To report dishonestly claiming PIP benefit

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she is dishonestly claiming high rate daily and high rate mobility PIP allowance. She exaggerates all her ‘illnesses’ and ‘pain’ to ensure she keeps this allowance. I have heard this from her own mouth that she is NOT entitled to high rate of daily or mobility allowance. She has been reported before and manages to lie her way out of it. constantly lying about what she can and cannot do - which from my experience around her she can achieve it all. She walks her kids to school over 2 miles a day, she does all the house shopping, she jumps around on the kids trampoline, she takes the 2 dogs for a walk every week, she has 2 younger children at home that she can physically cope with on her own.

should I report her?

The OP states that this person has already been reported. They are still in receipt of PIP, so that should tell the OP something.🤔

Exactly. So many have no idea.

thanks

Isn't it nice that we have all this 'Be kind' bollocks which means nothing. At the end of the day people are still shitting on hidden disabilities and invisible conditions. Attitudes are as they always have been. Good to know.

I should also perhaps add onto this that autism and anorexia arnt my only diagnosed conditions. I have a long list of mental health conditions (although they are all based on symptoms associated with autism, so I think they're actually all just that) also have diagnosed physical conditions - however, to me, it's the autism (and associated struggles/severe "anxiety") and eating disorder that incurs most costs in terms of needing care, and specialised items. I didn't even consider the additional cost of clothes, aids etc .. I've always had that, even before PIP. It'd the being able to afford in-person care which is a game changer. I wouldn't be able to attend hospital today if it weren't for that.

I'm trying my best. I am eligible for PIP according to what they score points for , and I am going to use the money to try and live as normal life as possible... As opposed to the absolute trash my life was before, jobless, never leaving thr house ever, never seeking medical care, dentist, or talking to anyone. Never washing. Never getting dressed. PIP helps with the financial side, but it's still a lot of bloody work to try and be normal.

I really don’t know.

We don’t know what funds they have had to plough in to make life easier.

They might have to find their own way to shops to get the best price. I took a liking to a certain brand of mango ice cream costs £6 to order online and get delivered but if I were to go to the shop it’s on special offer of £2-something.

A decade ago I believed those programmes that showed claimants allegedly pulling fast ones ohhhh being outdoors etc but sadly come to realise they were in familiar territory and probably felt quite safe to go out.

A reliance on the state - very scary.

A reliance on the state - very scary.

Yes. They have demonstrated time, and again, that they can change things when it suits.

In this sort of ‘scenario’, why does the PIP recipient even tell people about their benefits?

If it was me, I wouldn’t tell anyone my business.

Saying you wouldn't claim benefits if you didn't need them is being moral. Trying to take down someone who does successfully claim benefits is being jealous.

The fact is, nobody here (including the OP) knows the ins and out of this persons medical history nor their PIP claim. Several professionals are involved in that and I would assume know more than someone who sees this person walk her dogs sometimes.

I think that would be mean and spiteful.
You don't know what evidence she has produced to claim PIP.
She may have exaggerated her ailments but it is still difficult to be awarded PIP.
Her mental health could be part of her claim.
And if she is claiming it fraudulently .....she will come a cropper somewhere.
All I can tell you is I have a very dear friend who has extensive ailments and doesn't claim PIP because of the gruelling process you have to go through.

I have another friend who gets full PIP but is not afflicted on a daily basis with his condition but when he has a flare up he is floored. So he has to claim PIP even in 'well' periods to make up for the days he his crippled and cannot work.

To be fair to OP, she hasn't described herself as a friend or family member of this woman.

Which is why, if she is neither, she should just mind her own affairs. People who are family, or close friends do not even always know the full extent of a person's difficulties, due to whatever medical condition that they have. My friends have no idea about certain aspects of my disability, as it is my business, that I have no desire to share with them.

Thanks all.

