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AIBU?

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To stop my son from visiting MIL?

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ThisDaringCritic · 25/05/2025 22:09

Lately, my 8-year-old DS has been coming home from MIL's upset. Some context, I am estranged from abusive ex and MIL has consistently failed to hold him to account. I have had to get SS involved several times as, of course, DS wants to visit his father and I would never stop my children from visiting their father. However, when DS has been over his father's, he has told me some frankly shocking things that terrify him. For example, his father told him that he's got knives buried in the back garden. Just one example. He has also physically assaulted DS, including strangling him, etc. I have stopped him visiting his father but am bearing the brunt of it because of course he misses his dad, even after all the abuse, and wants to spend time with him. I am now on the receiving end of shouting from DS because he says I am stopping him from visiting his father, what am I supposed to do! He's always been a lousy dad. Several occasions he has been promised to be picked up by dad after school, go swimming, etc., and I can count dozens of times he's been let down, waiting, sitting outside on the wall, waiting to be picked up, waiting for over an hour, before I tell him I don't think he's coming. It's really crushing my heart. Also, DS is ADHD and autistic. I should add, SS have no interest and just tell me to stop him from going over his dad's. It's like no one cares and I'm getting the worst of it.

MIL is married to ex's step father (ex never knew who his dad was, MIL won't tell him for one reason or another). Ex has 2 half siblings whose dad is ex's stepdad.

MIL does look after DS very well, picks him up from school, takes him out, etc., but that's where her grandmotherly qualities end. He goes over MIL's twice a week, and I really appreciate it because it allows me to work full time twice a week, plus I want him to have a relationship with his gran.

DS has told me a couple times that when he goes over MIL's, MIL's husband (grandpa, as he's learned to call him) will completely ignore him, doesn't pay any attention to him, makes him feel awkward when he walks into the room. I thought MIL's husband was weird/strange when I met him way before DS came along anyway, and the spouses of ex's half siblings agreed. I have sorted of brushed it under the rug until now. I have spoken to MIL about it but surprise, surprise, she refuses to acknowledge it. After giving birth to DS, one of ex's half siblings had a kid, 2 years younger, and the other sibling had another one shortly after.

MIL's husband is completely ignoring DS, doesn't even say hello to him. Meanwhile, he treats his 2 "true" grandchildren with admiration and love. Now, I can understand that DS is perhaps not this man's blood grandson (I can't really understand it because I would treat any stepchildren or step grandchildren as my own), but to blatantly ignore DS, make him feel awkward when he comes into rooms and pay attention to his cousins but pretend like DS isn't there, is really making my blood boil. It's pointless speaking to MIL about it.

DS is actually frightened of this man. He literally has not acknowledged him once in the 8 years he's been on this planet.

Just for further context, ex and his siblings all grew up together. It's not like this is a man she's married recently, they've been married 40+ years.

Yet, when DS was, for example, enjoying himself and having fun out the back garden, he and his cousins were playing tag, MIL's husband came out and told him to stop squealing like a little girl. Almost like the only ever response he's had from this strange man who otherwise has never interacted with him and refuses to do so, is to criticise and belittle an 8-year-old boy who hasn't done anything wrong.

I'm not just speaking from personal opinion, but DS is consistently telling me he's uncomfortable around this man, which I can understand. He hasn't spoken to him once in 8 years and showers his cousins with affection. It's like having a strange man in your house.

AIBU if I stop him going over there? It's not his fault and he's done nothing wrong, he shouldn't be treated with such contempt. Like I said, I could possibly understand that he's not his grandchild, but to actively single him out is cruel and nasty. None of my ex's family dare speak up about it.

OP posts:
AyeDeadOn · 25/05/2025 22:19

ThisDaringCritic · 25/05/2025 22:09

Lately, my 8-year-old DS has been coming home from MIL's upset. Some context, I am estranged from abusive ex and MIL has consistently failed to hold him to account. I have had to get SS involved several times as, of course, DS wants to visit his father and I would never stop my children from visiting their father. However, when DS has been over his father's, he has told me some frankly shocking things that terrify him. For example, his father told him that he's got knives buried in the back garden. Just one example. He has also physically assaulted DS, including strangling him, etc. I have stopped him visiting his father but am bearing the brunt of it because of course he misses his dad, even after all the abuse, and wants to spend time with him. I am now on the receiving end of shouting from DS because he says I am stopping him from visiting his father, what am I supposed to do! He's always been a lousy dad. Several occasions he has been promised to be picked up by dad after school, go swimming, etc., and I can count dozens of times he's been let down, waiting, sitting outside on the wall, waiting to be picked up, waiting for over an hour, before I tell him I don't think he's coming. It's really crushing my heart. Also, DS is ADHD and autistic. I should add, SS have no interest and just tell me to stop him from going over his dad's. It's like no one cares and I'm getting the worst of it.

