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To think this is nasty behaviour?

16 replies

ForUmberScroller · 26/05/2025 01:08

Lately, my 8-year-old DS has been coming home from MIL's upset. Some context, I am estranged from abusive ex and MIL has consistently failed to hold him to account. I have had to get SS involved several times as, of course, DS wants to visit his father and I would never stop my children from visiting their father. However, when DS has been over his father's, he has told me some frankly shocking things that terrify him. For example, his father told him that he's got knives buried in the back garden. Just one example. He has also physically assaulted DS, including strangling him, etc. I have stopped him visiting his father but am bearing the brunt of it because of course he misses his dad, even after all the abuse, and wants to spend time with him. I am now on the receiving end of shouting from DS because he says I am stopping him from visiting his father, what am I supposed to do! He's always been a lousy dad. Several occasions he has been promised to be picked up by dad after school, go swimming, etc., and I can count dozens of times he's been let down, waiting, sitting outside on the wall, waiting to be picked up, waiting for over an hour, before I tell him I don't think he's coming. It's really crushing my heart. Also, DS is ADHD and autistic. I should add, SS have no interest and just tell me to stop him from going over his dad's. It's like no one cares and I'm getting the worst of it.

MIL is married to ex's step father (ex never knew who his dad was, MIL won't tell him for one reason or another). Ex has 2 half siblings whose dad is ex's stepdad.

MIL does look after DS very well, picks him up from school, takes him out, etc., but that's where her grandmotherly qualities end. He goes over MIL's twice a week, and I really appreciate it because it allows me to work full time twice a week, plus I want him to have a relationship with his gran.

DS has told me a couple times that when he goes over MIL's, MIL's husband (grandpa, as he's learned to call him) will completely ignore him, doesn't pay any attention to him, makes him feel awkward when he walks into the room. I thought MIL's husband was weird/strange when I met him way before DS came along anyway, and the spouses of ex's half siblings agreed. I have sorted of brushed it under the rug until now. I have spoken to MIL about it but surprise, surprise, she refuses to acknowledge it. After giving birth to DS, one of ex's half siblings had a kid, 2 years younger, and the other sibling had another one shortly after.

MIL's husband is completely ignoring DS, doesn't even say hello to him. Meanwhile, he treats his 2 "true" grandchildren with admiration and love. Now, I can understand that DS is perhaps not this man's blood grandson (I can't really understand it because I would treat any stepchildren or step grandchildren as my own), but to blatantly ignore DS, make him feel awkward when he comes into rooms and pay attention to his cousins but pretend like DS isn't there, is really making my blood boil. It's pointless speaking to MIL about it.

DS is actually frightened of this man. He literally has not acknowledged him once in the 8 years he's been on this planet.

Just for further context, ex and his siblings all grew up together. It's not like this is a man she's married recently, they've been married 40+ years.
Yet, when DS was, for example, enjoying himself and having fun out the back garden, he and his cousins were playing tag, MIL's husband came out and told him to stop squealing like a little girl. Almost like the only ever response he's had from this strange man who otherwise has never interacted with him and refuses to do so, is to criticise and belittle an 8-year-old boy who hasn't done anything wrong.

I'm not just speaking from personal opinion, but DS is consistently telling me he's uncomfortable around this man, which I can understand. He hasn't spoken to him once in 8 years and showers his cousins with affection. It's like having a strange man in your house.

AIBU to think this is vile behaviour? It's not his fault and he's done nothing wrong, he shouldn't be treated with such contempt. Like I said, I could possibly understand that he's not his grandchild, but to actively single him out is cruel and nasty. None of my ex's family dare speak up about it. They're all making me feel like I'm going crazy.

OP posts:
MNpenisadvisor · 26/05/2025 01:18

Stop sending him there.

Gingernaut · 26/05/2025 01:20

Please stop sending him there

There are no grandparents rights enshrined in law and your ex has proven himself a lousy human being, let alone a father

Please try to stop pandering to an eight year old child, he clearly doesn't know what's good for him

NuffSaidSam · 26/05/2025 01:51

It's time to get some after-school childcare and stop him visiting them in this way. I would try and facilitate a relationship between MIL and DS if possible.

Growing up with this man as his father goes some way to explaining why your ex is the way he is.

