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My mum has no interest in her grandkids

34 replies

FrineDrine · 03/06/2025 20:30

So, my mum is a lovely woman if a little unusual/eccentric. She’s in her mid-60s now. She had my brother and I when she was 23/25 and devoted herself to us, she was a fantastic mum truly. She is an English teacher and has always been very enthusiastic about her work too.

My dad passed 20 years ago when I was 20 and my brother 18. It was right before my brother was due to go to uni and my mum insists he still went and not worry about her. From here is when my mum started to change. She had been very religious up until this point but changed and said “there may well be a god but if he exists he isn’t a good one and I’m yet to see any signs that he does” she starting saying she believed after death there was nothing and that life has no great meaning, we just have to make our own meaning and get on with it. She was still loving but definitely became a lot more laissez faire. My dad’s passing had left insurance which paid off the house so she stopped trying to climb the career ladder at work. Then gradually as we got older became increasingly uninterested in our life. I remember calling her and saying I’d got a job I’d really wanted and she said “get the job, don’t get the job what does it matter we all end up in the ground anyway”. She insisted she wasn’t depressed and was actually rather happy, she said she felt free now she wasn’t being governed my so many rules and all she would obey was the law and her own moral code.
My brother and I left her to it, she seemed happy and was forever off on holiday to here, there and everywhere. 3 years ago she got a lodger as she said the house was too big on her own and she needed company, also year later the lodgers girlfriend moved in and my mum is rather fond of them. It does mean we never go and visit her now as this couple are always there but she does visit us or we go out together.

Neither my brother or I had children until our late 30s, I’m now 40 with an almost 2 year old and expecting baby 2 and my brother is 38 with a 2 year old. She’s been fairly loosely interested so far. She argues they are babies they are the none the wiser as to if she does or doesn’t visit often, and even said to my brother “I don’t get any great joy out of being around babies”.
I have just kept telling myself she will be better once my son is a bit older and babies and toddlers aren’t everyone’s cup of tea. I remind myself what a great mum she was and what a great teacher she is and believe that can’t all just disappear.

I messaged her today to let her know we are having a little party for my son the day after his birthday but as it’s school holidays she is welcome to come over before then and spend the whole weekend with us. She replied “no can do, lodger is graduating on his birthday I said I would go”. When I asked what about the party the next day she said “I’m going on holiday on the Monday, no point coming all the way to you for one night” (London to Southampton hardly a great distance).

This has left me feeling really sad, I called her and said this and she said it won’t make any difference he’s only turning 2, he won’t remember. I said I would remember and we’d look back at the pictures for the rest of his life knowing she chose her lodger and convenience over being present in my son’s life. She said “ah well be upset if you must, no real difference to me at the end of the day and I shall see you the week before and the week after I get back”.

AIBU to feel really hurt by her? I know she is very much a “it is what it is” person but I can’t deal with her not really caring about my son, and it breaks my heart to see how much she has changed since my childhood. How should I handle this?

OP posts:
637382gdjdb · 03/06/2025 20:34

I'm sorry OP, that must be really hurtful.

I don't think there is anything you can do except make peace with it and stop expecting better from her.

Pleaseshutthefuckup · 03/06/2025 20:37

I don't call this depression. It sounds quite cruel tbh. I understand that GPs can find it too much and don't want to be a free babysitter, they want freedom and a life. There is however cruelty and a complete absence of empathy here.

I don't know if this is her true self coming through or what's going on. But what can you realistically do other than try detach from her and make more of connections with your sibling and his child?

Kittyfur · 03/06/2025 20:39

Your mum has found a new philosophy in life.
nothing matters too much in the grand scheme of things.

none of us are getting out of here alive!

she finds contentment in this:
please try not to take it personally.

live your life as you wish.

Goonie1 · 03/06/2025 20:39

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. Im in a situation where my children’s grandparents on their dad’s side only see them once or twice a year (they only live in 20 minutes away), to add that’s their choice not mine. It makes me feel extremely sad for the children as they have such a close and loving relationship with my parents. But, after a few years of being bothered by it, I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s their loss. You can’t force someone to be in yours or your children’s life and to be honest, those that opt not to or distance themselves are probably not going to enhance your life anyway. I’m much happier about the situation having made peace with that.