I know this person very well. I know her whole life, no hidden disabilities, I know her whole family and her life story. I know her personal life. I know 100% that she is not entitled. She has admitted on many occasions and to numerous people that she is not entitled. She has told others what needs to be said to be able to get ‘paid as much as possible’. She has said that she gets more money than she knows what to do with and spends it on anything and everything to ‘get it gone’ as soon as possible.
she has said she isn’t sure whether to apply for a mobility vehicle because it will ‘show others that she is claiming without any disabilities - and might get reported again’.

I have many many photos and videos of her doing things when she says she can’t even walk - I can’t find a place I can upload these to DWP (can anyone help with this?).

I have many many photos and videos of her doing things when she says she can’t even walk - I can’t find a place I can upload these to DWP (can anyone help with this?).

Exactly my thoughts. If anything, it’s actually gotten worse. It’s now just acceptable to say certain disabilities don’t even exist. What a world.

Oooft. Are you in the neighbourhood watch group as well? Seems like you’ve got a keen eye for detail. At this point, I’d suggest just telling her that you’re going to report her? Seems you’re just as untrustworthy by pretending to be this woman’s pal, whilst secretly recording her every move. Which is probably illegal, in some sense, too. There is also no way whatsoever that this person has been able to say she can’t walk at all, and she’s been awarded PIP on the basis of that sentence. Mobility is seriously scrutinised. Particularly when someone says they’re paraplegic.

I simply don't believe this.

Neither do I.

And if any of it’s true I think OP is the one that needs help - she sounds like an obsessed stalker - knows everything about the person and EVERY medical detail of the person and has taken loads of videos and photos of the person - either an obsessed stalker or a massive backstabber.

This person has already been reported. The DWP are quite capable of conducting surveillance on people if they need to, so have no need of the OP's little phone camera videos, which would not even be allowed to be used anyway. The whole OP reads like a script, a bad script.

Do you really need to ask this?

I worked with someone with autism. The extra money provided a cushion for budgeting which was difficult. For example if you have a sensory issue and can't tolerate cold you may spend more on heating. If you have issues with food you may end up spending more in order to manage a diet that allows you to eat. If you are vulnerable you may be unable to use public transport so need to use taxis which are more expensive. Some people with autism use sensory equipment to help with self regulation and some of these are expensive.

If you have an eating disorder it's often coupled with other challenges such as anxiety. You may be highly restrictive with food incurring a more expensive food shop. Therapy is not readily available in all areas so often people need to travel in order to receive support which incurs cost.

But ultimately both of these can put people out of work and education so why you think extra money wouldn't help shows a real ignorance of disability/illness and why pip is so essential for vulnerable people.

Yeah I'd do her a favour by letting her know you're an enemy in disguise so she can steer clear.

If she's already been reported there is no need for op to stalk and harass her supposed 'friend'. And I say that as a tax payer.

@tinyspinyhow do you truly know who does and doesn’t ‘deserve’ it? I agree it’s quite a harsh criteria, but we are where we are with that, unfortunately. I am a PIP assessor and am happy to advise on why the people you know have not received the help they deserve, if you’d like to send over a DM.

For the umpteenth time autism is a huge spectrum and it goes off extra care needs not diagnosis
My son is 15 so still gets DLA he has a diagnosis of autism he gets HRC and HRM as he is severely mentally impaired and has the cognitive ability of a 2 or 3 year old
Some people with autism may not get any award
As its all about how it impacts them.
My son can't speak at all ,will always need 1:1 supervision he's severely disabled.

I'm Brian, and so's my wife.

@feelinghopeless2025 of course it is not jealousy to be annoyed at people getting benefits fraudulently, the country is in an economic state and it is in everyone’s interests that only the people who need and deserve the payments get it , not people who blatantly lie and admit doing so . Like the OP has clarified in her latest post , like myself she knows that these people have lied or exaggerated the truth because they admit it themselves it is not just a case of seeing people walking their dog .