Assisted dying for paedophiles and life-prisoners

[PansyPotter84]

There’s a lot in the media at the moment about Assisted Dying and Abortion.

Here’s an idea…

Assisted dying for paedophiles and life-sentence prisoners.

Offer them, say £50,000 to the family member, victim or charity of their choice to accept a lethal injection.

Win win for society?

Discuss…

Christ, we are a broke country and going to offer someone £50k to allow the state to murder them!

get away with you

The state could livestream it too and make some money off the clicks? I mean why not?

FFS.....

I think the point they're making is that it costs a lot more than 50k to house prisoners for years and years.

Not saying I'm agreeing but that's what the OP is saying.

There are literally hundreds of studies regarding how the death penalty is a pointless costly waste of time on so many levels.
It doesn't prevent crime, it costs more to implement than just keeping people alive in prison does.
And then morally. I personally think it's completely backwards and has no place in a civilised society. It's just murder.
And you may think 'great!' When it's the people you have decided it's OK to dehumanise, who are getting murdered by the state.. but you've essentially given the state the legal power to murder people so what happens when a government get voted in who you don't agree with who start murdering people you can no longer dehumanise?

And if you are trying to make some point about the assisted dying bill being shit then that's just really stupid. Murdering people is not exactly the same as people who have terminal illnesses being given the right to consent to assisted dying instead of going through a potentially lingering and traumatic death.
Secret ingredients being both CONSENT and the fact these people are already dying.
It doesn't mean we can just murder anyone we don't like.

Incentivising people to commit heinous crimes so that their family benefit from a cash payout is perverse.

Cmon OP, give your head a wobble.

I wouldn’t pay them but I’m not offended by the idea of offering assisted suicide to prisoners of heinous crimes. It’s not like paedophiles get better in prison.

If I was facing a long sentence and had done something awful I think I’d consider it.

No as a survivor i belive that they should serve there sentence .This also allows time for other victims to come forward.
As a nurse the assisted dying Bill has been a long time coming and I welcome it for terminally I'll people who would otherwise have far less dignity in there own death . This bill means that people can choose not to suffer in agony or be on such heavy medication they are sleeping for for days weeks while the family sits and waits for the inevitable.
The importance of this bill is so monumental I can't actually believe that criminals and paedophiles have even been mentioned.

I support the Assisted Dying Bill but when I read posts like this it does give me pause for thought.

My father knew the hangman before WW2. Capital punishment was stopped in part due to the deaths of Ruth Ellis and Derek Bentley. Dan Walker the journalist looked at the issues on capital punishment he was very upset about it. I would not want to see it reinstated. It was stopped around 1950 I think.When you see the deaths of the girls at the Taylor Swift concert it's understandable why people suggest it should be reinstated. I have concerns about people who want the choice to die at a time of their choosing. When you're very ill with cancer the drugs that you are prescribed will shorten your life. I think there are some very strong minded people like Esther Rantzen who have the strength of mind to be able to go through with it. The actress Liz Carr made some very strong reasons to oppose it.

Some criminals may also have or will develop terminal illness during their incarceration. I think there was an amendment to maid in Canada to allow it to be carried out for those in custody of federal facilities.

Its not a massive stretch to think that those with guilty consciences may have “unbearable suffering “ which is the Dutch standard.

The slippery slope arguement would tell us that in a few decades it’d be an option. It’s unpalatable but honestly why spend hundreds of thousands of pounds keeping someone alive who’d rather be dead. What does society gain?

This sort of thing is why I would always vote against assisted dying. It's the start of a slippery slope you only have to look at the situation in Canada to see that.

So when a person with a mental health issue or learning difficulty or lesser extent a normal person is wrongly charged and they accept the payment to be killed by your method as they feel its the right thing to do or feel pressured and we discover they were wrongly convicted what are you going to do OP?

I know.

I'm embarrassed for those who did.

Well it didn’t take long for nasty people to suggest new uses for assisted dying. I’d like to say I was surprised.

You don't understand... anything.

Hmmm! Started on the sherbet a bit early have we?

Don’t kid yourself.

This kind of legislation is designed so that old and disabled people can be killed off ‘legally’. In Canada, there have been documented cases of depressed people being offered assisted dying, a bit of gentle coercion.

After all the ‘enlightened’ in this country have form for this. Not so long ago, they started mutating children in the name of progressive gender identity.

By paedophiles, do you mean convicted child abusers?

Plenty of paedophiles obey the law and have done nothing to hurt anybody. Why should we be any keener to murder them than you?

Just confused what the actual point behind it is. Is it to make society safer by having fewer child abusers around? Or is it to relieve people of the burden of having to live their whole life without sexual fulfilment?

I know! I switched off at that point!

also….i work in a prison. Bring out those options and most of us would likely leave the job…..
and there’s not many of us left as it is!

not to mention the knock on effect to other prisoners mental health.

Discuss…

Hate it when people say this, as though they've given their 'audience' food for thought with their intelligent outpouring 🥱

Discuss? Who are you, the great teacher of morals?

You've got a point OP. The 'assisted dying' bill is a state death penalty for innocents - the disabled, the unwanted, the ill and therefore expensive and the elderly with grabby relatives. Every safeguard has been stripped away. How posters can defend that but not the killing of the worst criminals is between them and their conscience I suppose, ethical political frameworks have long been pushed aside by jumping on the bandwagon of whatever the so-called left classes as a trendy issue.

Sadly there are many people who are stuggling with their lives and their mental health and many do choose to end their own life. We want to help them get better, not make it easier for them with a state sponsored euthanasia procedure.

It won’t happen in the UK, although I do think that foreign nations such as the convicted rapist Chinese student, should be returned to their own countries to face justice.