dottiedodah · 03/06/2025 21:27

Do you think she may be a little envious maybe. You say she was an amazing mum .she may have felt alone when Dad died,maybe finds it hard to see you happy and partnered up.while she is getting on and alone. Also seems a little depressed. Maybe she thinks her work is done now. Seems like she's lost some of her zest for life.are your DH family involved, maybe that would be best to be close to them. Some DGP just switch off.i am desperate to be a Nan! Have a way to go as DS only getting married this year .we are all different. Try to enjoy your little family and your nephew/DB

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Kellywiththelegs · 03/06/2025 21:42

Sounds like she’s had a personality transplant and not in a good way, honestly she won’t change back into the mum you used to know, this is her now, leave her to it and I don’t mean cutting her out your life but don’t be so keen to involve her in your life, she’s clearly not interested so reflect back to her how she treats you, be as nonchalant as she is and eventually you won’t care as much as you do now, sad as it is, she chose this not you, let her get on with it.

Everything0Everywhere · 03/06/2025 21:52

This is really sad. Im sorry to hear your mum is like that. I suggest that you aim to build a relationship between your children & mum by going round to your mum's house. I understand you don't want to because of the lodgers but maybe a quick pop-in (15mins) twice a week will slowly build a relationship. After a bit your mum may become more willing to see the children in other situations.

On another note, what are the lodgers like? Your mum seems close to them. Are they people that you see yourself being able to build a relationship with? Im wondering two things (1) if they are interested in your child, then maybe it will encourage your mum to be so and (2) they might be good babysitters in the future?!

Anon501178 · 03/06/2025 22:06

This is really sad OP, YADNBU!
It sounds like she did have depression after your dad died but is struggling to admit that and get help.
I do wonder, does seeing the children feel painful because she isn't getting to share it with your dad?
Having said that, her cruel comments are unacceptable and must feel incredibly hurtful.
I am close to my mum and she is a wonderful GP, however we have had issues with DH's parents always felt like an inconvenience helping with their grandchildren (we don't see them now) and only took a fleeting interest but always seemed like an effort (they weren't great parents to DH either tho)
We have realised that you can't sadly change people most of the time, it is a waste of time and effort.
Your children won't have a bond with her anyway if she isn't showing an interest and is very arms length....kids pick up easily on that kind of thing, so as hard as it is, I would leave the ball in her court and pull back.
Do you have a good relationship with your in laws?

halfpastten · 03/06/2025 22:14

She said in the call that she would see you the week before and the week after her holiday. So she does care and does see you a lot. I also have a mother who is uninterested in me and her grandchildren and she hasn't visited us in 15 years, so I'd be ecstatic to have two visits a few weeks apart. Your mother is there, just not exactly when you want.

stayathomer · 03/06/2025 22:18

Op I don’t think this is anything to do with you or your children- your mum has decided to just exist. I don’t really get that you can be hurt by it, I’d get you feeling sad about it but yes as others have said I don’t think there’s much you can do

FancyCatSlave · 03/06/2025 22:19

It sounds like after the death of your father she has disassociated from the people closest to her - you and your sibling and now your children. It’s a defense mechanism.

You can’t change her if she doesn’t want help.

OrangeCrushes · 03/06/2025 22:21

FancyCatSlave · 03/06/2025 22:19

It sounds like after the death of your father she has disassociated from the people closest to her - you and your sibling and now your children. It’s a defense mechanism.

You can’t change her if she doesn’t want help.

I think this is quite perceptive

LateOnTheBandwagon · 03/06/2025 22:23

If she is visiting the week before her holiday and the week after, surely that shows she cares. When my children were that age, their birthday was definitely moveable and (miraculously!) always at the weekend, sometimes two weekends on the run if it was convenient. Get extra cake and blow out extra candles for your pictures - the date isn't important.

Coolasfeck · 03/06/2025 22:25

I agree with PP. she’s not ‘depressed’ in the classic sense but it sounds like your fathers death upset her so much that she’s distancing herself emotionally to protect herself from further heartbreak should anything happen to any of you. She’s fearful and existing.

It’s interesting she was widowed in her 40s and there’s no mention of her ever having another partner. It sounds like she’s closed herself off from love out of fear.

I feel sorry for you but I feel very sorry for her.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 03/06/2025 22:28

Sorry, op, that does sound hurtful. You and your brother lost her husband too 🥺 x

Tallyrand · 03/06/2025 22:33

My father lives a 15 minute walk from my kids but doesn't bother visiting them. If he does ask to visit (the 2 or 3 times a year he feels the urge to), it's always at the most inconvenient times like 8pm on a Thursday night when they are in bed.

It's his loss and it's your mother's loss too.

