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To think this guy cares about me?

21 replies

Brood · 29/06/2025 10:58

I’m looking for some advice. I met a guy two years ago. Initially I had no interest in him. He’s older than me with kids with different women. Initially I wasn’t attracted to him and he wasn’t what I was looking for. I agreed to go on a date with him because he was very convincing, very charming and he seemed very kind.

There were a few moments in the early stages that stopped me in my tracks. According to him, all his exes seemed to be “crazy” and when I asked for more information the reasons included post-natal depression, and “trapping” him by getting pregnant, which gave me more uneasy feelings. He talked about himself like he was a hero for looking after his children but consistently criticised the kids’ Mums. One he criticised for coming from a disadvantaged background and for being so much younger than him. This alarmed me. His overall lack of compassion and empathy gnawed at my insides. When I tried to address this with him, he snapped at me - saying that I was upsetting him by bringing up painful subjects

I pushed these feelings to the back of my mind even though they resurfaced on occasion

He has a lot of redeeming qualities. He is very smart, at first he seemed very caring and nurturing, he is very fun to be around, he told me everything I wanted to hear in the beginning. He spent numerous conversations convincing me to close off other options and commit to him. He told me we could have a child together. Eventually I agreed.

The intimacy was like nothing I have ever experienced before - completely electrifying. I have a complicated past of SA as a teenager so intimate relationships have been torture for me throughout my life. For most of my adult life, I couldn’t even have a cervical smear. I have attended so much therapy for this. I told this guy about my past because I really wanted it to work. I had a theory before this that my body would only allow me to connect with safe people. We never used protection.

A while into the relationship, there were rumours he had been talking to other women. He initially denied it but later admitted it - he said one of the women was a psycho and he put the blame on me saying I had reacted badly by not trusting him, that he cuts off people who unfairly question his integrity and that I misunderstood the nature of the relationship as he had never closed himself off. This was very frustrating. After this, he also told me he’d had a vasectomy

So this is a long story but here’s the thing. I’m constantly drawn back to him even though he has now told me he doesn’t want to be with me. He sees other women from time to time and never uses protection. I still sleep with him every couple of months but he has become increasingly dismissive of me even though he wants to engage in daily texting.

I heard a quote today that said: “If he doesn’t care about protecting you, he probably doesn’t care about what happens to you”. I have expressed reservations to him about having unprotected sex when he’s sleeping with others, he dismisses my concerns but he will wear protection if I insist.

I know I need to care about me too, it feels really hard to assert myself with him - it feels like there is always the threat that he will cut me off. He’s become someone that I talk to and think about a lot. Maybe I am attached to a good version of him that was never real. I wonder if I had behaved differently, would things have worked out better.

I am someone who used to be happy, confident, free and fun. I feel like I have become a shell

Am I being unreasonable to keep hanging onto the hope that this guy cares about me?

OP posts:
randomchap · 29/06/2025 11:06

It's possible to have one, maybe two, crazy exes. But if all of them are crazy then it's him, not them. Big red flag

Seeing other women, slagging off the mothers of his children, lying about having a vasectomy. All signs of being a bell-end

Fuck the guy off. Block him on everything.

You deserve better than this

MiloMinderbinder925 · 29/06/2025 11:07

OP you sound very vulnerable and the first thing I would do is visit a GUM clinic and get tested because he sleeps around and doesn't use protection.

The second thing I would do is find a local Freedom Programme, if one isn't available then contact your local domestic abuse organisation and see what help is available re therapy or programmes.

Third, I'd block this low life on everything and wouldn't go near him again.

Please read up on red flags as he'd put Tianamen Square to shame.

GreyCarpet · 29/06/2025 11:10

Jesus fucking christ.

Threads like this illustrate perfectly that whilst women aren't responsible for men's behaviour we are completely responsible for what we choose to accept.

