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Nadiya Hussain responds to critics

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PruthePrune · 29/06/2025 09:24

Nadiya Hussain responds to critics

I can understand her being upset that her shows have been axed, apparently ratings were falling, However, I find it hugely disappointing that she has brought race/religion into it. No one is entitled to a BBC show and I think she has had a bloody good run. AIBU?

Nadiya Hussain says she ‘won’t be grateful’ following BBC cooking show axe

Nadiya Hussain has spoken out following the cancellation of her BBC cooking show, delivering a powerful response to critics who told her to be “grateful”. The Great British Bake Off winner has enjoyed a 10-year relationship with the broadcaster followi...

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/lifestyle/bake-off-nadiya-hussain-cooking-show-axe-b2778744.html

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missmollygreen · 29/06/2025 12:21

godmum56 · 29/06/2025 11:52

actually and more broadly I think "Be grateful for what you have/have had" is a shit thing to say to anybody. For Nadiya, hearing it like the background music of her life must be particularly triggering but even without the race and gender overlay I remember wanting to KILL the person who, when my husband died, said "you have to be grateful for the years you had together"

The entertainment industry is a fickle place.
Anyone who gets a chance to have a platform and make alot of money/fame from it IS VERY LUCKY. And yes, they should be thankful for it. It is something that the vast majority of people or any colour or sex will ever get.

Fairyliz · 29/06/2025 12:21

justasking111 · 29/06/2025 10:39

It's estimated she's worth around £3.7 million so has a strong position. BBC turned down Clarksons Farm, remake of All Creatures Great and Small. They're not the best choosers of interesting programmes

Bloody hell if this is true she should be bloody grateful!
I have worked for 47 years in average pay jobs but have a nice house because I was able to buy in the 1980’s before prices skyrocketed. Perhaps younger people should stop telling me to be grateful for that?

Zov · 29/06/2025 12:22

Kendodd · 29/06/2025 09:40

Actually (poor) white people are told to be grateful all the time.

This. ^ They are never allowed to complain, and are constantly asked to 'check their privilege.' 🙄

I agree @PruthePrune that Nadiya is well out of order here. As has been said, she is lucky that she was given the chance at all. I can't think of any other Bake Off winners who were given the same chances as her. (Indeed most reality TV stars have not had the same chances.) Very poor attitude from her. I thought she was OK too. Gone right off her now I have.

Plenty of people have their shows cancelled because of poor viewing figures and I don't hear them whining about it. Steph from Steph's Packed Lunch for instance. Her show was cancelled after 3 seasons as very few people watched it, but she didn't throw her toys out of her pram, and blame everyone but herself.

BingoBling · 29/06/2025 12:23

crumblingschools · 29/06/2025 12:13

Bake Off brought Mary Berry back into the limelight, only people of a certain age or people who bought her books would have known who she was before then.

Agree. I had a couple of her books from pre bake off days Fast Cakes being one. In the blurb it said she ran aga courses and wrote for GH or similar.
Not really the point but I didn't really rate Mary Berry as a baker - Fast Cakes is full of duff recipes. Obviously she came across as a great personality on Bake Off.

inamarina · 29/06/2025 12:24

Doteycat · 29/06/2025 12:12

I absolutely do not get this thing that people dont have to be grateful.
She should be grateful, We should all be more grateful if you ask me.
Grateful she got an opportunity, grateful she was able to work that to her advantage, grateful people watched her, grateful its improved her life and her famillies. And now its over, or changing. Thats life.
So many people these days arent bloody grateful enough and always want more. When are we going to be happy with enough?
You can be disappointed that its over, but grateful you had it.
I do not think thats a bad thing.
Fuckall to do with race colour or creed.

I agree, and I also think it’s possible to both want more and be grateful for what you’ve achieved so far.

bluegreygreen · 29/06/2025 12:25

Doteycat · 29/06/2025 12:12

I absolutely do not get this thing that people dont have to be grateful.
She should be grateful, We should all be more grateful if you ask me.
Grateful she got an opportunity, grateful she was able to work that to her advantage, grateful people watched her, grateful its improved her life and her famillies. And now its over, or changing. Thats life.
So many people these days arent bloody grateful enough and always want more. When are we going to be happy with enough?
You can be disappointed that its over, but grateful you had it.
I do not think thats a bad thing.
Fuckall to do with race colour or creed.

Exactly this

ItsUpToYou · 29/06/2025 12:26

Sunbeam01 · 29/06/2025 12:18

Oh please.