Noshadelamp · 26/05/2025 01:54

I don't understand why you would allow your DS to constantly be affected by these people.

Just draw a line under it "no, sorry ds, I can't let you visit your dad or grandparents because they are not good for you. When you're older you can decide for yourself" and deal with the fallout knowing you are protecting your child from further trauma and harm.

Perhaps allow xmil to visit at your home or park, cafe etc without having to inflict the fil on your son.

You wouldn't let him eat poison or take drugs, it's the same thing.

WilfredsPies · 26/05/2025 02:07

You need to sit him down and tell him that it’s your job as his mum to keep him safe from harm, both physical and emotional, and that as a grown up, you can see where situations are harmful that someone his age won’t be able to see. You love him very much and that when he’s older, he can see who he likes and go where he likes, but until then, he has to trust that you are doing the best thing to keep him safe and secure.

I’d also contact Gingerbread, which is a charity for single parents. They can provide you with all sorts of support and advice and will be able to help you out. They’ve been around for decades https://www.gingerbread.org.uk

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GoldLash · 26/05/2025 07:15

These are horrible people you’re sending your DS to spend time with

Make alternative arrangements if you can

Endofyear · 26/05/2025 08:40

It's not like having a strange man in your house - you're sending your son to his house! Stop sending him there and tell ex mil why.

polarsystem · 26/05/2025 08:55

I don’t understand why you would allow your son to go to a home with a man present who has never even acknowledged him. I’d of said goodbye to the whole family the moment his mother tried to defend her son strangling your child. I woundnr be enabling a relationship between your son and his grandmother as, she is complicit in this to some degree by not calling out her husband for ignoring your son. Let him see his grandmother outside of the family environment.

EleanorReally · 26/05/2025 08:57

you must tell MIL about him not talking to your ds

EleanorReally · 26/05/2025 08:58

speak to your MIL and the strange man yourself

TorchSong · 26/05/2025 09:00

Endofyear · 26/05/2025 08:40

It's not like having a strange man in your house - you're sending your son to his house! Stop sending him there and tell ex mil why.

Yes, exactly. The only actions you can change here are yours. Stop complaining about your ex’s unpleasant stepfather, and don’t send your child there to encounter his unpleasantness. Make other childcare arrangements.

Mumofteenandtween · 26/05/2025 09:06

How did the step father treat your ex when he was growing up? If it was similar then it may go some way to explaining why your ex is so awful. After all - your ex had to live with that full time. Doesn’t excuse but does explain.

Keep your son away. If your ex MIL wants to see him then she needs to be a better grandmother and put herself out. But she was pretty obviously a crap mother (look at the results of her parenting!) so she probably won’t.

arcticpandas · 26/05/2025 09:09

Wow. Many things to untangle here. Well done for not letting him see his dad. If he really wants to see his son he can apply for supervised visits. Now it's time you do the same with Mil. She can not have him over to her house since her husband is treating ypur son badly. Ofcourse he's being unreasonable for treating a little boy like shit. But you are being unreasonable for

  1. Expecting fil to change-he has never taken to your DS.
  2. Sending your son into this hostile environnement.

You wrote:
SS have no interest and just tell me to stop him from going over his dad's. It's like no one cares and I'm getting the worst of it.

SS thinks that you are a capable mum so they do not need to intervene on your son's behalf. Please prove them right by putting a stop to your son going to Mil's house. Find wrap around care/school club. I can't believe you would subject your son to first his crazy father and then his crazy step gf. Just protect your child from these people.

BusyMum47 · 26/05/2025 11:18

@ForUmberScroller

Tough/inconvenient as this will be & despite your son thinking that he wants to see his dad, etc, you really need to protect this little boy from years of trauma/therapy & just cut all contact with the lot of them! It's the only way. You're effectively allowing all of this to happen to him. Not on purpose, obviously, but you're the only one who can stop it.

Greenqueen40 · 26/05/2025 11:31

I have voted yabu because you are continuing to send him! Stop it!

pimplebum · 26/05/2025 14:36

no way would I allow my child alone anywhere near a person who put their hands around his throat !

you are teaching him that people who love you, hurt and disappoint you , and mum thinks this is ok

stay strong , his dad sounds unhinged
put on the news, a dad has just burnt his wife and kids in their home , do you want to be next on the news?

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