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Called a "c*nt" in front of his kid over a P&C spot...

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SorryIParkedWrong · 15/06/2025 07:30

Hi all,
Need a sanity check on an interaction I had yesterday that's still bothering me.
I used a Parent & Child spot yesterday at a quiet retail park. I know, technically wrong, but I was doing a massive haul for a house move and needed the boot space, and loads of other P&C spots were free so I wasn't leaving anyone without.
The issue happened when I got back to my car after shopping. I was in the driver's seat, engine on, and was just about to reverse out and leave.
A car pulled into the P&C space next to me. A woman got out with her young child and. She came right up to my window, which was cracked open, and said in a really aggressive tone, "You shouldn't be parked there."
Not wanting any drama or to explain my point to an emotionally enraged individual, I just said, "Ok," and put the car fully in reverse to leave. That's when she and the dad who appeared completely kicked off. Standing right by my car door, she launched into an absolute tirade.
She was shouting all sorts - "cunt," "fucking little shit," "look at your shit car," "fucking shit driving." All while her own young child stood there watching the whole thing.
I briefly stopped reversing, said through the window "I hope you have a lovely rest of your day," and then started to move again. She and her husband just kept going with the abuse, so I stopped the car again because I was just in disbelief. I looked at her and started laughing at the sheer absurdity and the level of her rage.
I know I shouldn't have used the spot. But AIBU to think her reaction was completely unhinged? Does my minor error give someone the right to hurl that level of personal, nasty abuse at a stranger, especially in front of their own child?
It honestly felt like she was just projecting all her life's problems onto me over a parking space. What do you think?

OP posts:
ToadRage · 15/06/2025 09:45

Tbh I don't see why we have P&C spaces, we never had them when I was kid and parents managed just fine. Now parking in a disabled space without a blue badge pisses me right off and I see it far too often, especially at the hospital and when my husband used to pick me up after work,I would wait right in front of the disabled spaces because that's where he would park with my badge to help me in and out of the car. My husband claims he has used P&C before when called out his response was 'it doesn't say i have to have them with me.' and he also told me his Dad used one when he was young adult and said 'I am a parent and this is my son it does not specify an age'.

Bethany83 · 15/06/2025 09:47

Also, having caused the situation in the first place, I do wonder how they would have reacted had you the guts to say "you are right, I'm really sorry" instead of telling them to have a good day and laughing at them. I think your reaction really do highlight how entitled you can be. Hopefully this is a lesson learnt for you.

Lonelydave · 15/06/2025 09:47

yakkity · 15/06/2025 09:40

At least we agree that they aren’t ONLY for P&C but also acceptable for some one with a broken leg in a wheelchair or the very old and unstable.

I suggest ‘shopping for loads of stuff’ could involve 8 foot long ladders, flat packs and sacks of gravel (hypothetically) that are extremely unwieldy and dangerous to wheel across a car park.

my point is we shouldn’t be rigid in our acceptance of rules. Much like you feel the temporarily disabled are deserving to use a parent and child space even though they are not a parent with a child, I am suggesting there are other circumstances where someone can morally use the space.

whether the OP fits this isn’t something I could know as I wasn’t there. Nor do I know what she was dealing with or the car park.

a society that forgets the intention behind rules and sticks rigidly to the letter of the law is a society without compassion or humanity. This is the situation in some countries that are very rigid, transactional and litigious.

they have lost their sense of community

They should all get jobs with the local council, blooming jobsworths!!!!!!!

Nearly everyone commenting has missed the actual illegal part, the op was harassed and verbally assaulted, now I know most mns find it hard to get butter to melt in their mouths, but when are people going to say no to anti social behaviour, verbal intimidation and actual law breaking, rather than an inconvenience? Or is that too much to ask for?

