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To ask how many National Insurance credits you have?

123 replies

CatteryCatz · 05/06/2025 16:59

I’ve just turned 29 and I have 7 National Insurance credits (full years).

I thought it seemed quite bad, but I worked part time at uni, but didn’t meet the threshold for credits for those years. All of my years are full since then.

It’s a shame that National Insurance credits aren’t given when at uni/college.

OP posts:
rainbowunicorn · 05/06/2025 19:56

TeenLifeMum · 05/06/2025 19:55

You need 35 years not 30 I’m afraid.

Not necessarily as the poster you are replying to was paying NI before 2016 they may need less or more than 35 years.

MsDDxx · 05/06/2025 19:57

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 05/06/2025 17:06

Why would they be? You weren't contributing. If credits were issued then what would be the point of a contribution based system.
I may be a bit bear headed about this because I have 45 years and another seven to go. So 52 by the time I get my pension.

You won’t though, at least not the state one. You have to be nearly dead to reach state retirement age 😂

Didntask · 05/06/2025 19:58

BrightLightTonight · 05/06/2025 19:42

No - I have 49 years of NI credits and 18 months before I reach government retirement age. What don’t you understand about that?

Ah, sorry, I thought the 49 years was your age 😳😅

TeenLifeMum · 05/06/2025 19:58

rainbowunicorn · 05/06/2025 19:56

Not necessarily as the poster you are replying to was paying NI before 2016 they may need less or more than 35 years.

I started paying in 1998 and it says I need 35 years so I don’t understand where the 30 years number is coming from.

Didntask · 05/06/2025 19:58

rainbowunicorn · 05/06/2025 19:56

Not necessarily as the poster you are replying to was paying NI before 2016 they may need less or more than 35 years.

I've been paying NI since 1991!

rainbowunicorn · 05/06/2025 19:58

saveforthat · 05/06/2025 19:56

I work in pensions and what @rainbowunicorn is saying is correct. There was a quite complicated calculation done when the New State Pension was introduced. If you contracted out of SERPS you are likely to need more than 35 years. I hate trying to explain this to my clients as for some reason everyone thinks it's universally 35 years is required.

Thank you. Trying to get people to understand this is a nightmare. They refuse to believe what you are saying.

rainbowunicorn · 05/06/2025 20:00

TeenLifeMum · 05/06/2025 19:58

I started paying in 1998 and it says I need 35 years so I don’t understand where the 30 years number is coming from.

Your personal record is just that personal to you. It just means that when your calculation was done in 2016 your record showed that you would need 35 years. Someone else may need 30, someone else again may have needed 40 or more. It would depend if you were ever contracted out, how long for etc.

rainbowunicorn · 05/06/2025 20:01

Didntask · 05/06/2025 19:58

I've been paying NI since 1991!

I've been paying since 1988, not sure what your point is?

BingoBling · 05/06/2025 20:02

I'm mid 50s and have had full ni credits for a few years now.
Surprisingly I got some years from aged 16 to 20 when I was just doing Saturday work and some summer work. Then I also got some when I was a SAHM, through Child benefit I assume.

buffyandspikeandfaith · 05/06/2025 20:03

25 full years, I’m 41

distinctpossibility · 05/06/2025 20:03

jackstini · 05/06/2025 17:05

If you pay NI on part time work whilst you are at Uni/College, then you would get credits, but the threshold was pretty high back then. Now the threshold is lower, more people will pay and get credits

You also get credits for years you claim child benefit - not sure if that applies to you?

You need to get 28 more years credits I think to have the full amount, so could maybe still retire a bit early..?!

I'm an old bird in my 50s so have full credits
DH looked after the kids more and retired early, so he is about 5 years off the full amount. We did check and pay the top ups where possible

You haven't said that you're grandparents but just in case... If your DH helps any of your kids out with childcare so they can work, see if he can get specified adult credits, which is where the "free" credit from claiming Child Benefit for a kid under 12 can be given to a family member rather than lost by the parent paying NI. It's super simple,there's no particular amount he'd have to look after the grandkids (once a week after school, or during school hols is enough) www.gov.uk/guidance/apply-for-specified-adult-childcare-credits Best of all they only make the award if the parent definitely has achieved the full year's NI payment through employment so there's no risk (apart from the cost of a stamp to send the form off!)

DisapprovingSpaniel · 05/06/2025 20:04

TeenLifeMum · 05/06/2025 19:55

You need 35 years not 30 I’m afraid.

I am literally quoting from the government's own forecast of my state pension which lists 29 full years (plus 2 incomplete years) and tells me I need 1 more year for the full pension...

To ask how many National Insurance credits you have?
TeenLifeMum · 05/06/2025 20:04

rainbowunicorn · 05/06/2025 20:00

Your personal record is just that personal to you. It just means that when your calculation was done in 2016 your record showed that you would need 35 years. Someone else may need 30, someone else again may have needed 40 or more. It would depend if you were ever contracted out, how long for etc.

