Naked bike ride

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Was in London yesterday: naked bike ride. Fine.. not my thing (or many other women). They finished the ride/protest/whatvever and then conjugated near B palace.. and just seemed to be happy wafting their micro penis’s about for kicks and giggles/

A lot of horrid middle aged naked men kicking about just felt unnecessary.

and 🤮

I am defending anyone's right to their LEGAL right to be naked.

So that's not 96%

Are you a naturist?

91% of all sex offences.

But as @CautiousLurker01 posted, it's actually 98% of sexual assaults and rapes:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/natureofsexualassaultbyrapeorpenetrationenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2020

So, you are right that it's not 96%, it's more than 96%.

Just being naked on a bike is not overt sexual gratification.

How are you going to know that someone ‘gets a sexual thrill from being naked around non-participating people’ ? Can you read minds ?

I think my point is obvious

The argument penises should be covered because they "might" be used to cause harm is a silly one because lots of things which could cause harm are perfectly allowed to be seem

Anyone has the right to be naked in public, not just men.

Why aren't you also protesting seeing naked fannies?

Also if they'd have had BIGGER knobs it would have been ok?

That's precisely the point I'm making.

The law should be changed to make it an offence per se to be naked in public, because it's impossible to tell.

No

I am just someone who thinks people's legal rights to live as they wish is something we need to defend

And someone who thinks that "this is wrong because it personally offends me" is a slippery slope for laws. Because the same argument can be made for religious expression, being openly gay, dressing flamboyantly/non conforming etc

"Anyone has the right to be naked in public, not just men"

It's not a 'right', it's just not illegal under certain circumstances. But it should be illegal under all circumstances.

I've seen this 'right to be naked' a few times now. You know it isn't a right, right?

So there's lots of different figures depending how exactly you chose to look at it...

https://www.safealliance.org/blog/silent-struggle-why-men-are-less-likely-report/

It's well documented men don't report assault because of the ideas of "masculinty"

Oh and 1 in 18 men have been raped, which isn't an insignificant number, but they aren't crying out for men to cover up because just seeing a penis is assault....

It is a right otherwise it would be illegal.

You know the vast, vast majority of men a raped by other men though, right?

There's also no right not to see nudity but people are saying there is...

Naturists do have a right to live as they want within the law, as does anyone

The law should not be more controlling, else it opens up all sorts more

"Showing a bit of butt cheek is close enough to nudity"
"You're showing too much clevage and it's considered nudity"
"Well I'm offended to see the outline of a nipple through clothing so women need to wear more"

All of them actually since the definition of rape is non consensual penetration with a penis.

So you’re only bothered because no one had a schlong?

But why should it be illegal under all circumstances ?

Hence my last point

And my point earlier than Rape can ONLY be a male crime because it involves a penis

But we don't have accurate numbers of female abusers because of the well known and considered (MN is very guilty of this) thought that women simply cannot do that...

And can you see your cognitive dissonance when you say that men underreported their sexual assaults because of shame in one breath and then comfort yourself that men who have been sexually assaulted don't complain about naked bicyclists in the next?

That's not cognitive dissonance

Men could complain about it from a different angle, regardless of what their real reason is

But then most of them are also apparently men...

Because a naked penis will launch itself at a woman and abuse her apparently

I'll just take that as a no then and leave you to your circular logic.

1 in 18 men have been raped by other men.

How do you know male victims of rape also don't want to see naked penises in the streets?

My logic makes perfect sense

A naked man on a bike is no more a threat than a clothed one on a bike