If PIP won’t change unless you’re a new claimant, will reassessments be treated as old or new claimants?

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ForMyBenefit · 27/06/2025 14:03

I’m a little bit concerned that this could be a back door into enforcing the original plan to cut PIP for everybody.

it sounds all well and good to say a person who claims in the future will be under the new stricter regime, but what about those who only had an award for a year or two and have to reapply at the end of it. Do they count as a new claimant under the new rules?

I’m wondering if anybody’s even thought to ask.

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Citroenc1 · 01/07/2025 09:29

Alongthetowpath · 01/07/2025 08:07

Yes, prompting and supervision are woolly words!

I think the actual PIP descriptor terms are terrible, it seems like lots of people could fall between two descriptors. I think they should overhaul the wording first.

With regards to the “simple meal” that basically means putting a ready meal in a microwave.

We had to think this through with a relative who was desperate to be independent.

Does she know when mealtimes are? No, but we can set an alarm/phone and prompt for that.

Can she physically take the food out of the fridge or freezer? Yes

Can she check the use by date? No, she can’t read. So that would need supervision so she doesn’t eat mouldy food. But if we put it all in the freezer not the fridge, we only need to check rarely.

Can she remember to pierce the film? Might need prompting for that at first but can probably learn.

Can she physically put the food into the microwave? Yes

Can she check the cooking instructions and turn microwave to the correct time and power? No, she can’t read. Can someone prompt her? No, she can’t read the microwave display either.

No way round that one, someone will have to go in for mealtimes to supervise.

The issue with the descriptors is that they are primarily written for claimants with physical needs. They really did not consider the needs of those with intellectual impairments very well. One of mine has severe learning difficulties and a lot of questions are just really difficult to answer because it's a 'yes, but....'

creekyjohn · 01/07/2025 09:37

Morph22010 · 30/06/2025 20:17

Children moving from dla to pip will be new claimants though when they turn 16 (or 18 if they change it) so they’ll lose their dla and potentially not have it replaced.

The fact that this has been designed to hit the aging up children who have previously been on DLA seems to have missed the majority. New claims (as in adults who haven’t previously been a child on DLA) are a small jot in the ocean compared to the amount of disabled children who will be screwed over by this as they change into adult benefits. It’s been about hitting those young people all along. Fucking bastards.

PandoraSocks · 01/07/2025 09:44

creekyjohn · 01/07/2025 09:37

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Yes, I think you have a point. All the rhetoric has been around young people not working and "languishing"on disability benefits.

All the disability benefit bashers in MN have been bleating the same lines alongside their made up anecdotes.

Fucking bastards, as you say.

TheAutumnCrow · 01/07/2025 09:57

And meanwhile, Councils are effectively bankrupting themselves over social care budgets, are having to ration SEND budgets, and Central Government whistles with its hands in its pockets gazing skywards.

There's something really rather malevolent afoot regarding the government apparatus of the UK and children. Safeguarding scandal after safeguarding scandal, medical scandal after medical scandal, inquiry after inquiry, budget reduction after budget reduction, and lax sentencing guidelines for possession of images of child abuse.

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