Any vets around? Brucellosis canis panic

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I have a gorgeous dog from Romania. Had her 7 years with no issues.

Lost her pet passport years ago. Cannot remember the rescue I got her from. All vaccinations up to date.

Was looking for a kennels to go on holiday. They said she has to have Brucellosis canis blood test as no pet passport.

Phoned my vet and was viewed with suspicion. I was asking for price but asked for it not to be put on her record as it may cause problems.with her insurance.

Gone down a rabbit hole saying blood test gives 50%false positives and she will have to be put to sleep.

You'd be viewed with suspicion by any vet if you ask for something not to be put on the record so you can defraud an insurance company... yeah.

How do you not know what rescue you got the dog from - no emails or forms, no papertrail at all?

She should have been tested on entry to the UK, and again after an assessment period, before being homed to you.

If you have bought a dog sight unseen, unassessed and untested, from someone importing rescue dogs without doing all the proper paperwork/tests... you can consider 'not being able to kennel your dog' the price of that (at the very least!).

It was not to defraud anyone. It was just asking how much the blood test was.

Everything was done properly except I cannot prove it as lost passport.

Stop stretching @WiddlinDiddlin She’s not done anything to defraud the insurance company or planning to she just doesn’t want it on record as it’s only an enquiry.

Also why are you suggesting that in your last paragraph when you don’t even know her situation? So rude and nasty and unhelpful. You shouldn’t have bothered relying.

Thanks @Icanbuymyselfflowers86 some people on here are so hateful.

She came from a registered charity. I had a home check and met her in foster home. When I took her home she had a checkup with vet who saw her pet passport.

This brucellosis canis has just reared its head. I don't care about holidays I am worried my beloved dog will not be seen by a vet as things are changing regarding vets not treating dogs from Romania due to risk of brucellosis canis and the fact that blood tests not very reliable and could result in her being put to sleep.

Then you should have the paperwork or be able to call to get that paperwork.

Brucellosis is a serious issue, it puts those who work with dogs at risk and other dogs too.

It sounded like you were trying to hide an actual test from an insurance company... I don't know why you would think a vet would report that you had enquired about the price, they only have to tell insurance companies about what it is you are claiming for - its up to you to tell the insurance company anything else that is relevant (eg. if your dog bit someone or caused another dog injury).

If you cannot get the paperwork or indeed even if you can, and the kennels you want to use want an up to date test then thats all there is to it - someone really ought to have spelled out to you the risks in taking in dogs from countries where brucellosis is common.

Unfortunately, being a registered charity is no indication that the rescue itself are above board or following best practice. The CC are concerned really with the financials of running the charity and sticking to CC rules, not with animal welfare, all of that is totally outside their remit.

Btw - the testing thing has been an issue for vets in the UK for at least the last four years but it's been common knowledge among those importing dogs from countries where it is an issue for much much longer!

The reason its become an issue for UK vets treating dogs imported from elsewhere NOW is because for sooooo many years, many rescues have not bothered with testing at all.

https://www.bva.co.uk/pet-owners-and-breeders/advice-for-pet-owners/brucella-canis-what-animal-owners-need-to-know/

Good resources from the BVA, ..can also check APHA and BSAVA

How lovely to be perfect and never lost anything.

I moved quickly due to DV and lost my passport too although I suspect may have been taken.

I have had her 7 years and never heard of this before.

My first rescue had the snap test done and was negative. We had her three years with no problems. She then got pancreatitis and died few days later. They did bloods whilst she was sick and she was positive sadly. My second rescue again had the snap test done and I asked the vets to do bloods to confirm results. It’s the snap test that is not reliable.

I assume your dog is spayed? If so, the risk of transmission to either people or dogs is minuscule. There is absolutely no legal requirement to have your dog destroyed if she should test positive. Brucellosis has been around for decades but it’s only in the last 2 years that vets insisting on testing has become an issue.
I have been adopting from abroad for more than 10 years. Literally nobody, including my own vet, and many, many specialist vets ever mentioned it until around 2 years ago, so ignore pp, this isn’t your fault.
Have a look on FB, there are a number of groups that can recommend a sensible vet in your area.
I had mine tested, purely in case they ever needed out of hours treatment away from my usual, well educated vet (who still doesn’t insist on it!).

And the bloods were about £200

Thanks she is spayed. She has been to 6 monthly vet checks for 7 years and an emergency vet hospital admission without any issues with vets.

I am so sorry to hear that.

You really are nasty.

Thanks. Not sure why some vets do not treat dogs when doctors double glove, use PPE including visors if there are risks of disease transmission.

According to this resource there is a retest after testing positive with no symptoms & that its not a legal requirement to euthanise. (I am not suggesting this is the right thing to do)

@WiddlinDiddlin is right... The rescue my pup came from breezed over this in a "don't worry about it it's not a legal requirement" sort of way. I had no idea what it was either. The vets looked a bit taken aback when I said I didn't have a negative test result and said they couldn't do surgery or treat him for any blood injuries without it. I was very worried but the blood test came back quickly and it was negative thankfully.

That is a concern as seems like dogs from abroad may not be treated by some vets without a negative blood test.

Genuine question is brucellosis canis more of a risk to vets than HIV, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C and prion diseases to doctors?

No idea. Maybe they're more worried about animal to human diseases taking hold and mutating. Or maybe it's just that animal healthcare and human health care have different rules.

Possibly but transmission is rare and with adequate PPE...

I wonder how the Eastern European vets work.