MIL is married to ex's step father (ex never knew who his dad was, MIL won't tell him for one reason or another). Ex has 2 half siblings whose dad is ex's stepdad.

MIL does look after DS very well, picks him up from school, takes him out, etc., but that's where her grandmotherly qualities end. He goes over MIL's twice a week, and I really appreciate it because it allows me to work full time twice a week, plus I want him to have a relationship with his gran.

DS has told me a couple times that when he goes over MIL's, MIL's husband (grandpa, as he's learned to call him) will completely ignore him, doesn't pay any attention to him, makes him feel awkward when he walks into the room. I thought MIL's husband was weird/strange when I met him way before DS came along anyway, and the spouses of ex's half siblings agreed. I have sorted of brushed it under the rug until now. I have spoken to MIL about it but surprise, surprise, she refuses to acknowledge it. After giving birth to DS, one of ex's half siblings had a kid, 2 years younger, and the other sibling had another one shortly after.

MIL's husband is completely ignoring DS, doesn't even say hello to him. Meanwhile, he treats his 2 "true" grandchildren with admiration and love. Now, I can understand that DS is perhaps not this man's blood grandson (I can't really understand it because I would treat any stepchildren or step grandchildren as my own), but to blatantly ignore DS, make him feel awkward when he comes into rooms and pay attention to his cousins but pretend like DS isn't there, is really making my blood boil. It's pointless speaking to MIL about it.

DS is actually frightened of this man. He literally has not acknowledged him once in the 8 years he's been on this planet.

Just for further context, ex and his siblings all grew up together. It's not like this is a man she's married recently, they've been married 40+ years.

Yet, when DS was, for example, enjoying himself and having fun out the back garden, he and his cousins were playing tag, MIL's husband came out and told him to stop squealing like a little girl. Almost like the only ever response he's had from this strange man who otherwise has never interacted with him and refuses to do so, is to criticise and belittle an 8-year-old boy who hasn't done anything wrong.

I'm not just speaking from personal opinion, but DS is consistently telling me he's uncomfortable around this man, which I can understand. He hasn't spoken to him once in 8 years and showers his cousins with affection. It's like having a strange man in your house.

AIBU if I stop him going over there? It's not his fault and he's done nothing wrong, he shouldn't be treated with such contempt. Like I said, I could possibly understand that he's not his grandchild, but to actively single him out is cruel and nasty. None of my ex's family dare speak up about it.

Could MIL look after him in your home? I wouldn't be sending him to her house to be badly treated.

ThisDaringCritic · 25/05/2025 22:30

AyeDeadOn · 25/05/2025 22:19

Could MIL look after him in your home? I wouldn't be sending him to her house to be badly treated.

MIL and I aren't particularly close. She's already made her feelings known regarding the situation, that it's not what's happening. She would probably accuse me of making things up, as she has already DS. If I were in her situation, I would never, ever allow my grandchild to be treated in such a way. It's nasty. I don't know what planet she lives on. I understand it's her husband but it's not fair to be treating an innocent child this way, regardless of what may or may not have happened in the past (I assume something must have happened to make him act like this, what else?! But it's no excuse).

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AyeDeadOn · 25/05/2025 22:33

In that case, I'd find an alternative. Your son is old enough to know where he isn't wanted. He doesn't like it there. No way would I be making him go. If MIL wants a relationship with him she needs to ensure he is protected from abuse, even if its inconvenient for her. She can see him at the park, or whatever. If she chooses to.

TasWair · 25/05/2025 22:35

Oh come on OP. You know you can't expose your child to this treatment. It will have a long-lasting detrimental effect on him. There is no way on earth my child would be exposed to an environment like that more than once.

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 25/05/2025 22:38

I wouldn’t be sending my child into this situation. Organise alternative childcare then you can invite MIL to spend time with your son - on your terms and without the husband?

ThisDaringCritic · 25/05/2025 22:41

TasWair · 25/05/2025 22:35

Oh come on OP. You know you can't expose your child to this treatment. It will have a long-lasting detrimental effect on him. There is no way on earth my child would be exposed to an environment like that more than once.

To be honest, they've made me feel like I'm going crazy. I've not really got any family of my own. My mum died a while back and my dad married my SM who has driven a wedge between us, so I don't really see them too often.

Ex's family are all pretending like it's normal!

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ThisDaringCritic · 25/05/2025 22:44

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 25/05/2025 22:38

I wouldn’t be sending my child into this situation. Organise alternative childcare then you can invite MIL to spend time with your son - on your terms and without the husband?

MIL won't do this. It's like their entire life is a facade. She deludes herself nothing is wrong, that her husband is DS's grandfather, despite him clearly singling DS out as different.

When I have passed her husband, on two occasions, I have said hello to him and he's walked straight past me like I wasn't even there.