I have worked with ED&I for over a decade - promoting it and ensuring it is at the forefront of corporate culture at top FTSE 100 companies.

I will tell you who is at the most disadvantaged in this country - white working class males. That is fact.

Where did I mention “disadvantage”? (I would actually argue against your point anyway, having also worked in ED&I for several years, but it’s not the point of the thread and frankly, I can’t be arsed to debate it with people who refuse to understand systemic racism). The fact that you work in ED&I and still fail to comprehend the point being made is very concerning, but also explains why ED&I initiatives tend to have such little impact.

The thread is about the expectation for her to be “grateful”, not about any “disadvantage” she may or may not be facing. So “Oh please” right back at ya.

BIWI · 29/06/2025 12:26

Has anybody got a link to prove that her ratings were dropping? Genuine question, because I can’t find anything.

The BBC have also said that they won’t rule out working with her again.

We have no idea why she’s been dropped ‘unfairly’. She hasn’t said, and nor has the BBC given any reason for it.

EasternStandard · 29/06/2025 12:29

bridgetreilly · 29/06/2025 12:03

She is exactly right. She shouldn’t have to act as if they did her a massive favour: the BBC used her for their own benefit, and now it’s no longer good for them they dropped her. That’s okay, that’s how businesses work. But she doesn’t have to be pathetically grateful for the scraps they deigned to throw her.

This happens with any presenter though. It’s pretty brutal. You can make a lot of money but can be dropped at any time.

Mildorado · 29/06/2025 12:31

BIWI · 29/06/2025 12:26

Has anybody got a link to prove that her ratings were dropping? Genuine question, because I can’t find anything.

The BBC have also said that they won’t rule out working with her again.

We have no idea why she’s been dropped ‘unfairly’. She hasn’t said, and nor has the BBC given any reason for it.

Edited

It's a combination of ratings and value for money. If she was really drawing the viewers in, she wouldn't be dropped!

CatRoleplayTycoon · 29/06/2025 12:31

askmenow · 29/06/2025 11:05

Its never the same thing is it..... if your excuse is skin colour!

Always putting it down the racial aspect is lazy. Her management comapny should have been more on the ball.

Every TV presenter has a time limited shelf life and you have to be fleet of foot to stay relevant....(like Jeremy Clarkson)

She's just soooo over.
Just bloody face facts, ALL channels need ratings even the licence funded BBC.
And all good things end!

Hopefully she will have invested wisely and can put her talents to use elsewhere instead of being bitter and playing the race card.

And this is from an ex BBC employee. Saying the BBC doesn't chase ratings is lying!
And the BBC has being practicing positive discrimination for many years. You'll find minority ethnicities are disproportionately represented per capita of the population.

But if the numbers dont work there's no excuse for keeping a programme running.

It is incredible to me that people still throw around the expression ‘playing the race card’.

BIWI · 29/06/2025 12:31

But have you got proof of that @Mildorado , that’s what I’m looking for.

ExercicenformedeZ · 29/06/2025 12:32

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/06/2025 12:20

she doesn’t have to be pathetically grateful for the scraps they deigned to throw her

I wouldn't call 10 years in a show "scraps", @bridgetreilly, but agree she shouldn't have to act as if they were doing her a massive favour.
That said nobody's said she should, only that she could perhaps be pleased with the excellent run she's had and accept like everyone else that these things come to an end

As you rightly say the BBC used her undoubted talents to suit themselves, though she certainly got a lot out of it in return (and so she should have done).
I'm just sorry that, through her own words, she's handed some the opportunity to claim that the warmth the rest of us so admired only applied when things were going her way

So you're saying that she has to be sweet and smiling at all times, or she will lose the goodwill she has built up? Just wow. You may not realise it, but that stance says a lot more about you than it does about her.

Outofthemoonlight · 29/06/2025 12:32

I remember wanting to KILL the person who, when my husband died, said "you have to be grateful for the years you had together"

But surely this would have been an add-on to an expression of condolences? It’s the sort of thing I might have said in an attempt to add a little ‘light at the end of a tunnel’ in a difficult conversation. I very much doubt that whoever said this meant to upset you, @godmum56 … I’m very sorry for your loss but many people simply don’t know what to say when trying to sympathize with or comfort a bereaved person.

TrainGame · 29/06/2025 12:33

People come and go…

As the saying goes “no one is indispensable”.

You only have to look at Megan and Stacey recently that people who complain generally don’t come off well.

