Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not provide DSS with a room

594 replies

Moorside111 · 28/06/2025 22:30

Currently living in rented accommodation with partner, our baby, my daughter from ex marriage and his son from his ex marriage. Both step children are 50/50 with their other parents. We currently live in a large house with lots of space and a bedroom for everyone. But the cost of this rent and associated bills is astronomical and we need to either buy our own 4 bed house or rent somewhere cheaper.

My partner earns double what I earn and works long hours. I have a less demanding job and so do most of the housework and childcare for our baby. This might sound ok- apart from the fact that we pay half each of the rent and bills for our current home. So I really feel like he’s onto a pretty good deal. I used to do childcare and school runs for DSS too and recently stopped….but that is another story.

I own a three bed semi, bought with the proceeds of my divorce, which I lived in with my daughter before I met my partner. It’s a lovely house which I renovated and is in a nice desirable area. It’s been rented out but the tenants have given notice to leave in August.

My partner sold his marital home, gave his ex wife 2/3 of the equity and has since burnt through the rest of the money. He has nothing for a deposit for a new home and so we need to sell mine, which would give us a decent deposit for a new 4 bed house.

Ive decided that I don’t want to move to another cheaper rented property, they’re rarely decorated nicely, don’t feel like home to me and I’d probably have to live in a less nice area to get the size we’d want for a cheaper price. So I’ve decided to move back into my 3 bed semi, spruce it up a little bit and eventually sell it- I’m estimating this might take 12 months or so. My daughter loves this house, it’s near school, friends and her dad. She’s looking forward to going back to her old room. When I initially told my partner that I thought this was the best idea, I discussed it with a view to us all moving there together- it would be cramped and not ideal- but it’s a home and only a stepping stone to us buying somewhere bigger. I suggested we put our 1yo baby in with us and decorate the 3rd bedroom for his son. He didn’t like this idea, said I wouldn’t put my daughter in the small room so why should he put his son. He said he’d rent a house so that his son could have more room and when his son was at his mums he would stay with me and our baby.
He suggested that his son and our baby could have the second double room and my daughter have the small room. This might be where I’m being selfish as I won’t compromise on my daughter- the room was hers to begin with, I don’t want her impacted by my choice to blend a family. She was happy to move in with partner and son btw and they all get on well so there’s no issues there. But I also selfishly don’t see why I should impact my daughter for someone else’s child.

We left it like this until this week where he’s realised the move is imminent and he’s now decided he wants to move to the three bed house with me. He said he doesn’t want to live apart from me and our baby- and I don’t want to live apart either. However, I’ve now planned to have a bedroom for each of my children. I going back to work this week, our 1yo is starting nursery, he’s a light sleeper and for the sake of both of us I think he needs his own room for a good nights sleep instead of us waking each other up in a shared room.

my partner has now decided he’ll convert the integral garage for his son so that he’ll have plenty of space. I initially said this would be ok but I’m now feeling uneasy about this too. He’s planning on doing this renovation himself. I didn’t think much damage could be done until he said he was planning on taking the garage door out and getting our friend to fit in some french doors so it would look more like a room. I have two issues with this:

1- friend has done work for me before and it’s shoddy. I worry what the finish of this DIY project will be.

2- the garage door was only put in a couple of years ago, it was expensive, it’s remote electric and matches the front door. The garage was newly rendered and it all looks smart from the road.

AIBU to say no to this project? It feels selfish and I’m basically saying I won’t allow a room to be made for DSS. Creating the room allows us to stay together and still have DSS over to stay. Surely lots of people would do anything to keep the whole family together.

i feel selfish, but also a bit angry that everything has fallen to me- childcare, bills, providing a home. Now I’m potentially damaging my home, my only asset, so that I can house his son.

I realise the phrase ‘his son’ sounds horrid from a step mum and it’s not a reflection of how I am at home. I care for him, treat him the same as my daughter and son. But in reality he has a mother and father- and it feels like his father’s job to ensure he has a house big enough for his family.