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Temporaryname158 · 25/05/2025 22:48

Have you reported your son’s dad to the police regarding strangling him. If not, you must.

id stop him going round if he’s treated like that

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 25/05/2025 22:54

AyeDeadOn · 25/05/2025 22:19

Could MIL look after him in your home? I wouldn't be sending him to her house to be badly treated.

Why did you quote the entire OP?
Especially since yours was the first answer and is so short.

Calliopespa · 25/05/2025 23:05

AyeDeadOn · 25/05/2025 22:19

Could MIL look after him in your home? I wouldn't be sending him to her house to be badly treated.

That’s what I was going to say.

Total honesty is the best policy here op.

I’d tell MIL you value her input and she is an important part of DS’s family life given how things are with his Dad. But say you can’t send him when he’s being made to feel like this. Ask if she could come and spend time with him at yours. I would reiterate that you want and value her relationship in his life ( no need to mention the childcare bit specifically!)

Calliopespa · 25/05/2025 23:07

Calliopespa · 25/05/2025 23:05

That’s what I was going to say.

Total honesty is the best policy here op.

I’d tell MIL you value her input and she is an important part of DS’s family life given how things are with his Dad. But say you can’t send him when he’s being made to feel like this. Ask if she could come and spend time with him at yours. I would reiterate that you want and value her relationship in his life ( no need to mention the childcare bit specifically!)

Oh sorry I posted too soon.

In that case I’m not sure op.

Wombatboymom · 25/05/2025 23:11

If your MIL isn’t dealing with the fact that her husband is treating your DS badly, then she isn’t looking after him properly. You can’t send your DS somewhere where he isn’t looked after properly.

What does DS want - does he want to see MIL? If yes, then facilitate the relationship, but you should be there when they see each other. You need to sort another childcare arrangement though - someone who will actually look after DS. Sounds like he’s been through a lot so you need to really think about who childcare is as it sounds like he needs a bit of TLC.

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 26/05/2025 08:14

ThisDaringCritic · 25/05/2025 22:44

MIL won't do this. It's like their entire life is a facade. She deludes herself nothing is wrong, that her husband is DS's grandfather, despite him clearly singling DS out as different.

When I have passed her husband, on two occasions, I have said hello to him and he's walked straight past me like I wasn't even there.

I’d be stating to her quite clearly that as your are uneasy with the way her husband makes your son feel - who cares if she wants to delude herself - you won’t be allowing him to spend time there.

you don’t have a leg to stand on until you stop relying on her for childcare though, sorry. That’s the first step.

ArtfulAzureUser · 26/05/2025 10:10

ThisDaringCritic · 25/05/2025 22:44

MIL won't do this. It's like their entire life is a facade. She deludes herself nothing is wrong, that her husband is DS's grandfather, despite him clearly singling DS out as different.

When I have passed her husband, on two occasions, I have said hello to him and he's walked straight past me like I wasn't even there.

I think his behaviour is bizarre, to be honest. I gather you don't rely on childcare too much, you just appreciate the twice a week you can work full time. I would just remove him from that environment and work part time on those two days. Your son is lucky to have you.

ButteredRadish · 26/05/2025 10:46

This is heartbreaking. Keep DS away from all of them and allow them to take you to court. If he does find the £10k to take you to court, the judge will order a CAFCASS report which will involve this step granddad being spoken to and questioned as well as the MIL! If he doesn’t do it, it will be reported back to the judge who won’t be happy with any of them on that side and will favour you!

Screamingabdabz · 26/05/2025 10:50

@AyeDeadOn jeez why did you have to quote the whole op again? We’d just read it! 😠

Starlight7080 · 26/05/2025 10:53

I couldn't read it all but it's pretty obvious you need to keep your child away from your ex and his family .

Screamingabdabz · 26/05/2025 10:54

Op - I would protect your little boy from all of this - strangling? Treated like an outsider? I would pay for childcare and move on to a new life without them in it. Your boy needs to grow up without violence and abuse.

CatsWhiskerz · 26/05/2025 10:56

Sorry but I'd invite her to look after your child in your home, tell her straight if she asks what the problem is, and if she kicks off then just say no sorry that's not going to work - your poor child is being mentally abused by this excuse for a man. As for the father - not a
Chance would he be allowed to seee the child unless it was with professional support in the room
I think you said he has ADHD, you can get some benefits to help support your child, perhaps something that can go towards care after school? Or help you with costs so you don't have to work so many hours?

FuckityFux · 26/05/2025 11:20

Your son doesn’t need to have a relationship with this woman! If she doesn’t protect your DS, she doesn’t get to see him.

Stop twisting yourself in knots to enable your son to have access to shitty grandparents and cousins.

They are not essential at all and longer term, he’s better off without any of them.

We have no parents (all dead) and no other relatives in this country so DS had to rely on making friends. It’s fine and a lot less bothersome.

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