finance threatening to move from country to country to shave a few per cent off their tax bill- these people usually pay such little tax in proportion that it's good riddance to them anyway.

Crying at work certainly can equate to not being good at your job - there are many many jobs where is would be totally unacceptable to be seen crying or unable to control your emotions. You would be expected to step back from the job until you can compose yourself,

Bottom line is you cannot cry on the job when you’re the chancellor of a country. If she felt like she was going to cry she should have feigned illness & excused herself.

She wouldn’t be under so much pressure if she had listened to advice before her disastrous budget.

You do know that no other Chancellors, since Gordon Brown have been trained economists? RR is perhaps the most professionally trained and experienced economist we’ve ever had in the U.K. She’s worked as an economist for the Bank of England, written papers and published research. Chancellors are usually political appointees not technocrats.

Yes if she was routinely crying in interviews, meetings, and whilst speaking.
I wonder if a man would be getting these comments.
What normal job could you not cry for a minute or two, whilst not actively doing the job?

If she is so highly qualified why did she lie on her CV?

I wouldn't waste your time replying to anyone who starts sharing conspiracy theories about 'the globalist WEF....'

She’s also under additional pressure from her budget that’s severely hampered economic growth. Her ideological stance isn’t in alignment with economic growth and business confidence.

Her financial and economic acumen is pretty poor which has added to her political woes. But you know all of this yourself as I’ve read many of your other posts.

But of course she’s not a chancellor that’s facing unprecedented challenges as you’ve listed above. The challenges she is facing though are largely of her own making but were compounded by the back benches adding to her billions black hole that she just can’t square.

Your reading comprehension needs more work, I said:

like the council officer [CIVIL SERVANT] who refused to follow the instruction of ruling reform councillors [DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED POLITICIAN IN CHARGE OF COUNCILS]

Yes a good summing up

This.

And I bet they feel gut punched by a duplicitous PM again.

Our team worked solidly for three months on a great fundraising plan, the head trustee would come in ask questions be very enthusiastic. Come the day of the board meeting and our presentation. The board heard the presentation. The head trustee then shot it down in flames saying that he knew nothing about it. My boss pointed out that he had been in the office many times for an update. He flat out denied it. My boss walked out of the room while we tidied away the presentation. When we got back to the office the boss was clearing his desk. He walked out never to return.

Funnily enough that head trustee was the senior partner at a firm of solicitors. Bloody lawyers

Totally agree.
I'm in a senior job in the city and I'm up late working now (mumsnet break).
I've had 4/5 hours of sleep for the last 3 nights. But I don't have to be on camera tomorrow.
She's the same age as me. My DC are slightly older than hers (10 and 12). There is no way I'd do this job. Imagine your DC seeing you cry on TV. She probably hasn't had dinner with them for weeks. I find it unfathomable. Who'd choose that life?

I think you find many families leaving have paid more than their fair share. We are one of them.

My boss left U.K.

He paid loads of taxes on his high income. More in a year than most in a lifetime.
He employed people, paid employers taxes, pensions - nannies, tutors, drivers, gardener, art curator, lawyers, accountants, architects, builders, private Dr, private dentist, private schools etc.
He even paid private school tuition for a British child “in need” he became aware of when boys father stabbed dead as a drug dealer - if he could help one boy stay on a straight path he said.

He bought property & paid big stamp duty, cars, wine, theatre tickets and donated generously to charity.
He bought expensive things all the time VAT VAT VAT

He’s gone now to a place that loving all the money & jobs he is bringing with him.

Was he dodging tax? I don’t think so - certainly was pay a lot of taxes & vat.

But his moving, to a lower tax country is like getting a massive raise. He’s saying he’s saving enough in taxes every 3 years he gets another year of income “free” and can retire early.

His UK properties - empty. All those people - fired.

He did bring a team of other high earners with him to new location. More lost vat & tax.

Fools are those who think we don’t need “the rich” - they pump so much cash into the economy & don’t use nhs, schools, benefits …. If you can’t see that - you are financially blind.

Very good question. The 'decade working as an economist at the Bank of England' lie came straight from her own mouth. No opportunity to spin that one I'm afraid.

That said, I nearly cried too when I saw my school fee bill for next year with 20% VAT added that landed in my inbox earlier this week. 😤

When my son was living and working in Bermuda. Word got round that Tony Blair was on a private visit looking into setting up a company there. He wasn't the only one to do that.

I’m assuming you have no experience in business? What do you think makes a country an attractive place to start one, in the hopes it will eventually thrive and create jobs, taxable revenue and… you know… growth? Starting a company requires a huge amount of personal risk. Why would anybody now do that here when the business environment is so utterly hostile? You can crow about losing non-doms but it’s so short sighted and frankly quite ignorant. Reeves et al have inflicted great damage on our future. The UK is no longer a country of aspiration, and tall poppy syndrome reigns supreme. So depressing. I am not wealthy or young enough to leave, but I will be encouraging my son to as I want him to do well in life and not be dragged down by this cancerous mindset.

Much like she is trying to do to pip claimants you mean?

‘Tax Havens’ make huge amounts of money from companies and individuals - far far more than they would make with high tax rates.