OP posts:
Energywise · 29/06/2025 15:24

You really have no excuse to behave foolishly. A lot of women would wish to be in your position. An easily affordable home in a nice area, for your children to have a lovely living space and security- do not ever give this up for a man.

im glad you are happy to let him rent on his own. He’s got a great deal here with you. He can’t make demands about his child when he brings nothing to the table. Do not let him touch your house with renovations.

blackpooolrock · 29/06/2025 15:30

I think at the very least you need a big conversation about finances and expectations. It sounds like your DP thought he could blow his money and use yours to buy a new house - massive red flag. Although you say his finances were nothing to do with you it sounds naive because you he spent the money on a holiday and car - i would have been asking questions at this point.

I don't think you should be paying 50-50 at all, again seems a red flag as he accepted it.

I think you would be mad to do a relatively sizable piece of work on your house to accommodate his DS - he will want a share of your house for this.

He sounds awful with money. whats his is his and whats yours is his.

DorothyStorm · 29/06/2025 15:40

It’s also been pointed out that any stamp duty, legal fees etc would have to come from the equity in my house
pointed out by who? Him?
he sounds like a waste of time tbh.

TheMeasure · 29/06/2025 15:48

He wants the best for his older son? But he wants you to fund it, at your daughter’s expense.

Buxusmortus · 29/06/2025 15:49

I'm getting so fed up of reading about men taking financial advantage of women. It's becoming an epidemic of women having to be the default care giver AND do the lions share of providing.

Well it wouldn't happen if so many solvent women ( mostly single mothers) weren't seemingly so desperate to combine finances and households with a man, any man, ignoring huge red flags, without ensuring their own financial safety beforehand. Happens all the time on this forum, is happening right now on this thread.
I despair of the number of women who can't see that they've landed themselves with a cocklodger.

SheilaFentiman · 29/06/2025 16:00

OP

How will baby’s childcare be funded when you are back at work? Hopefully not a straight 50/50, especially as you will not longer have your extra rent coming in.

Luddite26 · 29/06/2025 16:05

The more I read the more I get angrier. Come on OP. Value your own worth and set that example to your DD.

Greenvases · 29/06/2025 16:13

outerspacepotato · 29/06/2025 15:13

"Until I put my foot down recently I was also running around like a blue arsed fly doing two separate school runs a day so that I could collect his son, then making tea and providing childcare until he got back from work. So he really does get a good deal for 50% of the bills."

Bangmaidnanny.

"he has had his son 50/50 for the past few years and still paid maintenance. This was only possible by me doing a couple of school runs a week and providing childcare during school hols (I’m a teacher)
during maternity leave I stopped doing this as my baby was being in the car for 1 1/2 hour round trip, after dropping my own daughter off and then DSS. The children are at different schools with DSS being further away. There was no way I was keeping that going when I was back at work and also had to factor in a nursery drop before I even started my own "

He subsidized his son on your back. Why was he still paying maintenance but had you spend all your savings during maternity leave? And you had to run around doing his school runs to the detriment of your baby.

This guy is not the find you seem to think.

" I moved into a rented home with my partner first, so as not to risk my owned home. If it goes wrong then that’s life, couples split all the time. But I do have a good income, a suitable home so I can’t see how I’ve made bad decisions- even as a teacher 😆 who by the way make plenty of daft decisions"

You were paying your mortgage and instead of putting the rental money away to cover any emergency or necessary repairs, you were spending that and your child support and your savings on another house so you could live with this guy. Your relationship has worsened your financial profile quite a bit. Two kids now, a house in need of some renovation, and no savings at all. How are you going to finance those renovations? If he pays, he could get a claim.

This.

And OP, now without ANY savings because of this man thinks she has not made a single poor decision.?

Really?
Unbelievable OP.
Both you and your children deserve so much better that you being used like this.

So sad that you refuse to see what a disaster being bled dry by him is.

FinallyHere · 29/06/2025 16:36

Pinkflower100 · 28/06/2025 22:37

Do not sell your house to buy you all a bigger one when he has burned through his money!!!