I know it’s different but if you’ve watched the David Beckham documentary you’ll see he’s a master in forgiveness and bouncing back. He’s never griped, despite being treated appallingly very publicly but just lies low for a while and then comes back stronger.

Mildorado · 29/06/2025 12:33

BIWI · 29/06/2025 12:31

But have you got proof of that @Mildorado , that’s what I’m looking for.

Edited

I see, I read that on the BBC news website.

Jigaliga · 29/06/2025 12:34

I think she had way too long a run at it, she was a pretty good amateur Baker and a nice person but presumably so are lots of people. I thought she was underwhelming

Drfosters · 29/06/2025 12:34

inamarina · 29/06/2025 11:57

That’s an interesting point.
I‘m an immigrant in the UK and I‘ve been noticing people saying things like „we‘re lucky enough to be able to do X/ we‘re grateful for the opportunity to do Y“ quite frequently.

Exactly - I take grateful to mean thankful and appreciative. We are at our heart a Christian country and as a result that sort of psyche is part of our culture isn’t it. Being told to be thankful and appreciative. I know it was constantly in assemblies at school! I think we just have it ingrained in us to be grateful for good things that come our way

BingoBling · 29/06/2025 12:35

TrainGame · 29/06/2025 12:33

People come and go…

As the saying goes “no one is indispensable”.

You only have to look at Megan and Stacey recently that people who complain generally don’t come off well.

I know it’s different but if you’ve watched the David Beckham documentary you’ll see he’s a master in forgiveness and bouncing back. He’s never griped, despite being treated appallingly very publicly but just lies low for a while and then comes back stronger.

Very true about David Beckham, and the same with Kate Moss and Nigella Lawson.

dietmonkey · 29/06/2025 12:37

Hussain spoke of her experiences growing up in an immigrant household: “Gratitude became something that I was expected to wear like a uniform. Anytime I voiced frustration or sadness or wanted more, I could feel the invisible pressure.”

Back in the 70's and 80's we were ALL told to be grateful for what we had, we were scared of misbehaving, because there were real consequences and punishments, and we did what we were told, otherwise we'd get a clip round the ear. The snowflake generation hadn't been born yet. I expect Nadia's parents were aware of the stark contrast, between their own childhoods in Bangladesh, and the privileged upbringing that Nadiya was enjoying.

She can now retire at age 46, with her several million, whilst the rest of us have to work until we are 67.

Someone hand me the world's smallest violin.

JudgeJ · 29/06/2025 12:37

ItsUpToYou · 29/06/2025 09:30

She’s bringing race into it because it’s relevant. You won’t understand if you’re white, especially if you’re white and British-born, but others are forever being told to be “grateful” to Britain in a way that you will never be. It’s exhausting and I’m glad she’s telling everyone to fuck off in the politest way possible.

(ETA I also wouldn’t care if she said it in the most impolite way, but I imagine that would have created even more of an outrage…)

Edited

What convenient excuse would a white cook have were their show axed for poor ratings? Popular TV programmes get axed all the time when ratings drop, why does she think she's a special case?

crumblingschools · 29/06/2025 12:37

But people get dropped all the time on tv, usually to do with ratings but not always. Someone else probably got shunted out of the limelight to give space to Nadiya’s programmes. You see it all the time, a personality becomes flavour of the month and they are everywhere, and then replaced by someone else. Alison Hammond seems to be all over the screens at the moment, probably replacing Holly Willoughby

CatRoleplayTycoon · 29/06/2025 12:39

Outofthemoonlight · 29/06/2025 12:32

I remember wanting to KILL the person who, when my husband died, said "you have to be grateful for the years you had together"

But surely this would have been an add-on to an expression of condolences? It’s the sort of thing I might have said in an attempt to add a little ‘light at the end of a tunnel’ in a difficult conversation. I very much doubt that whoever said this meant to upset you, @godmum56 … I’m very sorry for your loss but many people simply don’t know what to say when trying to sympathize with or comfort a bereaved person.

So just say you’re sorry for their loss — don’t say something monumentally stupid and insensitive thst tries to tell someone newly bereaved how they ‘should’ or ‘must’ be feeling, or to tidy up their emotions into something palatable.

Birdsinginginthetrees · 29/06/2025 12:39

Kendodd · 29/06/2025 09:40

Actually (poor) white people are told to be grateful all the time.

And often sneered at by the liberal ruling class.

BIWI · 29/06/2025 12:40

Mildorado · 29/06/2025 12:33

I see, I read that on the BBC news website.

Link? Because I can’t find anything.

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