Could someone kindly explain the LA situation to me please

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Hello, I'm sorry I'm probably being very unreasonable but I've taken a little self-prescribed break from the news lately for MH reasons and I feel I may have missed some context perhaps?

Could someone much cleverer than me explain the situation in LA right now and what has led up to it please? And the different sides/views?

I'd like to try to understand.

Please be kind to me!

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I wish I could but I haven't understood either.

BBC has some fairly straightforward summaries of events: www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-c4a06674-a5de-4ec4-92f8-032d7b8194f4

I've been trying to figure this out myself

It's so difficult from another country

And with no reliable sources of news

while I have spent AGES trying to figure out if the people being removed are there illegally, I have realised just how loaded the language is in every news report.

I realise that 99% of media outlets hate Donald Trump but it should not be so hard to get basic news!

I have come to the conclusion that it's illegal immigrants being removed. Also that as with many protests, this one has been hijacked by troublemakers who just want to make trouble anywhere. They don't really care about the cause.

It's doubly weird for me because I kind of hid away from news for a long time and I was ill for awhile so I am kind of out of date with some of the corrections that may have occurred in the last few years. Like which organisations have been discredited, etc.

Sorry - I realise none of this may be helpful.

So here's my summary so far. I'm happy to be corrected but I think it's important that people who have TDS declare that with their explanations!

• There have been protest about immigration officials and how they go about removing illegal immigrants.

• The mayor and the governor of California said they had it under control. But they would not allow the police to support immigration officials. So the president decided to send in federal forces.

I think that's it. I spent some time working in America. Nothing about these immigration raids seems new to me. I think the numbers removed under Biden were pretty high as well, but I don't remember any protests. They may well have been protest that I didn't know about - I haven't been in America for nearly 8 years

Normally, I think I miss it, but I'm beginning to think it must've changed a lot since I was last there.

IMO the orange one doesn’t like LA as it’s a democrat state. He hates the governor too.

The immigration police (ICE) did some raids to arrest & deport alleged immigrants. There was a bit of trouble. This wasn’t helped by rumours & what seemed to be a performative feel to the raids (Dr Phil, an ardent Trump supporter off the telly was allowed access and was filming it apparently too).

Trump is testing the water for his ‘insurrection’ claims so he can impose a quasi dictatorship, thus rendering blue states or anyone who disagrees with him defunct.

I think this is just the start of it tbh.
Also noteworthy is - if a state of emergency is called then I think no one can vote- this might be useful for him in the mid-term elections (for starters).

Trump needed an excuse to play the law and order card and a bunch of idiots in LA gave him exactly what he wanted.

Thank you all so much! 🙏🏻

@Sampler I thought the midterms were due in November 2026.

From what I recall California is a sanctuary state, so safe for people from other countries (legal/illegal). States pass their own laws and the federal government usually leaves them to it. But Trump called the national guard out in CA and that is usually agreed between the governor and president if it's needed.
The protests started as march against ICE picking up people for deportation, The feds made it worse.
They seem to be not only going after illegal aliens now, it's also people with visas and green cards.

ICE agents have been raiding businesses and homes without showing any ID and disappearing people in the middle of the night, people have been arrested by ICE while coming out of their immigration hearing. It's not only illegal immigrants that are being taken, due process is not being performed here and everyone is considered guilty until they prove their innocence, which isn't made easy.

This doesn’t explain the issue though does it?

My worry is it’s a sign of things to come. There have been immigration raids, partly performative in the context of images of the El Salvador prison and highly charged language. Think about the electioneering where Trump said immigrants weee eating pet dogs and cats
protestors come. LAPD are acting but it is a blue state with a governor who may run in 2028. Trump wants to slap down the governor and the state and is flexing authoritarianism with sending in the natural guard and now Marines. Not sure how it ends, hopefully not with Marines shooting protestors - Trump calling it insurrection as that gives legal rights to do so. Expect further in the blue states West and East. It’s grim

Trump's masked ICE agents started harassing and arresting people, such as mothers going about their business. The community stood against it and Trump escalated by sending in the National Guard

Noght time raids and questions over legal process were issues under Obama too. There might have been protests then but maybe less reported.

My impression is that US immigration dept is always like this.

www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/speed-over-fairness-deportation-under-obama

If you think about states as being more like individual countries with their own laws - it can help understand why Trump overriding their governance is so out of the ordinary to the point of being a message of ‘I am in charge here’. It was an authoritarian move not a presidential move.

Because our system is different a president is not comparable to our Prime Minister - although we often think they are the same as world leaders.

It appears to me that Trump has said there is trouble in LA and the orchestrated it so there was trouble.

The governor of LA is right to call out Trump for acting illegally.

It is another sign of Dictator Trump.

And now the marines.

Last time he was president he wanted to shoot the protesters after George Floyd’s murder.

Has he got away with overriding birth right citizenship? I lost track of that one?

he’s trying to disappear people including visa and green card holders, I’d bloody protest too!

I think Trump sent in his troops to make more fuss to cover up for his bust up with Elon Musk. On “Americast” today they called it “Elon-gate” which made me chuckle.