This.

just don’t.

and don’t let him bodge something to wreck the value of your house. He is big going to enhance your life at all. Get rid.

SereneHare · 29/06/2025 16:55

cryptide · 29/06/2025 09:07

Get the garage conversion done by a good quality professional on the basis that your partner pays. If he has to get a loan for the purpose, so be it.

There might be issues if they split up. Funding something big like that could result in him having an interest in the property. Just because they aren't married doesn't mean he can't be compensated for his contribution.

I'd check the legality of this. It may have changed but OP needs to be careful about any financial arrangements relating to her property.

FinallyHere · 29/06/2025 16:55

“In every other way he is perfect”

is that perfect other than earning twice as much as you , splitting the bills 50:50, leaving you doing the majority of household and childcare chores, burning through the money from his divorce, insisting on his child’s room at the expense of your children and suggesting a known bodger to convert your garage … he is perfect

what a prince or in the words of MN’s nothing like a man in need of a roof over his head …

Greenvases · 29/06/2025 16:56

Loser men that want to control women will move in , do jobs and threaten to make a claim on the house.

OP has zero savings now because of him, and would be very vulnerable to such threats.

He can control and manipulate her by demanding she sell the house so that he is paid back.

This is a common mistake women like the OP make, in getting into a situation where you are used for childcare and paying for more than your share.

He could very soon have you where he wants you, living in your house, ruling the roost, doing jobs, saying he won't leave without being paid back.

The OP hasn't a penny, what would she do in this situation?

And yet the OP happily asserts that she hasn't put her daughter at risk? NOT put her home at risk, her daughters home at risk?
That everything is fantastic and rosy?

Potentially risking this loser getting some solicitor send a letter making a claim on her house?

I know of several women who were just as foolish having moved wasters in to their homes, allowed them make/force "improvements" upon the house.

They couldn't be told or advised by anyone, fortunately no children, thank goodness.

The advice from their own solicitors was give the waster some money just to get rid of them.

They have learned harsh lessons which cost them.
Fortunately no children involved though.

OP, please give this some serious thought.
We want you to protect yourself and your children, thats all.

SereneHare · 29/06/2025 17:02

I own a three bed semi, bought with the proceeds of my divorce, which I lived in with my daughter before I met my partner. It’s a lovely house which I renovated and is in a nice desirable area.

My partner sold his marital home.......and has since burnt through the rest of the money.

He has nothing for a deposit for a new home and so we need to sell mine, which would give us a decent deposit for a new 4 bed house.

I don't know what to say OP.

Please read this and read it again, and again, and again and all frigging night if need be, until you get it ❤

CherubEarrings · 29/06/2025 17:26

I am surprised you had a baby with this man.I would live separately from him.

Converting a garage definitely need to follow building regs and have building control inspections and possibly planning permission.

LotaWyseWomen · 29/06/2025 17:27

ByMerryTiger · 29/06/2025 14:03

I can’t see how I’ve made bad decisions

Oh. My. God.

Agreed.

And to compound the poor decision making, you’re not ruling out merging money with him: if we were to buy another new house with DP I’ve no doubt she would be excited again

I’m sure your dd would be a lot less excited if she realised that would jeopardise her future happiness.

You’re being exploited. And love bombed. It’s maddening you can’t see it.

BooneyBeautiful · 29/06/2025 17:38

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 13:45

Yes it’s integral- there is garden on the other side of the garage though so a window could be put there.
it would have to be looked into properly and perhaps it’s not even viable. I highly doubt DP will want to go to that much trouble anyway.
I think he will either rent somewhere of his own or accept the smaller bedroom for his son (which again, is a fine bedroom that I’m sure children across the country live full time in)

at this point and after hearing everyone’s opinions, I won’t be disagreeing he says he will rent somewhere else 😊

I was thinking about the houses in my road with integral garages. They are all terraced, so three of the four walls don't have external access. My friend converted her garage into a bedroom with en suite shower room so that her elderly DM could move in. It's very nice! Sadly, DM has long since died.