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 15/06/2025 09:48

Im heavily pregnant with 2 under 5's already. P&C spaces dont have extra boot space. They have extra space at the sides because you have to get a child out a car seat and in order to do so sometimes you have to open passenger door fully. Certainly to get a Doona out you need to open it fully. Not 2 or 3 fucking inches like some people only give you. Ive had to actually leave my newborn baby NEXT to my car in order to move the car to open the door to get back in because a cunt has parked to close to me as I couldnt get in a p&c space.
So yes id have thought you a cunt, but id have also given you the benefit of the doubt and moved on with my day.
That level of carrying on in front of a child is horrendous, hopefully a one off. Who knows what kind of day they'd had and what issues they may have been facing.

Nowayyousure · 15/06/2025 09:48

heroinechic · 15/06/2025 09:00

@cryptide I think they’re close to the entrance to reduce the amount of time you have to spend manoeuvring through a car park with children.

The awful thing about this is that they are comfortable acting like that in front of their child.

Child aside, I wonder if I can rent this couple to defend the spaces at my local Morrisons where the P&C spaces seem to be always taken up by work vans!

I don't think they tackle men, especially work men.

OlivePeer · 15/06/2025 09:48

Bethany83 · 15/06/2025 09:42

It is a shame they used such vulgar language in front of their child.
However, not only did you do the wrong thing because you felt entitled, you then passively aggressively antagonised them by saying have a nice day. Obviously this is going to enhance their rage. You then went a step further by laughing in their face as they expressed their upset and anger. They had a right to feel upset and angry and you had caused that situation and then when they react, you just laugh in their face. Wow quite frankly!

"A right to feel upset and angry" that a stranger had used a parking space when there were loads of free ones? This seems so ridiculously extreme.

Coconutter24 · 15/06/2025 09:48

LlynTegid · 15/06/2025 09:02

If you have any details such as car reg, report to the police. Both people unfit to drive given their behaviour.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Waste police time because someone got mad at someone in a parent and child spot? They didn’t threaten or touch op so what should she say…. Someone shouted at me

LakieLady · 15/06/2025 09:49

Megifer · 15/06/2025 07:46

I use them all the time when I've got mum with me whos having an off day and a bit wobbly on her feet, and i never get people gobbing off at me ☹️

Edited

I used them for a while after having surgery on my knee, which meant I had to open my door as wide as it would go to get in and out of the car. It wasn't doable in a normal space.

No-one ever challenged me on it.

Gloriia · 15/06/2025 09:50

Coconutter24 · 15/06/2025 09:48

Waste police time because someone got mad at someone in a parent and child spot? They didn’t threaten or touch op so what should she say…. Someone shouted at me

You can't harass people and act aggressively. A pcso might just knock on their door and have a word. Let's face it they do it for far less nowadays.

JockTamsonsBairns · 15/06/2025 09:50

dynamiccactus · 15/06/2025 09:09

It's never ok to use that word - it's very offensive (and no, it's not a term of endearment in Scotland, nobody I know who's Scottish has ever said Cactus, love, you're such a c*nt).

As for parking in P&C spaces who cares? They're not for blue badge holders and in my view people should pay if they need a bigger space because they drive a massive SUV or have a million kids - if your child has a disability you have a blue badge anyway. I somehow think it would concentrate a few minds, given people hate paying for parking, despite paying for very expensive cars.

It's definitely a term of endearment where I come from in Scotland.

Bethany83 · 15/06/2025 09:52

OlivePeer · 15/06/2025 09:48

"A right to feel upset and angry" that a stranger had used a parking space when there were loads of free ones? This seems so ridiculously extreme.

I would say they were also upset and angry after the O.P told them to have a good day! Thats incredibly goading behaviour. She could have just ignored and driven off or even said stop abusing me etc but saying have a good day is very goading...

luckylavender · 15/06/2025 09:52

You were completely entitled

Pollntyme · 15/06/2025 09:55

Bethany83 · 15/06/2025 09:52

I would say they were also upset and angry after the O.P told them to have a good day! Thats incredibly goading behaviour. She could have just ignored and driven off or even said stop abusing me etc but saying have a good day is very goading...

She was shouting all sorts - "cunt," "fucking little shit," "look at your shit car," "fucking shit driving." All while her own young child stood there watching the whole thing

They said some very rude things to her, they’re lucky all she said in retaliation was a breezy ‘have a good day’.

