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To wonder why people are such morons?!

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proximalhumerous · 21/06/2025 18:13

Semi-lighthearted...

First moronic occurrence: Received an email yesterday copied to four people, so six people in the conversation altogether. Let's call them Alice, Ben, Charlotte, Dan, Emily, plus me.

So Ben had written to ask me to say in advance whether I need a particular item on a particular day. This item is provided by Dan. If I do need said item I should email Ben, copying in Alice, Charlotte and Emily. But not Dan. So basically now everyone is now in the loop apart from the one person who actually provides the item.

Second moronic occurrence: I emailed someone (not Alice, Ben, Charlotte, Dan, or Emily, as it happens!) requesting to book a room for a specified date in July. This person said she would check whether it was free. She then proceeded to write to all the other clients who make bookings for this room to ask whether they are using it on X date - which is an entire fortnight before I actually need it.

Third moronic occurrence: I wrote to ask for a refund for a train ticket, explaining that, owing to delays, I had had to purchase a new ticket and catch the following service on that route (a four-hour journey) half an hour later. I was asked whether I had used both tickets.

Please make me feel better with other tales of people's idiocy.

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proximalhumerous · 21/06/2025 18:55

No-one?!

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CantHoldMeDown · 21/06/2025 19:07

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Shesellsseashellsnotinmystreet · 21/06/2025 19:10

Car up my arse for about half a mile in the right lane...approaching traffic lights which go left or right as per the lane... I stay right. He has his lights on assume a PA move..
Then he turned left at the lights...

CaptainFuture · 21/06/2025 19:13

'Moron' and 'moronic' not really best words to use.

proximalhumerous · 21/06/2025 19:20

CaptainFuture · 21/06/2025 19:13

'Moron' and 'moronic' not really best words to use.

Why not? I realise they're not complimentary terms, but are we no longer allowed to (anonymously) call people stupid when they do something objectively stupid?

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proximalhumerous · 21/06/2025 19:22

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I can imagine...

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proximalhumerous · 21/06/2025 19:23

Shesellsseashellsnotinmystreet · 21/06/2025 19:10

Car up my arse for about half a mile in the right lane...approaching traffic lights which go left or right as per the lane... I stay right. He has his lights on assume a PA move..
Then he turned left at the lights...

Being an idiot (is that allowed??) behind the wheel sort of ceases to be lighthearted.

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Shesellsseashellsnotinmystreet · 21/06/2025 19:33

But in his moronic mind I had dared to be ahead of him. No other explanations..

SquashedSquid · 21/06/2025 19:37

proximalhumerous · 21/06/2025 19:20

Why not? I realise they're not complimentary terms, but are we no longer allowed to (anonymously) call people stupid when they do something objectively stupid?

Some people still see it as an ableist slur, due to its historical use. However, as a disabled person, I personally think it's fine. Language evolves, and I doubt many people know what the word originally was. Saying that, I don't speak for all disabled people.

RichHolidayPoorHoliday · 21/06/2025 19:40

Have you got children in Primary school?

You know the saying: there's not stupid question...
Challenge accepted by school parents unfortunately. It's another level of stupidity beyond words.

Lifestooshort71 · 21/06/2025 19:41

Can we accept that, in this thread, 'moron' and 'moronic' are not being used as ableist slurs?

proximalhumerous · 21/06/2025 19:42

SquashedSquid · 21/06/2025 19:37

Some people still see it as an ableist slur, due to its historical use. However, as a disabled person, I personally think it's fine. Language evolves, and I doubt many people know what the word originally was. Saying that, I don't speak for all disabled people.

I wasn't aware of that. I didn't intend that meaning, and in fact I even looked it up on a couple of sites before posting for exactly that reason; to check it didn't mean anything more sinister than "foolish, stupid or unintelligent", but apologies for any offence caused.

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Badbadbunny · 21/06/2025 19:42

People just don't read emails properly. Nor texts, nor anything really. We seem to have lost the art of attention to detail.

I'll commonly send emails to clients asking whether something is "x" or "y" and get a message back of "yes", or a thumbs up emoji! These are typically educated professional people like doctors, architects, surveyors, IT consultants, etc., yet they can't answer a simple email.

I learned long ago never to ask two questions in a single email as people just can't cope with two things at once. Now I send an email with one question, and when they answer (hopefully with a proper answer), I send another email with another question, and so it goes on. I hate it when other people do that to me, i.e. my solicitor or tax consultant, but I now know why they do it. It's the only way to have a hope of getting answers. People seem to get bored easily, so can't actually read through an email properly and answer more than one point raised!