Yeah, go for it, OP. And in 5 years time you'll have plenty of complete strangers telling you you couldn't possible have known he was a bad choice and it's not your fault 🙄

Brood · 29/06/2025 11:23

I should have clarified that we are not currently in a relationship. We went through a period of no contact after I heard he had been talking with other women. We reconnected a few months after and it has been more of a situationship since. I keep holding on to the hope that he might want to commit. He has said “one day” but I feel like I’m in limbo. I constantly feel devalued, which is an awful feeling. I’d like to think he cares about me because we have had some really fun times together but my gut feeling is that he doesn’t but I don’t know it I can trust it

OP posts:
randomchap · 29/06/2025 11:25

He's a dick head

Run away, block him

GreyCarpet · 29/06/2025 11:32

Brood · 29/06/2025 11:23

I should have clarified that we are not currently in a relationship. We went through a period of no contact after I heard he had been talking with other women. We reconnected a few months after and it has been more of a situationship since. I keep holding on to the hope that he might want to commit. He has said “one day” but I feel like I’m in limbo. I constantly feel devalued, which is an awful feeling. I’d like to think he cares about me because we have had some really fun times together but my gut feeling is that he doesn’t but I don’t know it I can trust it

Your gut feeling is that someone, who clearly doesn't care about you, doesn't care about you but you're not sure whether you should trust it?

Why are you trying to put your body's warnings to the back of your mind and ignore your gut feeling?

He's saying the absolute bare minimum to keep you where he wants you.

At the very least, he doesn't have any respect for you both because he wouldn't treat you this way if he did and because its very difficult to value and respect someone who has so little self respect and values themselves so little.

Most people.wouldn’t choose a relationship with someone who allowed themselves to be treated this way. Its just not a very attractive quality in someone.

CatRoleplayTycoon · 29/06/2025 11:33

Agree with @MiloMinderbinder925 — you sound incredibly vulnerable. Have no further contact with this man, find a good therapist and start to work hard on why you feel this is all you deserve.

toomuchfaff · 29/06/2025 11:40

for God's sake woman what more do you need?

He doesn't give a shit about you
Ge fucks other women
He tells you what he thinks you want to hear so he can fuck you occasionally.

"he has some redeeming qualities " - no he doesn't. Have some goddam respect, block this shit head, don't ever let him contact you again. He wont give a shit aside from that youre taking a stand against him. Don't think that he's turned a corner, and that it really does prove he loves you. He doesn't, we wont ever.

Hallywally · 29/06/2025 11:44

He’s dangling you like a puppet on a string. He’s abusive and knows he has you completely in his thrall- he can pick you up and put you down whenever he wants and you’ll still be hanging on. Your past traumas make you vulnerable to hideous men like this. Please seek some help and get counselling/therapy to enable you to be strong enough to walk away from predators like this. You need to able to be strong and single before you can be confident in your ability to pick decent men.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 29/06/2025 11:47

Brood · 29/06/2025 11:23

I should have clarified that we are not currently in a relationship. We went through a period of no contact after I heard he had been talking with other women. We reconnected a few months after and it has been more of a situationship since. I keep holding on to the hope that he might want to commit. He has said “one day” but I feel like I’m in limbo. I constantly feel devalued, which is an awful feeling. I’d like to think he cares about me because we have had some really fun times together but my gut feeling is that he doesn’t but I don’t know it I can trust it

GUM:
https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/sexual-health-services/find-a-sexual-health-clinic/

Freedom Programme
https://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/

Therapy:
https://www.bacp.co.uk/

nhs.uk

Find a sexual health clinic

Find a sexual health clinic near you.

https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/sexual-health-services/find-a-sexual-health-clinic

Calamitousness · 29/06/2025 11:51

No he doesn’t care for you or about you in the slightest. This is not a good situation. Men who like you do not behave like this. Nor do decent men that don’t like you behave like this. What you have is a horrendous specimen of a man who is a horrible human and doesn’t give a shit about you. Get away from him forever. Learn from this.

PeapodMcgee · 29/06/2025 11:53

Quite simply, what the fuck are you playing at? Come on. Give yourself a slap. Would you want your daughter to be with someone like him? Of course not. Do better.

AllrightNowBaby · 29/06/2025 12:00

Your situation is not good at all, this guy is treating you like dirt….and you are letting him.
Tell him that you are moving on and to not contact you any more, then block immediately.
Start looking after yourself, get some more therapy and work through why you thought all this was acceptable, exercise, walk, eat healthily, look great…be a queen.
You know the ad “because we’re worth it”..
well we are and so are you.

VirginaGirl · 29/06/2025 12:02

It seems that you have convinced yourself that he’s the one for you because you’re compatible in bed and you felt ‘safe’ with him. But that is nonsense. He is an experienced player who is highly skilled at seducing women. You have fallen for his BS - you’re not the first nor were you the last.