Isthisit22 · 29/06/2025 17:39

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 13:45

Yes it’s integral- there is garden on the other side of the garage though so a window could be put there.
it would have to be looked into properly and perhaps it’s not even viable. I highly doubt DP will want to go to that much trouble anyway.
I think he will either rent somewhere of his own or accept the smaller bedroom for his son (which again, is a fine bedroom that I’m sure children across the country live full time in)

at this point and after hearing everyone’s opinions, I won’t be disagreeing he says he will rent somewhere else 😊

Let’s face it, he’s too lazy to take any action himself so he’ll move in with his son. You just need to be firm about the small room as this man has proven time and again he is too lazy to do anything himself. He’s happy to let you run yourself ragged working and doing all childcare, he’s not going to arse himself finding a flat to rent.
in fact, not really sure what’s attractive about this man who requires you to pay 50% bills yet do 90% housework, childcare and all thinking required to be an adult.
What if you don’t let him move in? How many weeks before he’d be homeless as he hasn’t bothered to sort out where him and son were going to live.
he just thought he could threaten you with him living elsewhere- good for you calling his bluff. But are you sure you want this prize?

AndSoFinally · 29/06/2025 17:43

Don't take the garage door off and brick it up. Just disconnect the power and build a stud wall right behind it. You won't need building regs if you turn it back to a garage before you leave

Greenvases · 29/06/2025 17:49

Of course he will move in, but probably strop.
OP will let him and probably fawn about him and his huge sacrifice moving in to her house.

She'll eventually sell her house, marry him, and her house and her daughters original inheritance will be diluted 3 ways, if she's lucky to get anything.

Tale as old as time on MN, sadly.

Only on MN do you have women choosing to have babies after a good decade, with a new loser. In real life women have mostly far too much sense to want to start back at the baby stage a decade plus on.

I really hope the OP will refldct on how much he used her post partum as a skivvy driver for his child.

No man that genuinely gave a damn about you would dream of using you like that.

90 minute round trip for a new baby?.
Unbelievable.

CherubEarrings · 29/06/2025 17:50

AndSoFinally · 29/06/2025 17:43

Don't take the garage door off and brick it up. Just disconnect the power and build a stud wall right behind it. You won't need building regs if you turn it back to a garage before you leave

You will need building regs if making a garage into a bedroom

outerspacepotato · 29/06/2025 17:55

Oh shit, is he afraid that if he moves into a rental with his son, you'll file a claim for child maintenance?

"90 minute round trip for a new baby?.
Unbelievable."

If she did that twice a day, that would be 3 hours in a car seat daily for her baby. WTF.

MounjaroMounjaro · 29/06/2025 17:55

I think he'll move in with you and not pay rent, but moan his head off that it's not fair. The man landed on his feet when he met you and he won't let go easily.

I wouldn't let him put a penny into any renovations - you will bitterly regret that if you do. The end of your relationship seems inevitable and again, he will get every penny out of you. He won't just want the money back, he'll want the amount the value of the house has increased, too.

I just can't understand why so many women on here put up with selfish lazy greedy men who live off them financially. Date them if you want, but why live with them?

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/06/2025 17:59

Notsuchafattynow · 29/06/2025 10:53

Did you post before OP re the pick up / drop off situation (and mat leave)?

If so I remember MN telling you your DP and his ex were taking you for a ride.

If you are the same poster, my advice would be to leave the relationship.

Have you asked the question, why should DSS get the biggest room when he is there less than 50% of the time?

I rem that thread q

PunkyRubyLemur · 29/06/2025 18:04

Your husband is a selfish loser and you are ridiculous for putting up with him

JustASmallBear · 29/06/2025 18:05

Moorside111 · 29/06/2025 13:00

Yes, I used savings to cover my wage for 12 months- they just about got me to the end- I have no more savings now

Oh, OP!

And yet you think you've not made any poor decisions.

This man has really got himself a cushy little number with you paying for so much, doing all the household work, and you just tootling along thinking how nice it would be if he started saving money.

You even did all the stepson stuff until recently because he let you get on with it. Anything that makes his life easy.