Obviously it was designed to annoy them, but I guess you won’t be feeling that charitable to people once they’ve said all that and in front of their child too.

Eta: Do you think saying “stop abusing me” would have helped the situation either? I don’t see that it would. This couple are out of control and OP knew she couldn’t stop them, instead she gave them a subtle dig back which is fair enough since two people were being aggressive and abusive to a woman on her own which is appalling.

Biskieboo · 15/06/2025 09:56

A case of 'When Idiots Collide'.

AndImBrit · 15/06/2025 09:57

Meh. Depends where you were. If it was IKEA you’re totally justified, as my local IKEA has almost an equal number of P&C and normal spaces, and if you don’t want to park in one of the hundreds of P&C spaces (that I’ve never seen full, even when I worked there most days for 2 years), you have to park on a different floor of the car park, and I’m just not good/safe enough to steer a loaded, heavy trolley through a car park, in a lift and then through another car park to get to my car.

Megifer · 15/06/2025 10:00

Bethany83 · 15/06/2025 09:52

I would say they were also upset and angry after the O.P told them to have a good day! Thats incredibly goading behaviour. She could have just ignored and driven off or even said stop abusing me etc but saying have a good day is very goading...

Did you read the op? They gave her all that (goading) shit before she told them to have a lovely day.

Blueblell · 15/06/2025 10:05

There were plenty free and they got a space themselves. They should not have approached you and what saddos

EmeraldShamrock000 · 15/06/2025 10:07

I wouldn't have antagonised her further. She was irrational and angry, however I think it would be better to ignore her.

ExercicenformedeZ · 15/06/2025 10:08

I can't believe some of these responses. Ok, you were wrong to use the P&C space. But they were utterly and completely out of order, good lord. They sound deranged. Their poor child, having to witness that.

Weekmindedfool · 15/06/2025 10:12

SENSummer · 15/06/2025 09:08

It is wrong, on the basis that you do not own that land and that the people who do have VERY clearly sign posted and marked that it is only for use by certain people. Parking in P&C without a valid reason is technically (if you want to get very legally specific) trespassing. There’s a reason you’ll get ticketed and fined if caught.

Obviously it’s quite a small infraction in the grand scheme of morally grey things to do but it’s in the same category as cutting in ahead of people in queues and eating unpackaged fruit as you walk around the supermarket because it ‘just a sample’.
individually these behaviours are irksome but don’t seem like a ‘huge big deal’ but ultimately there all pieces of a jigsaw that result in a shitty entitled overall person who thinks they’re better than following societal etiquette.

It is wrong, on the basis that you do not own that land and that the people who do have VERY clearly sign posted and marked that it is only for use by certain people. Parking in P&C without a valid reason is technically (if you want to get very legally specific) trespassing. There’s a reason you’ll get ticketed and fined if caught.

Everything you said there is wrong.

Weekmindedfool · 15/06/2025 10:14

Floursacktabletop · 15/06/2025 09:22

I'm not pregnant and this happened to me too

Happens to us all pregnant or not

cryinglaughing · 15/06/2025 10:15

YANBU parking in the P&C spot, they are not legally enforceable.

YABU in your passive aggressive response. It's not big and it's not clever. You are lucky you didn't escalate the situation further.

Zanatdy · 15/06/2025 10:16

Ask staff for assistance if needed instead of parking in spots reserved for those more in need.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 15/06/2025 10:17

If I can manage that I'm sure you can manage to drag your trolley full of tat from B&M or whatever a bit further across the car park too.

Awww, always lovely to see the full on MN snobbery is still thriving.
Sadly we cannot all afford to shop at Selfridges so of us are forced to slum it in the likes of B&M or whatever 🙄.

So not to fully miss the point of the thread, you both behaved like dicks OP, so I would say that it's honours even.

Sherararara · 15/06/2025 10:18

Ilikeadrink14 · 15/06/2025 09:31

How rude to criticise the way someone speaks! Mind your own business and stop patronising people!

There’s literally a board on MN dedicated to criticising the way people speak….