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Bare minimum dog ownership

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Luggagerackistopheavy · 20/06/2025 19:08

I am a dog owner and a dog lover but as the tourists decend on my town at this time of year the appalling dog owners arrive.

Aibu to think this is bare minimum for dog ownership?

  1. If your dog doesn't have bomb proof recall keep it on a lead or a long line.
  2. Keep your dog on a lead next to roads. It's just idiotic not to even if you feel your dog is bomb proof.
  3. Do not allow your little Fluffy to approach an on lead dog without asking. Your dog might be friendly but can you guarantee that the other dog is?
  4. If your dog is off lead keep it in your sight at all times.
  5. Do not allow little Fluffy to jump up at people. If you can't stop them, get them on a lead.
  6. If your dog is playing with others for goodness sake supervise them and put a stop to it instantly if any dog appears uncomfortable or over excitable.
  7. Your dog is not well trained just because they can give a paw, do a twirl, roll over etc. Good training is about recall, focus on their owner, behaviour while meeting others and behaviour while playing, stopping when told, not jumping up, not excessive barking etc.

Aibu to think this is bare minimum dog ownership?

OP posts:
intrepidpanda · 21/06/2025 12:57

Perhaps we should just rethink if people need to be owning pets.

Luggagerackistopheavy · 21/06/2025 13:19

ItDoesntHaveToBeASnowman · 21/06/2025 10:08

Why do people always describe recall as having to be “bomb proof”? Always with the bomb proof. Are there no other adjectives? You hardly hear bomb proof used for anything else.

Why does it matter?

OP posts:
Luggagerackistopheavy · 21/06/2025 13:23

GanninHyem · 21/06/2025 10:34

I am a dog owner and a dog lover but as the tourists decend on my town at this time of year the appalling dog owners arrive.

Where is this mythical magical town where all the dog owners are top notch and you're only affected when the disgusting tourists hit??

Edited

I didn't say every local was a wonderful owner but there's a marked difference when the tourists decend.

OP posts:
redboxer321 · 21/06/2025 13:29

ibblebibbledibble · 21/06/2025 10:30

You’re the worst kind of dog owner.

Yep.

Luggagerackistopheavy · 21/06/2025 13:34

ibblebibbledibble · 21/06/2025 10:30

You’re the worst kind of dog owner.

This!

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Bigoldtable · 21/06/2025 13:39

SweetLathyrus · 21/06/2025 12:13

@BennyBee , you are SO wrong. What you have there is a dog with no manners who should under no circumstances be approaching a dog who is under control on a lead.

If a dog is on a lead because it is reactive, the owner is being responsible and protecting your dog as well as theirs.

Like @Bigoldtable 's dogs, mine return to me if they see another dog approaching. I have one who is friendly, but mostly prefers sniffing and exploring to other dogs, and one who is reactive sometimes, but I always assume he will be so he is on a lead around other dogs. He is reactive because he was attacked and subsequently, I can't persuade him 'friendly' dogs are safe if they won't read his body language and leave him alone.

Totally agree. I have one that is reactive due to his life before we adopted him, so he’s always on lead. At home, I can introduce any dog with no problem because he will follow my lead but when we are out and someone’s dog comes running up to him? He hates it and he will react. He is under control, the other dog is not. And you are exactly right, these are excitable dogs who don’t read his body language. What the “oh he’s friendly” brigade really mean is “he doesn’t come back because I haven’t bothered to train him”.

Whatveudone4melately · 21/06/2025 16:54

MuffinsAreJustCakesAtBreakfast · 21/06/2025 06:30

Agree. When they yell "they're friendly!!" I always wonder why are they telling me that?

The reason they're yelling that to me that is because the alternative (recalling their dog) won't work.

That’s why my reply is “I don’t care. Get your dog away from me and under control.”

Last said to my neighbour as her dog prepared to jump on me for the second day in a row.

BennyBee · 21/06/2025 21:59

ibblebibbledibble · 21/06/2025 10:30

You’re the worst kind of dog owner.

You are the worst kind of human being, judgemental and full of hate for other people going about their lives, normally.

All the dog owners where I live are friendly and enjoy the interaction between their dogs. I am sorry that your life has made you so sour and bitter.

OonaStubbs · 21/06/2025 22:04

The sooner the owning of pet dogs is banned, the better. They cause nothing but misery and conflict.

Stellaris22 · 21/06/2025 22:07

BennyBee · 21/06/2025 21:59

You are the worst kind of human being, judgemental and full of hate for other people going about their lives, normally.

All the dog owners where I live are friendly and enjoy the interaction between their dogs. I am sorry that your life has made you so sour and bitter.

This. Where I am dogs play and interact, share treats and have a great time. They welcome new digs and puppies.

Dogs are sociable animals, if you don’t like this spare a dog a lonely life and don’t get one.

AudHvamm · 21/06/2025 22:27

MidnightPatrol · 21/06/2025 09:02

I appreciate that if you have a reactive dog the presence of other dogs might be an issue…

… but I don’t think the solution to that is every other dog having to be kept on a lead, not being able to sniff other dogs etc. They are ultimately dogs and they need freedom to be a dog.

If your dog is very reactive and unable to cope, I think the solution to that is walking your dog somewhere you won’t see other dog walkers.

I live somewhere with a lot of dogs (and a lot of visitors with dogs) and I can’t think of the last time I saw any dubious dog/owner behaviour when out walking.

I agree with you. Dogs are social creatures and the anxiety around letting them interact doesn't want to allow for that. I think it's heightened since the pandemic, the dogs picked up all the awkwardness and sadly some have become more reactive.

