Is this neglect?

[Marii97]

I was with my friend today and has a nearly 3 year old in nursery. The nursery rang and said they don’t have any sun cream in for her, can they use nursery sun cream? She told them no, she doesn’t need it. Please don’t apply any. She then told me afterwards she doesn’t like to use sun cream. I came with her to pick up her DD after we had done shopping and all her arms and under her eyes/cheeks were burnt and already peeling and looked swollen under her eyes.

That’s not how any nursery works on days like today, same for if there’s heavy hail stone/snow they don’t let them wonder out in just a nappy and freeze

I’m not sure the nursery is at fault here. OP, how do you know that the sun burn you saw was from today? It was equally hot yesterday. Could the poor little mite have been suffering and peeling from days of exposure?

I use the Yuka app and all the screen shots are of suncream that have no known nasties in them. All widely available in the supermarket.
If your friend is able to read then she is able to buy sun cream.

Yes I agree, did the nursery actually let her outside? It sounds like the child has burned over the weekend for her skin to be peeling today. Peeling usually doesn't happen immediately. That poor child, now suffering the consequences of a stupid parent!

Send her links for non toxic suncream for kids or if you have the budget buy her a bottle to ‘try’ see if that will encourage her to use it

I have the type of skin that burns if I even think about the sun. I was born to be in the bogs and marshes in the rain 🤣

My DP is very olivey and grew up in the south of France… guess which one of us never wore sun cream growing up. And which one has had skin cancer as a result.

While there are many people that are sensitive to sun creams there are so many options out there. Surely people have been using UV protection and suncreams for long enough now for us all to realise that the risk of sun damage causing cancer far outweighs the risks of using some cream?

On the other hand, I have incredibly fair skin and have never burned in the 30 years I’ve used it.

No because people have social media and the stupid Yuka app and think vaccinating for measles is poison and that “nasties” in spf are causing skin cancer
honestly
do what you want to yourself but vaccinate and put spf on your kids

I’m a redhead and burn at 10am and I’m so thankful my mum stuck up for me even at school to say “no she needs shade, no she won’t be outside on sports day all day, and no she needs spf constantly”

Was she maybe indoors at nursery today but out over the weekend and got burned? (Matches better w peeling already & the fact that no nursery would let her out in the sun minus a hat and SC).
your friend’s deluded and neglecting her kid though. Her body, her choice, but you have to protect your kid?!

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I have reported the earlier post.

There is a big difference between freedom of speech, debate, and just posting false information.

Wow, I’ve never seen junk science countered by junk science before!

Next generation for skin cancer.

This and she should be wearing a hat. Unfortunately your friend is thick, but I guess it's the same as a parent which is anti-vax, forces their kid to be vegan, has lots of screentime etc Not much you can do about it.

Why are you friends with such an idiot? Of course the poor child needs sunscreen.

Your friend is nuts and h childs risk of skin cancer later in life has gone through the roof

nursery want reporting for letting it happen, she should have been kept indoors

This.

I’m finding this hard to believe- especially the nursery part.

She may think that suncream is toxic, but so is chemotherapy treatment for cancer.

Yes, I do think it's neglect, but the nursery should have kept the poor child indoors or in the shade at the very least.

It's another of those dangerous conspiracy theories.
Social media has a lot to answer for. Gullible people seem to be prepared to believe anything and to dismiss actual scientific evidence.
People have died because of it but it doesn't seem to make the slightest difference to those people's actions or beliefs

Apparently it's because people are not reapplying and and we are no longer covering up we are relying on sunscreen too much! As a child it was
Sunscreen
Big hat
Cover up
Inside by lunch outside after three

Picnics were under trees not in the middle of a field in full sun etc etc we were taught to seek shade

This is neglect borderline abuse. That child was harmed unnecessairly.

Please report it, your friend needs help with parenting.

Woop-di-do for you. What was your point?

I have said I use factor 50 daily. I am a doctor, I know it doesn’t cause cancer (or anything else). I just don’t think it’s necessarily sufficient for many people, and the advice for babies and toddlers is that they shouldn’t be out in the midday sun anyway. Certainly no two year old should be out in the sun long enough to blister, sun cream or no sun cream.

It’s crazy
people won’t vaccinate but if your child ends up in ICU you’re begging for the “toxic” meds, not asking for homeopathic remedies

i inject a drug that has a black box in America, a high risk of anaphylaxis and it doubles my risk of cancer
sounds terrifying but when they explained it, it basically meant my risk goes from (I can’t remember the numbers) 1 in 10000 to 2 in 10000
i wouldn’t give up the drug for the world, it’s been life changing

This. Both are to blame. Nursery have a duty of care to the child but dcs mum sounds like an idiot

Yes, very likely, she hasn’t been applying it at all apparently and won’t and refused nursery to use theirs either