She sounds like she is following Nihilism or something similar. She's obviously intellectually and emotionally intelligent enough to make that choice for herself.

OneBlossomBee · 03/06/2025 22:38

It is hurtful for her to be so dismissive of her own DGC. It is a party for your DS and it'd be lovely for her to be there. Your mother might have some sort of long-term shock from losing her husband/your dad only in her 40s and she hasn't dealt with it. I think she needs grief counselling to help her out. Losing your religion after such a loss is not unusual and people feel there is no afterlife or god when the loss feels too great. As an atheist I agree witg her on that. The thing that sticks out though is these lodgers. First it was one guy and then his gf moves in and now she is putting his graduation over her own DGC. I'd be visiting to see exactly how these lodgers are and if they are getting TOO at home and not manipulating your mum in any way for hope of some gain in many years to come. Call me suspicious, but I'd be wary of these lodgers.

Pleaseshutthefuckup · 03/06/2025 22:48

OneBlossomBee · 03/06/2025 22:38

It is hurtful for her to be so dismissive of her own DGC. It is a party for your DS and it'd be lovely for her to be there. Your mother might have some sort of long-term shock from losing her husband/your dad only in her 40s and she hasn't dealt with it. I think she needs grief counselling to help her out. Losing your religion after such a loss is not unusual and people feel there is no afterlife or god when the loss feels too great. As an atheist I agree witg her on that. The thing that sticks out though is these lodgers. First it was one guy and then his gf moves in and now she is putting his graduation over her own DGC. I'd be visiting to see exactly how these lodgers are and if they are getting TOO at home and not manipulating your mum in any way for hope of some gain in many years to come. Call me suspicious, but I'd be wary of these lodgers.

My immediate reaction to the lodger and gf situation was suspicion tbh. I wouldn't trust anyone around an elderly vulnerable lady they don't know that well. Moving a gf in just doesn't feel right.

Nevertrustacop · 03/06/2025 22:51

Honestly I don't know what this woman has done wrong. She's absolutely right. None of this does matter so she's just taking her joy as she can. She does see you and the dgc, on a schedule that suits her. But surely she has reached a stage of her life when she can prioritise herself?

Hillsmakeyoustrong · 03/06/2025 22:51

I understand your hurt and I understand your mother's hurt. I also used to have a strong faith that I lost through prolonged trauma which culminated in loss. Essentially, your mother has had two bereavements, your father and her faith and that is a very dark place. So much so you can become a nihilist (or a depressive) to block the past pain and prevent future pain. You can still feel a superficial joy (in things like your lodger's grad party) but the resignation and, imho, the deep seated depression remain at the core.

Form a new normal with her and try to enjoy what is on offer. It's OK to be sad about what's no longer on offer as well.

myfavouritemutant · 03/06/2025 22:58

FancyCatSlave · 03/06/2025 22:19

It sounds like after the death of your father she has disassociated from the people closest to her - you and your sibling and now your children. It’s a defense mechanism.

You can’t change her if she doesn’t want help.

Yes this, plus the loss of her faith which can have a huge impact on people.

I don’t know what you can do though op. I think just accept what it is, and make the most of what you do have with her.

edited to add - hadn’t seen Hillsmakeyoustronger’s post when I wrote this, but they say what I was trying to get at far better!

dayslikethese1 · 03/06/2025 22:58

She is seeing you twice in 2 weeks though? That sounds quite involved to me. I don't think this is that bad, it's just the night in question doesn't work for her.

ilovesooty · 03/06/2025 23:04

Pleaseshutthefuckup · 03/06/2025 22:48

My immediate reaction to the lodger and gf situation was suspicion tbh. I wouldn't trust anyone around an elderly vulnerable lady they don't know that well. Moving a gf in just doesn't feel right.

She's in her mid 60s and she might still be working
She's hardly "elderly and vulnerable".

Tourmalines · 03/06/2025 23:08

Pleaseshutthefuckup · 03/06/2025 22:48

My immediate reaction to the lodger and gf situation was suspicion tbh. I wouldn't trust anyone around an elderly vulnerable lady they don't know that well. Moving a gf in just doesn't feel right.

65 is not elderly .

abracadabra1980 · 03/06/2025 23:12

Kittyfur · 03/06/2025 20:39

Your mum has found a new philosophy in life.
nothing matters too much in the grand scheme of things.

none of us are getting out of here alive!

she finds contentment in this:
please try not to take it personally.

live your life as you wish.

Very wise words here-agree with all of it.

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