AudHvamm · 21/06/2025 22:28

ibblebibbledibble · 21/06/2025 10:30

You’re the worst kind of dog owner.

Then I am too 😂

LoughboroughBex · 21/06/2025 22:31

BennyBee · 20/06/2025 22:18

YABU. Around my way, most dogs are off lead in public parks and enjoy playing and chasing and sniffing each other while the owners chat or stroll. No one has ever complained except owners of aggressive dogs on leads.

My dog is not "fluffy" but is totally chill. I am bemused by owners of problem dogs who have to keep them on a lead who get upset when my non aggressive dog approaches their aggressive dog. It is not my dog that is the problem, its yours! Stay home if you can't control your dog, or put a muzzle on it.

The only time my dog is a nuisance is during the summer when people are having picnics. He loses all recall when there is a possibility of a mini sausage around. Many picknickers like to feed my dog these treats, which only makes his recall worse, so I do just keep him on a lead if there are picnics around.

If your dog is approaching on lead dogs then you clearly can’t control it so you should either put it on a lead or stay at home. You are in fact the problem.

HangingOver · 21/06/2025 22:34

I am bemused by owners of problem dogs who have to keep them on a lead who get upset when my non aggressive dog approaches their aggressive dog. It is not my dog that is the problem, its yours! Stay home if you can't control your dog

I don't think that's entirely fair. If my dog, who is always on lead, gets approached by an off lead Shepard or mallenois he will bark loudly but that's because he got attacked by one and is terrified of them.

Stellaris22 · 21/06/2025 22:43

AudHvamm · 21/06/2025 22:27

I agree with you. Dogs are social creatures and the anxiety around letting them interact doesn't want to allow for that. I think it's heightened since the pandemic, the dogs picked up all the awkwardness and sadly some have become more reactive.

This. Dogs are sociable animals. If you don’t like it don’t get a dog, don’t make the dog suffer.

Where I am dogs play and share treats. Owners talk and socialize. Get a cat if you hate interaction, don’t make a dog suffer from your anxiety and refusal to interact.

BennyBee · 21/06/2025 23:56

HangingOver · 21/06/2025 22:34

I am bemused by owners of problem dogs who have to keep them on a lead who get upset when my non aggressive dog approaches their aggressive dog. It is not my dog that is the problem, its yours! Stay home if you can't control your dog

I don't think that's entirely fair. If my dog, who is always on lead, gets approached by an off lead Shepard or mallenois he will bark loudly but that's because he got attacked by one and is terrified of them.

Yes, I think this conversation thread seems a bit too black and white. Like most social interactions, those between dog owners involve a lot of nuance and responsiveness to specific situations. If I see an owner looking nervous, I will call my dog away but in the 5 years I have had my dog, it has only happened a handful of times (and that is with 3x walks every day). Usually, a bit of eye contact or body language indicates when there might be a problem. Most dog owners like dogs and are glad for their dog to have interactions with others - when that is not the case, it can be sorted out. I just think people with problem dogs shouldn't make out that normal dogs are the actual problem, when they are not. This thread seems to have a lot of posters who dislike dogs and therefore dog owners, full stop.

ibblebibbledibble · 22/06/2025 07:07

AudHvamm · 21/06/2025 22:28

Then I am too 😂

I guess you are. Well done.

ibblebibbledibble · 22/06/2025 07:08

BennyBee · 21/06/2025 21:59

You are the worst kind of human being, judgemental and full of hate for other people going about their lives, normally.

All the dog owners where I live are friendly and enjoy the interaction between their dogs. I am sorry that your life has made you so sour and bitter.

I’m not sour and bitter. You’ll be sour and bitter when your dog approaches a reactive dog on a lead and gets bitten.

witwatwoo · 22/06/2025 07:19

OonaStubbs · 21/06/2025 22:04

The sooner the owning of pet dogs is banned, the better. They cause nothing but misery and conflict.

Oh give over you loon

bittertwisted · 22/06/2025 07:22

Wolfiefan · 20/06/2025 19:24

I’m afraid I would assume an off lead dog was ok with other dogs being around. Mine wouldn’t run up to a dog and bounce on them but they may approach and “greet” them. Could be lucky with where we walk.

My rule of thumb. Reasonable one too I think

Clearheaded · 22/06/2025 08:08

Sandy420 · 21/06/2025 09:04

Personally I think all cats should be kept inside/in peoples gardens. Dogs don't dig up my vegetable seeds, shit in my strawberry beds, shit on my lawn where I want to sit/eat, sit under my bird table waiting to catch birds or kill loads of wildlife (birds/shrews/slow worms I've all seen recently killed by cats).

I'd much rather people kept cats in their gardens than people kept dogs in their garden as I'd rather have a dog bounce up to me than I would have cat shit in amongst my asparagus (I don't have a cat or dog).

I agree with this.

@Luggagerackistopheavy what about people who want to acknowledge all the dogs? Should this interaction be allowed? Are the dogs allowed to respond?

Candleabra · 22/06/2025 08:16

I never have picnics now as there is ALWAYS a dog that comes over and tries to eat the food with the owner smiling indulgently as though it’s my fault, whilst offering a half hearted apology.

HangryLikeTheHulk · 22/06/2025 09:28

intrepidpanda · 21/06/2025 12:57

Perhaps we should just rethink if people need to be owning pets.

I agree. Keeping an animal at the end of a bit of string for your own amusement is unhinged.

greencartbluecart · 22/06/2025 09:30

You missed clearing up the poo

greencartbluecart · 22/06/2025 09:31

Oh yes the “oh you have food” as though I am to blame for eating when their dog arrives