Ratio of men to women in china

[Thomasina79]

Apparently there are 30 million more men than women, due to a past history of favouring boys over girls, with abortions of female fetid, adoption of girls, even baby girls being abandoned by the road. So I can’t feel much sympathy about this. The phrases you reap what you sow comes to mind. I remember years ago seeing ‘The dying rooms’ about baby girls in orphanages being starved. Now the men are complaining that they have no one to marry!

Yes, Northern Vietnam and other places, kidnapping has increasing. Horrifying.

Im Chinese.
Ive seen it.

Would be interesting to see if scarcity of "females" (said in the voice of.martin from Friday night dinner) results in the men of China upping their game in any way.

Carrying more mental load
Aiming higher in terms of treatment of their partner
Doing more in the home
Generally being "higher quality" and offering more to women

Edit: given some are kidnapping women... apparently not.
This makes for a depressing read.

There are about 100 million females missing from the global population. Sadly it isn't just about sex scans etc. It is prioritising males for food and medicine over females and in some areas, femicide.

This also isn't just China. The last count it was 100 million missing it is estimated to be about 120 million missing now.

Not quite sure what you want from this thread, op, it’s a well-known and expected consequence of one-child policy and misogyny. Men actually commit the crimes that feminism has been accused of too, killing girl babies in large numbers around the world. I’d like to see the results @ZImono mentions but share her scepticism.

Completely anecdotal, I am noticing that immigrants here seem to produce many more male children than female. It’s been puzzling me for a while. Is anyone else noticing that, or is it just that the male youngsters are more visible on the streets? I see them going to school though.

The most depressing thing is that at the time we saw this policy as an abhorrent, and yet it was reversed because the government was worried of the consequences of an aging population. And now the population are against it because their precious boys can’t get wed and pass on the family name…not because it was a fucking sick thing to do to the girls. Even the outrage is powered by misogyny

My son was in kindergarten in China. In his class of 30, 2 were female. That kind of disparity is neither natural or sustainable. Awful.

That disparity is huge. I taught EFL in Taiwan in the 90s and my main class had 12 boys and four girls. Other teachers had similar mixes in their classes.

Yes I imagine mainland China is different because of legal environment. I wrote a paper on the one child policy due to my experiences. Too much to write about here….

Interestingly it happens as a quirk. I will add for balance. when my daughter was in school kindergarten in the uk (Scottish village) she became the 2nd girl in a class of 17!

I wonder what will happen in Afghanistan as women are treated so poorly many more will die of ill health and in pregnancy & childbirth.

Yes but China is not one country, one class, one ethnic group, one city vs countryside vs mountain vs periphery group of people. You can’t generalise.

The OCP in and of itself was not misogynist nor a particularly terrible thing to do to girls. It was the way in which many, many individuals reacted to the OCP that was horrendous for girls.

It was also a stupid, short-sighted policy for all the reasons that led to its reversal

Or is that because learning English was seen as useful to boys but not girls?

DD2 did her dissertation for her degree on the failure of the one child policy in China.

Her OH is coincidentally from mainland China, and we see the consequences of it within their family over here.