I have full years from age 16 so I don’t understand how someone else would get to technically work less years (all things pension related baffle me but I’m getting older and trying to understand so appreciate the explanations). I’ll easily get to 35 years by the time I’m 51 (avoiding all serious illness obviously) so it’s not a massive issue, I just don’t understand.

Dangermoo · 05/06/2025 20:09

I'm 54 and have some gaps from last 5 years. I'm not going to bother topping it up; I can live with the lower state pension. I've got two private pensions I'm living off. Who knows what's going to happen with the pension by the time your turn comes to claim it?

LF11 · 05/06/2025 20:11

rainbowunicorn · 05/06/2025 19:40

What's not correct about what i said? Coincidentally YOU need 35 years. The guaranteed 35 years and you get a full state pension only applies to people with no NI record before 2016.

??!

DisapprovingSpaniel · 05/06/2025 20:12

Don't make @rainbowunicorn explain it all again. They've already been patient enough to explain over and over on this thread 😂

youve987456 · 05/06/2025 20:13

Don't worry about it, when you are old the state pension will probably be payable at 85 and means tested, so you won't get much.

BrieHugger · 05/06/2025 20:14

herbalteabag · 05/06/2025 18:30

I have 33 years and have years when I didn't work at all. I'm 52 now. Lots of automatic credits for child benefit. It's not anything to think about now, plenty of time.

Same as me, two more years to contribute. I was surprised (but pleased!) to have got the full whack during all the years I was a SAHM, wasn’t expecting that to be the case.

mantaraya · 05/06/2025 20:16

I'm ten years older than you and I'd be absolutely amazed if I got any kind of meaningful state pension in future. Ageing population, stagnating economy, massive government debt - I don't see how we'd be able afford it unless it's for the very poorest.

jackstini · 05/06/2025 20:18

distinctpossibility · 05/06/2025 20:03

You haven't said that you're grandparents but just in case... If your DH helps any of your kids out with childcare so they can work, see if he can get specified adult credits, which is where the "free" credit from claiming Child Benefit for a kid under 12 can be given to a family member rather than lost by the parent paying NI. It's super simple,there's no particular amount he'd have to look after the grandkids (once a week after school, or during school hols is enough) www.gov.uk/guidance/apply-for-specified-adult-childcare-credits Best of all they only make the award if the parent definitely has achieved the full year's NI payment through employment so there's no risk (apart from the cost of a stamp to send the form off!)

We are not yet - but might be in the next decade or 2 so worth knowing - thank you!

UnderandOverwhelmed · 05/06/2025 20:22

I'm 43 and only need 5 more years. I think the 2016 changes gave me extra credits because of second state pension contributions before then. Obviously I can't claim it for 25 years, so yay!

rainbowunicorn · 05/06/2025 20:25

TeenLifeMum · 05/06/2025 20:04

I have full years from age 16 so I don’t understand how someone else would get to technically work less years (all things pension related baffle me but I’m getting older and trying to understand so appreciate the explanations). I’ll easily get to 35 years by the time I’m 51 (avoiding all serious illness obviously) so it’s not a massive issue, I just don’t understand.

Because some people were contracted out of the second state pension. They paid lower NI during this time so the number of years needed would be more than someone who did not contract out. Some people were contracted out for longer than others so that would also impact the number er of years they needed.
You don't even need to work to get years credited as credits are given for claiming child benefit, ESA and many years other benefits.

TeenLifeMum · 05/06/2025 20:32

rainbowunicorn · 05/06/2025 20:25

Because some people were contracted out of the second state pension. They paid lower NI during this time so the number of years needed would be more than someone who did not contract out. Some people were contracted out for longer than others so that would also impact the number er of years they needed.
You don't even need to work to get years credited as credits are given for claiming child benefit, ESA and many years other benefits.

Sorry to be dumb but what’s “contracted out” mean?

rainbowunicorn · 05/06/2025 20:36

TeenLifeMum · 05/06/2025 20:32

Sorry to be dumb but what’s “contracted out” mean?

Contracted out of the Additional state pension. This was an option to pay less NI and the money was usually diverted to a workplace or private pension. If you go on to your government t gateway account it will say whether you were ever contracted out. Most people were at some point if they were working before the changes to state pension came in 2016.

Money saving expert is great for information on pensions.

TeenLifeMum · 05/06/2025 20:39

rainbowunicorn · 05/06/2025 20:36

Contracted out of the Additional state pension. This was an option to pay less NI and the money was usually diverted to a workplace or private pension. If you go on to your government t gateway account it will say whether you were ever contracted out. Most people were at some point if they were working before the changes to state pension came in 2016.

Money saving expert is great for information on pensions.

Mine just says full year for each so I guess I wasn’t 🤷🏻‍♀️

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