issues with uc and being in limited for work group

[masterofdoom]

i'm in limited for work group on universal credit due to poor mental health i have activities i'm required to do which until today were always 12 hours or a few hours a week but today i had an appointment with my advisor told her i was struggling mentally after my meds were increased from 50 mg to 100 mg and i had been referred to a mental health nurse she tells me that i've to continue doing my activities for a few hours a week and that i had to accept my commitments or no money so i read through my commitments and my commitments have been increased from 12 hours to 20 hours a week after me just telling her i was struggling and wasn't sleeping its as if it went in one ear and out the other so i'm unsure what to do

Your posts are so uncalled for and you seem to have so little empathy that I struggle to see how you have mental health issues as if you did you would understand even just a little how the OP is struggling .

The trouble with this country is it’s turning people against each other and everyone feels like they are entitled to attack others who don’t work . But it doesn’t take a lot to be kind . And if you have nothing nice to say don’t say anything at all .

This.

Disappointing response from that poster towards someone who has shared they are struggling.

You're fine with someone who has such poor mental health that they couldn't possibly work, declining the support offered to them to help them with their mental health?

That's really odd, because on every other thread about disability, PIP, UC, and benefits, the reactions are quite the opposite.

I struggle. You've absolutely no idea how much, and believe me, it's a lot. Which is why it's baffling that the OP is trying to avoid support rather than welcoming it with open arms.

i didnt say i had an issue doing activities sqaush your twisting whats been said my issue was the hours for my activities being almost doubled from 12 to 20 when i had just told my advisor the increase in my anxiety meds hadnt helped and i had been reffered to a mental health nurse due to sleeping issues which on top of anxiety does inpact your day to day life and yet you imply that im being lazy and i just sit about all day getting money for nothing

ive asked for mental health support before but was refused by my gp as i said i wasnt suicidal the only reason why ive been offered it now is because my meds arent helping me as well as they should but your saying in refusing mental health support laughable ive sat here after losing both my parents iwhtin six months i looked after them both as they had long term health issues when they passed away i was exhausted then i was accused of all sorts by a brother who didnt help with our parents care because i was left more in our parents estate those accusations carried on for four years i was on my own yet in your mind im lazy and just sitting about all day taking advantage of the system you havent a clue

The fact that you are disabled yourself is exactly why your responses are particularly disappointing.

It's none of your business what that poster does all day quite frankly. She posted about UC requirements not to be judged on on her schedule or justify it by disclosing personal health information.

I'm fortunate enough to have never suffered from mental health issues but I have enough emotional intelligence to appreciate that they affect people in different ways.

You don't have to explain what you do all day to anyone on here. Not all mental health illnesses are the same. My dh couldn't attend all those groups either and finds it extremely hard to leave the house. He'd worked full time for 40 years when he became ill. He also has a number of physical and mental health illnesses. Just because someone else with mental health issues can leave the house, go to work etc doesn't mean that everyone with mental health issues can and you should not be made to feel guilty about it!

ok im done i can feel myself getting worse and if i stay in conversation theres things ill say which i dont want to because thats going to give somebody ammuniation i appreciate most of the posts on here thank you

Who on earth are you to judge another poster and suggest they aren't genuinely disabled.? Are you a psychiatrist?

And to then disparage their grammar when they've just disclosed the loss of both parents....mean and nasty comments and speaks volumes as to your character.

I won't engage further with someone who appears to get a kick out of goading a poster with mental health problems. Shameful.

I'm so sorry. I've reported the poster in question

I didn't say they weren't genuinely disabled.

No, I'm a psychologist.

We've all been through stuff. The difference is, how we deal with it. One of my mental illnesses is PTSD, from the extremely severe trauma I went through. Again, I was desperate for any support possible, because I wanted to get better.

The OP doesn't want support, they want to get their money without having to do anything. Can you not see that?

And yours seems to be an entire lack of empathy or human decency.

That'll be the neurodiversity. Which, incidentally, also doesn't prevent me from working.

Job centre advisors were all told 2 weeks ago that they have to try and up disabled claimants activity hours.

I don't know why.

If you can't do it, you can't do it, tell them at your next meeting. I would advise you to try and if you genuinely can't, then explain why you couldn't.

It's very very scary out there at the moment for disabled people and I understand why you're feeling frightened and unable to cope. They cannot tell you to attend support groups that make you more sick, but you do need to let them know this in your next meeting. Use your notes from your previous assessments if it helps. But do try to attend.

Good luck op.

@SquashedSquid You seem to think everyone is the same as you. I have ASD and ADHD and have struggles with mental health issues for most of my life. I find it very hard to engage with any help. I’ve had various counseling and therapy sessions started and abandoned, I struggle to make and go to doctors appointments and have refused group therapy as there’s no way I could go and engage with something like that. Do you think I don’t have mental health issues?

Get a sick note from your GP excusing you from everything for a month, and submit it. Tell the diary you're GP has signed you off as you're not mentally capable of doing them at this moment. That if your illness continues down this route you'll need reassessment as you are not able to fulfil the commitments.

'Therefore, I ask again... What do they do all day?'

The fuck is it to do with you? 😂😂😂 And why have you asked so many times? You're not entitled to an answer.

People are different to each other and are differently affected by their health conditions. Lick the boot if you must but don't expect much company.

What sort of neurodiversity causes you to sneer at another poster's punctuation?

Do I? How amusing, when I've clearly pointed out the differences between me and the OP, mainly being that people who are genuinely ill want nothing more than to improve. I've been so desperate with pain recently, that I've wanted to die. Do you think I'd turn down any support offered to me?

Congratulations, I do too, and struggle too. But, improving my physical and mental health is priority, so no matter how much I struggle, I have to push through.

I'm not sure what people aren't getting, here. It's a shame that when physically disabled people post their questions about benefits, they're met with negativity. Yet someone who won't engage with support posts, and that's fine? Weird.

Anyway, I'm off now. Back to work, and the pain that comes with it!

I meant the lack of empathy. The sneering at the poor SPaG is all me.

A ND psychologist should know that 1) It's neurodivergent, not neurodiverse and 2) Hyper-empathy is a lot more common in ND individuals than low empathy so that doesn't really explain it.