“Suncream causes cancer…”

[dillydally79]

I have just read this headline as Kelsey Parker has supposedly stated this during a recent podcast.

I have never heard this before, but i am consciously trying to make healthy changes in other areas of mine and my kids lives so I am interested. Anyone know more? I’ve never really thought about this before as I just think of suncream as a necessity, but is it??

Are you seriously asking this?

Sun cream has saved millions from melanoma, one of the most aggressive and under diagnosed cancers.

Show me one peer reviewed article that evidences modern sun cream causing cancer? You won't find one.

You could argue that when first invented some of the substances used were probably carcinogenic. But it's not the 1950's anymore.

How odd that two posters started threads on this within a ten-minute period.

Yes I seriously am. I was shocked at the amount of comments under the news article that were agreeing with her statement. Apparently she uses bees wax instead. I have never heard of this before so I am asking a question.

Surely you know that it’s conspiracy theory bollocks?

2 threads dissing sunscreen on here - posted in less than half an hour of each other?!

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5358552-new-online-trend-to-say-its-better-not-to-wear-sunscreen?reply=145128429

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Obviously you need to bloody use it. What's with the conspiracy theories today?!

Kelsey Parker, the dermatologist? Or Kelsey Parker, the oncologist? Or is it the Kelsey Parker who is an eminent scientist specialising in cancer research? No. Oh well.

If you generally take your health advice from the comments under a newspaper article quoting a podcast host with no medical qualifications, I can’t help you.

have not seen the other thread however I’m pretty sure I didn’t diss it..

Mental. Genuinely scary that this “influencer/TV personality” is trusted with kids, and people treat her conspiracy theories like a source of possible information on which to base the parenting and protection of their own kids.

Oddly, the dermatologist who removed pre cancerous cells from DH's head disagrees.

I think i'll follow her advice rather than some random off the telly.

Kelsey Parker who lost her husband to cancer?
FML. What a stupid woman.

Oh FFS! Why would you expect some vacuous 'influencer' to know more about this than the entire medical industry. Turn your brain on and don't listen to people with zero qualifications and who have no idea what they are talking about.

I don't think suncream causes cancer. I do think over reliance on suncream can be a problem. Lots of people don't realise there is a limit to the length of time you can be in the sun even with sunscreen on and stay out too long thinking they're protected.

It may well be more sensible to wear clothing that covers your skin and seek shade than spend all day in the sun with sunscreen on.

Of course they cause cancer, they are full of chemicals! Get out in the sun gradually, do not burn, stay in the shade…ta da…

It’s the same idiots that talk about sunscreen being full of chemicals. When we’re all made of chemicals. Literally, that’s how it works. Don’t get me started on people who insist that factor 50 is no benefit vs factor 15. It might not make any difference depending on the weather conditions and specific skin type but I’ll burn in under 10 mins so factor 50 is my spirit animal.

I can't wear sunscreen due to allergies so I just stay out of the sun and remain covered up if I do have to go out.

Yeah you see a lot of this these days. My Facebook has recently been flooded with misogynists saying that men do tougher jobs and women can't manage without them.

Trite bollocks clearly but a weirdly worded thread popped up on mumsnet slating wimmin's light easy jobs at exactly the same time.

I have read this three times now and still can’t understand the point you are trying to make….

Which cancers are SPF's causing? Or just general 'cancer'...

Actually, unless I misunderstood there could be some truth in this. I listened to a Huberman podcast with Dr Soleymani who IS a board certified derm and cancer specialist. From what I could gather, some sunscreens do NOT protect against BCC (possibly other skin cancers - can't remember). BCC are caused by sun and sunscreen can protect against premature signs of ageing, but researchers are struggling to understand why they're not prevented entirely by sunscreen. Their guidance was cover up/minimise sun exposure. So, logically, if you're using sunscreen you are likely to stay outside longer hence increasing risk of skin cancer. I don't recall there being any mention of sunscreen ingredients being carcinogenic.

I've long suspected that part of the increase in skin cancer might be down to heavy use of suncream.

I'm not saying it's true, but it wouldn't surprise me if future research finds that to be the case. Afterall, all the research saying how important it is to use and keep reapplying suncream is financed by the skin care industry, in the same way that the now debunked "healthy" low fat high carb diet was funded by the food industry. They're not going to tell us if they actually know we don't need to use so much or that using it too much is dangerous. The food industry knew all along sugar was very bad.

For that reason I don't use it a lot. I do use it when needed, but mostly prefer to limit sun exposure when possible. I don't hold with the idea that we should be covering our faces with strong chemicals all year round, for example. Others will make their choices for their reasons, but that's mine.

So, whilst I agree absolutely it's vital we continue to protect ourselves from the sun, I don't think OP is wrong to be questioning things.

How can people believe such nonsense?!

Beeswax. LOL Is she made of wood? I would suggest you do some proper research and use your brain @dillydally79. Start by looking at the Australian skin cancer/melanoma rates and research into sun protection. Then decide whether you want to let your kids in the sun without science backed UV protection.

I have no idea who Kelsey Parker is but suncream literally does the opposite of causing cancer and that's not in dispute. It'd be easy to laugh at the sheer stupidity of this sort of claim but it's actually pretty terrifying that someone might genuinely think this and might also have a platform to get others thinking it. You have a responsibility to ignore this sort of dangerous bullshit for the sake of your children.

I just use a low factor, as (without any scientific proof of course from any source) I don't think there's any difference between 15 and 50.

I kind of agree that sunscreen is good for protecting against ageing, but I'm not so sure it protects against melanoma. I'm beyond worrying about wrinkles now, and as it's impossible to avoid SOME sun exposure I put it on my face, neck, back of neck and forearms. Even today I have on long loose cotton trousers, a loose very light linen top with long sleeves and a light baseball hat. That's me in the Summer! I do have darker pigmented skin and have never burned.