Not just emails either. Many times, I write a letter or short report to a client which is pretty simplistic, i.e. I've declared your income as x, y and z which leads to a tax bill of a on b date. Then they'll make an appointment and come in for a meeting with the letter and ask what it means, and when I just read it back to them, i.e. declare x, y and z and the tax is due on b date, they're happy and we then have a small talk chat and they go away again - I've literally added nothing to what was in the letter, but they clearly just couldn't be arsed to read it. Like I say, these are professional people, so it's not a lack of literacy skills!

proximalhumerous · 21/06/2025 19:45

Lifestooshort71 · 21/06/2025 19:41

Can we accept that, in this thread, 'moron' and 'moronic' are not being used as ableist slurs?

Thank you (and to other PPs) for not immediately rushing to be offended when no offence was intended.

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3luckystars · 21/06/2025 19:45

Can I just ask, what words are you actually allowed use for stupid now?

Thick
Stupid
idiot

proximalhumerous · 21/06/2025 19:48

Badbadbunny · 21/06/2025 19:42

People just don't read emails properly. Nor texts, nor anything really. We seem to have lost the art of attention to detail.

I'll commonly send emails to clients asking whether something is "x" or "y" and get a message back of "yes", or a thumbs up emoji! These are typically educated professional people like doctors, architects, surveyors, IT consultants, etc., yet they can't answer a simple email.

I learned long ago never to ask two questions in a single email as people just can't cope with two things at once. Now I send an email with one question, and when they answer (hopefully with a proper answer), I send another email with another question, and so it goes on. I hate it when other people do that to me, i.e. my solicitor or tax consultant, but I now know why they do it. It's the only way to have a hope of getting answers. People seem to get bored easily, so can't actually read through an email properly and answer more than one point raised!

Not just emails either. Many times, I write a letter or short report to a client which is pretty simplistic, i.e. I've declared your income as x, y and z which leads to a tax bill of a on b date. Then they'll make an appointment and come in for a meeting with the letter and ask what it means, and when I just read it back to them, i.e. declare x, y and z and the tax is due on b date, they're happy and we then have a small talk chat and they go away again - I've literally added nothing to what was in the letter, but they clearly just couldn't be arsed to read it. Like I say, these are professional people, so it's not a lack of literacy skills!

Absolutely! So many people's reading skills - or perhaps abilities to focus - are sub-primary level.

As you say, there's no point including multiple questions in an email as you will invariably only get an answer to the first one. This even happens when I write to the administrator where I work, whose job (evidently) is to process admin. Infuriating, and such a waste of time!

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CantHoldMeDown · 21/06/2025 19:48

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feelingbleh · 21/06/2025 19:48

I ask myself this everyday working in retail

TeenLifeMum · 21/06/2025 19:49

Today I stopped at a small service station and due to the set up you drive into the space. When you leave you just reverse straight back then follow the one way system to the right with new traffic coming from the left. Another car arrived as I was about to leave and there were no other spaces. She left a space for me to reverse into but not quite big enough. Space behind her but no attempt from her to go backwards. I reversed using my camera so was pretty close but I could see there was still a gap. She hooted and waved arms yelling I nearly hit her… I didn’t but had to go back that far to avoid a 20 point turn. Ended up having to manoeuvre back and forward a couple of times to get the angle. She just needed to give me 2 feet extra space and id have done it no issue, yet somehow she got angry with me. Bonkers.

proximalhumerous · 21/06/2025 19:49

3luckystars · 21/06/2025 19:45

Can I just ask, what words are you actually allowed use for stupid now?

Thick
Stupid
idiot

Bugger tautology - I'm just going to refer to people as thick stupid idiots now. TSIs for short.

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DanDin · 21/06/2025 19:54

It's carrots not carrot.

NewGoldFox · 21/06/2025 19:55

People make mistakes.
Are you one of those people who forgive their own mistakes easily but would see others hauled over the coals.

feelingbleh · 21/06/2025 19:56

Iv got a good one. I moved house and didn't get very good signal with current provider so when my contract ended I rang to cancel and I told her why and she kept offering it for cheaper and I explained again that I wouldn't even want it if it was free as it wouldnt work after her finally accepting this after about another 10 minutes of trying to lower the price she then said is their anyone else in your household who would be interested in moving over to us. I then had to explain again through gritted teeth that as they live in my household it means it also wouldn't work for them as they would also get no signal. I still dont think she grasped it.

proximalhumerous · 21/06/2025 19:58

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Excellent! I shall henceforth refer to all foolish people as carrots.

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