He isn’t good for you and you deserve so much more.

DontTouchRoach · 29/06/2025 15:29

Oh love, of course he doesn’t care about you. He’s abusing you. He really is treating you like absolute shit. He knows you are vulnerable and he has chosen you to abuse for that reason. He’s an awful, awful man. He’s done this to all his previous partners by the sound of it. He treats them like shit, gets them pregnant, then adds them to his list of ‘crazy’ exes which he complains about to the next one.

PLEASE block him in every way possible and if at all possible, get yourself some therapy/counselling because it’s obvious that you need some help if you’re going to avoid this pattern in the future.

Your post genuinely made my blood run cold. This man is bloody dangerous.

susanandlucypevensie · 29/06/2025 15:32

Sweetheart, I am one paragraph in and I can already see this guy has more red flags than 1945 Moscow.

Run.

JMSA · 29/06/2025 15:33

I read this and I feel sorry for you. Don’t be someone that people pity!
Be a strong woman who knows her own worth, and who cuts this scumbag off because she knows she deserves better.

susanandlucypevensie · 29/06/2025 15:50

but he will wear protection if I insist.

Oh, what a gent 🙄you know having sex without protection when the other person insisted on protection is rape, right? You are consenting to sex with protection, not to sex without. If he tries to do anything else it's rape by coercion. This doesn't make him nice. It's the bare minimum you should expect if he wants to have access to YOUR body.

I know I need to care about me too, it feels really hard to assert myself with him - it feels like there is always the threat that he will cut me off.

And what a huge loss that would be 🙄 You cut him off. Cut him out of your life. It will feel like throwing away a mouldy old banana you keep saying you're going to make banana bread out of but you know you never will and now it has fruit flies. you don't need him. Yeet him out of existence and buy yourself fresh bananas. You don't need him and he certainly doesn't need you.

He’s become someone that I talk to and think about a lot.

Because he's got inside your head. He probably picked you knowing you were vulnerable. I bet the sex wasn't even that great, it's just that you've never been laid properly before. I promise there's better.
And he isn't thinking about you a lot, you're just a name on a list to him. Somewhere to go. Like a stray cat that goes to many houses to be fed and they all pet him and think he loves them but they're just dinner to him. He's a user and a loser. A narcassistic asshole who thinks he's so clever and amazing because women who haven't had any better have told him so, then when they get wise and cut him off, they become the psychos because he could do no wrong. Urgh, what a catch.

Maybe I am attached to a good version of him that was never real.

Yep. Sounds like it.

I wonder if I had behaved differently, would things have worked out better.

Didn't for all those "crazy" exes he knocked up and then left holdinmg the baby, so I doubt it.

I am someone who used to be happy, confident, free and fun. I feel like I have become a shell

You hold the power to get rid of him and start afresh. Don't put your happiness in other people's hands. It's never going to be as important to anyone as it is to you.

Kitkatcatflap · 29/06/2025 17:02

'I don't know if I can trust him'. Are you kidding? We have never met him but we are 100% certain you CANNOT trust him.

As for your title/headline. No he doesn't care about you, he only cares about himself

Jabberwok · 29/06/2025 17:16

I'm male,straight and I think he's a complete dick...I know a guy who does this, every ex partner had some problem "she was too clingy" "she was mental and stalked me" "she only wanted me to have kids" " she was after my money"

You need to ask yourself will this type of guy stay with you? Will he sleep around?

And last of all why would he commit to you...he's got you on tap. Sex when he wants, fling her a smile and a bit of attention...next he will be asking for money or trying to move in.

SilviaSnuffleBum · 29/06/2025 19:03

Oh, love: reading this really saddened me, as I can really empathise with your position, having been there too many times during my life.
Men like that don't care about you. Speaking from my own rather fucked up experience, I was just a vulnerable, rather gullible vulva with a voice/easy fuck (harsh language I know, but I felt like a piece of meat, as was treated as such).
Even the way you've worded things reminds me of how I used to 'rationalise' things to myself.
I also experienced SA as a child and young adult, so perhaps it was easy for guys like that to take advantage.
Where I erred is that I repeated the pattern time and time again, not drawing a line under fucked up relationships 'til my late 30s.
I wish for better for you.

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